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Poop Dogg - 27 Jul 2003 23:57 GMT
I came home to find a vase knocked over and the artificial flowers
all over the floor.  There can only be one culprit...kitty!  I
picked her up and showed her the vase and yelled BAD BAD BAD! at
her.  The trouble is it's hard to stay mad at her because she's
so cute.
Michelle Fulton - 28 Jul 2003 00:17 GMT
> I came home to find a vase knocked over and the artificial flowers
> all over the floor.  There can only be one culprit...kitty!  I
> picked her up and showed her the vase and yelled BAD BAD BAD! at
> her.

I came home on Friday to find my kitten had apparently been
swinging on the blinds :-o  Oh, I hope I can get her trained
before they are all destroyed!  Trouble is you can't really
teach them not to do things unless you catch them doing it.

> The trouble is it's hard to stay mad at her because she's
> so cute.

It is, isn't it :-)

M
Ivor Jones - 28 Jul 2003 00:26 GMT
> > I came home to find a vase knocked over and the artificial flowers
> > all over the floor.  There can only be one culprit...kitty!  I
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>
> M

Don't you know the first law of the cat world..?

*** Cats can do as they like..! ***

Thinking about it, that's the *only* law ;-))

Ivor
Gee - 28 Jul 2003 02:06 GMT
> I came home to find a vase knocked over and the artificial flowers
> all over the floor.  There can only be one culprit...kitty!  I
> picked her up and showed her the vase and yelled BAD BAD BAD! at
> her.

Imagine someone you love walks in your house,you go happily to greet them,
but he/she picks you up and starts yelling at you in foreign language. You
will have no idea what are they talking about. So no, you will never teach
any animal this way.

We don;t speak animal language. Nor they speak English. So training animals
includes creating associations. Positive ones are naturally better then
negative ones. What you just done with the above yelling is a negative
association. And furthermore, not with the broken vase, but with YOU coming
home. The poor kitty has just come out to see you happily and you are
yelling at her. You do this another few times, and she'll be running away
when you walk in, not come out and greet you. Do you see what I'm saying.
She doesn;t know the vase/couch/curtains/whateva/... is important to us, or
that she has in fact done something wrong.

The only time you can yell is if you catch them doing something you don;t
like, and yell while they are still doing it. Let animal walk away, and it's
too late. My Shadow has done 3 wees on the new sofa, before I cought her.
Yes it gave me a helluva job cleaning it, and finding the right stuff to
kill the smell, but I couldn;t possibly yell at her 3 hours after she's done
it. She wouldn;t understand why.But the second I cought her doing it, I
yelled like there is no tomorrow, while claping my hands, so she took off. I
picked her up and put her in the litter tray, and immidiately changed my
tone of voice and gave her reassuring scratches. She hasn;t done it since,
and our relationship has not changed.

Gee
Poop Dogg - 28 Jul 2003 02:58 GMT
"Gee" wrote in message ...
>The only time you can yell is if you catch them doing something you don;t
>like, and yell while they are still doing it. Let animal walk away, and it's
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>tone of voice and gave her reassuring scratches. She hasn;t done it since,
>and our relationship has not changed.

I've heard that animals don't understand when you discipline them after
the fact.  Still, my instinct was to tell her what a bad kitty she was.
I've been discipling her in the act and it does seem to be working.
She jumped up on the kitchen counter a few times and I yelled NO NO NO!
and squirted her.  She seems to have learned but today she was
thinking about climbing up while I was preparing food she liked and I
yelled NO! and that was sufficient.  And I used to lock her up when
I ate but several times now she's stayed on my lap while I'm eating,
occasionally moving towards the plate, but a NO! always gets her to
sit back down.  She is becoming a very wonderful kitten.  She wants
to be around me all day long, sitting on me or next to me.  I still
lock her up at night with her food-water, litterbox, and kitty bed.
kmonk - 14 Aug 2003 13:23 GMT
Today I got my american express bill and found a $1000 charge for catnip
from petsmart... so I did the exact same thing, and she sent me a written
apology!

> I came home to find a vase knocked over and the artificial flowers
> all over the floor.  There can only be one culprit...kitty!  I
> picked her up and showed her the vase and yelled BAD BAD BAD! at
> her.  The trouble is it's hard to stay mad at her because she's
> so cute.
 
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