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Magic Mood Jeep? - 18 Jul 2003 16:07 GMT http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window Man's Daughter Apparently Witnessed Incident POSTED: 1:04 a.m. EDT July 18, 2003 LIVONIA, Mich. -- Police are calling a Michigan father's actions a horrific act of animal cruelty.
Police said the man threw his child's pet kitten out a car window while driving on a freeway, Detroit's WDIV-TV reported.
The man's wife and daughter were apparently in the vehicle with him when he threw the animal out onto the side of a busy interstate, located just outside of Detroit.
A witness driving behind the man said he was going at least 70 mph when the animal was thrown out the window.
"I observed that it was something full of fur. Then when it hit the ground and I saw it roll ... and it was moving and in a lot of pain. I realized it was a baby kitten," said Francisco Solano, who witnessed the incident.
Solano immediately contacted police to report the man's license plate number, Detroit's WDIV-TV reported.
"The investigator said (the father's) only remorse was that he got caught, but he really didn't have any remorse for what occurred," said Lt. Ben McDermott of the Livonia (Mich.) Police Department.
The father apparently told police he had to dispose of the kitten because the apartment complex where they live does not allow pets.
Police are reportedly pursuing felony charges against the man. If convicted of the charges, he could face up to four years in prison.
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*~*SooZy*~* - 18 Jul 2003 16:27 GMT > http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html > Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Police are reportedly pursuing felony charges against the man. If convicted > of the charges, he could face up to four years in prison. awwww that's terrible! if people really have to get rid of their kittens in a hurry there are so many things you can do... rescue homes, police station, etc or even give them to a friend to rehome!!!!!!!!! or box them up and leave them on someone else's door stop if you are that cruel, anything other than doing such a thing! poor little mites :-(
Graham - 18 Jul 2003 19:02 GMT > http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html > Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Police are reportedly pursuing felony charges against the man. If convicted > of the charges, he could face up to four years in prison. Hang the bastard!
Graham
Kimmo Sundqvist - 18 Jul 2003 22:04 GMT > Hang the bastard! Before that, let him follow the kitten. Then we hang what's left of him.
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> > http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html > > Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Graham Yes, this made the national news. Graham, I'm with you. Let's take up a collection.
Cat Protector - 18 Jul 2003 23:33 GMT This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in my car. I hope the cat survived and is recovering well. The kitten did not deserve this.
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> http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html > Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Police are reportedly pursuing felony charges against the man. If convicted > of the charges, he could face up to four years in prison. m l briggs - 19 Jul 2003 01:04 GMT I wonder if anyone even bothered to find out? MLB
> This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in > my car. I hope the cat survived and is recovering well. The kitten did not > deserve this. Shazza - 19 Jul 2003 06:38 GMT Sad to say, there is also human scum who leave newborn babies in trash cans.
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>This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in >my car. I hope the cat survived and is recovering well. The kitten did not >deserve this. roago - 19 Jul 2003 07:43 GMT > Sad to say, there is also human scum who leave newborn babies in trash cans. Yeah, but there are human scum in these newsgroups who value cat lives over human lives, so don't expect them to give a sh.t about that.
Cat Protector - 19 Jul 2003 17:58 GMT So, according the you, those who care about cats lives are scum? I guess you must really hate those in animal rescue right?
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> Yeah, but there are human scum in these newsgroups who value cat lives > over human lives, so don't expect them to give a sh.t about that. MikeTheBike9 - 28 Jul 2003 04:02 GMT I don't even like cats, and I value them over humans in a certain way- I feel more pity for a helpless animal subjected to unspeakable cruelty at human hands than I do for a human being, for the reason that animals are defenseless and dependent upon humans, as a result of human activity impacting on them historically. There are scores of organizations which will help any human who is in distress, but there is scant little help for an animal in need.Usually the only mercy such an animal can find is if it is lucky enough to have a sympathetic human happen upon it and takes it's plight to heart. People often say "how can there be a God when such and such is allowed to happen to innocent people" - well, if you read the Holy Bible, it says in plain language that humans deserve nothing better than the things that happen to them- even defenseless and innocent humans. we live in an ugly, remorseless, inexorable world, and if we were using the gifts that nature or God provided us, we would be reducing suffering, as humans, for all earth creatures. The ugly truth is, humans make the world a more painful place overall. No wonder God is not happy with us- we don't deserve it. This isn't my opinion, this is the words of The Bible. Mike.
> > Sad to say, there is also human scum who leave newborn babies in trash cans. > > Yeah, but there are human scum in these newsgroups who value cat lives > over human lives, so don't expect them to give a sh.t about that. Dawn - 19 Jul 2003 07:47 GMT > This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in > my car. When I read terrorist-style posts like yours, it makes me want to go through a whole litter of kittens off a bridge just to piss you off.
Patrick - 19 Jul 2003 14:19 GMT >> This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going >> 70MPH in my car. > > When I read terrorist-style posts like yours, it makes me want to go > through a whole litter of kittens off a bridge just to piss you off. Yes well Dawn were all saying things that I'm sure that we don't mean. But one wonders how it can be that peoples will do such things to a dumb creature. Maybe we wonder if we could possibly do such a thing ourselves, we say to ourselves NO NO NO, and we are very angry.
Best wishes to us all, Patrick
tigressnospam@gtf.org - 19 Jul 2003 20:19 GMT >> This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in >> my car. > > When I read terrorist-style posts like yours, it makes me want to go > through a whole litter of kittens off a bridge just to piss you off. So much stupid in one little sentence...
Terrorist style posts? *snicker*
This just reminds me of when people put nazi-this and that for whatever they dislike, except now terrorism is used instead. It's the new hot word to use to insult some one. Used by people who can't think of any better arguement besides stick the latest "evil word" in hopes that the high emotions that word brings will cloud people's judgement against the person being labeled without them actually thinking about what is being argued. It was a weak strategy when people were using Hitler and nazi, and it's still a weak strategy now that terrorist has taken those words' place.
Oh, and no, just cause tehy want to harm the person who showed himself to be cold and heartless doesn't mean they dislike humans, just that particular one. Honestly, I'm not going to cry for him if something bad happens to him. I'd probably snicker instead. Maybe if he hadn't proved himself to be pretty worthless I'd feel sorry for him.
But...
Just cause he's human doesn't mean he instantly has any worth. You gotta do stuff that is worthy before you can be of any worth, and throwing kittens out of a window most definitely does not give some one any value at all, in fact it tends to take away from value they might have had.
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Joe User - 21 Jul 2003 23:23 GMT > > This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in > > my car. > > When I read terrorist-style posts like yours, it makes me want to go > through a whole litter of kittens off a bridge just to piss you off. What exactly is "terroristic", the animal abuser is a criminal, the pushishment should fit the crime.
He tosses kittens out window, we throw criminal out window, harsh justice, but justice none the less.
Liberals like you demanding criminals be treated as people is why crime is running rampet, those who do the crime, do not do the time.
Yohn - 22 Jul 2003 00:04 GMT > He tosses kittens out window, we throw criminal out window, harsh justice, > but justice none the less. This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. How the hell do you propose to throw an adult out of a car window? And how is that "justice" since being thrown out of a car window will have a much different effect on a person than on a young cat? You are an imbecile.
> Liberals like you demanding criminals be treated as people is why crime is > running rampet, those who do the crime, do not do the time. What the f.ck are you talking about? You propose some silly-a.s "punishment" that sounds more like a teenager's daydream than a realistic solution for a problem, and when somebody attempts to clarify your thinking you spew this garbage about liberals and criminals not even being people. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you retarded? Do you have a mental illness? I certainly hope SOMETHING is wrong with you, because you do not sound like you've got both oars in the water, if you know what I mean.
Graham - 22 Jul 2003 00:35 GMT > > He tosses kittens out window, we throw criminal out window, harsh justice, > > but justice none the less. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > you, because you do not sound like you've got both oars in the water, if > you know what I mean. Firstly before I fully respond....do you endorse this behaviour or in anyway agree with throwing the kitten out a fast moving vehicle?
Graham
Kimmo Sundqvist - 23 Jul 2003 12:27 GMT > This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. How the hell do you > propose to throw an adult out of a car window? And how is that > "justice" since being thrown out of a car window will have a much > different effect on a person than on a young cat? You are an imbecile. Thinking persons here... I think the effect on a person and a cat is about the same. Both will end up severely crippled or die. Maybe he proposed that a car drives fast on a closed road that is set up for the punishment, and the person being punished is pushed out of the car's door, or a window big enough. Therefore the car must also be big enough.
But wait a minute... two boys jumped out of a train here, fleeing from a ticket inspector. The train wasn't moving as fast as 70mph, but more like 45..55mph. I'm not good at remembering all the details, but AFAIK one boy survived with no injuries, and the other hit a pole in mid-air and died.
-Kimmo S.
MikeTheBike9 - 28 Jul 2003 03:56 GMT I also believe the man deserves to be defenestrated from a moving vehicle. If only we had justice in this country, people would pay for their horrible violence, and eventually, through the process of elimination, we would have a much less violent populace. Mike.
> This is disgusting. I'd like to throw this guy out the window going 70MPH in > my car. I hope the cat survived and is recovering well. The kitten did not [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > http://www.geocities.com/the_magic_mood_jeep/ > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Chris Jones - 28 Jul 2003 04:28 GMT how would we have a less violent society. the only ones willing to do the act on the people who committed the original crimes are the ones who have a stomach for such violence in the first place.
> I also believe the man deserves to be defenestrated from a moving vehicle. > If only we had justice in this country, people would pay for their horrible [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > > http://www.geocities.com/the_magic_mood_jeep/ > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Patrick - 28 Jul 2003 07:27 GMT > how would we have a less violent society. the only ones willing to > do the act on the people who committed the original crimes are the > ones who have a stomach for such violence in the first place. I agree with what you say above 'Chris', but could not the perpetrator be made to feel some kind of mild physical pain (a pin stuck in thiere hand once a week) to make sure they remember what suffering is. The mild pain would surely be sufficient, in that being so cowardly, the mild pain would be something horrible to them.
>> I also believe the man deserves to be defenestrated from a moving >> vehicle. If only we had justice in this country, people would pay [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/2003 MikeTheBike9 - 28 Jul 2003 13:47 GMT Because, believe it or not, there are people who could easily kill a human in retaliation for some awful act, but would not harm any living creature without some type of reason. Mike.
> > how would we have a less violent society. the only ones willing to > > do the act on the people who committed the original crimes are the [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/2003 Mogie - 31 Jul 2003 00:44 GMT Yeap. If the perp would get done to them what they did that would be a fair punishment.
> Because, believe it or not, there are people who could easily kill a human > in retaliation for some awful act, but would not harm any living creature [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/2003 nobody@junk.comcast.net - 21 Jul 2003 20:24 GMT >http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2341718/detail.html >Police: Father Throws Pet Kitten Out Window >Man's Daughter Apparently Witnessed Incident >POSTED: 1:04 a.m. EDT July 18, 2003 >LIVONIA, Mich. -- Police are calling a Michigan father's actions a >horrific act of animal cruelty.
>Police said the man threw his child's pet kitten out a car window while >driving on a freeway, Detroit's WDIV-TV reported.
>The man's wife and daughter were apparently in the vehicle with him when >he threw the animal out onto the side of a busy interstate, located just >outside of Detroit.
>A witness driving behind the man said he was going at least 70 mph when >the animal was thrown out the window. So, once he's convicted, he should be thrown out of a vehicle moving 70 mph. No community service, not even prison time - just the same experience he put his victim through.
Alan
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