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Andy Martin - 29 Mar 2004 13:25 GMT
Are there any UK breeders specialising in large domestic cats such as the
Chausie?
Ivor Jones - 29 Mar 2004 14:51 GMT
> Are there any UK breeders specialising in large domestic cats such as the
> Chausie?

Without meaning to sound disrespectful, is there any reason you are
interested in a cat such as this..? I volunteer at a Cats Protection
shelter and we have cats that have been there for months that nobody seems
interested in, people are always coming in asking for kittens but the
older moggies are just as capable of giving lots of love :-)

There are too many strays and other unwanted cats in the world to breed
any more, IMHO.

Ivor
Andy Martin - 29 Mar 2004 16:29 GMT
We already have 7 rescue cats!
My mum is a cats protection volunteer!

> > Are there any UK breeders specialising in large domestic cats such as
> the
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> Ivor
Ivor Jones - 29 Mar 2004 18:07 GMT
> > > Are there any UK breeders specialising in large domestic cats such as
> > the
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> We already have 7 rescue cats!
> My mum is a cats protection volunteer!

Ah, well enough said ;-))

Ivor
Andy Martin - 29 Mar 2004 19:23 GMT
Our family are feline crazy!

I would love a big cat but realise this isn't practical.............but
maine coons and chausies offer a nice alternative to something like a lynx!
Maine coons are 2 a penny to find but Chausies...different story..anyone
know if they are available in the UK?

> > > > Are there any UK breeders specialising in large domestic cats such
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> Ivor
Sue - 31 Mar 2004 18:44 GMT
Chausies need a DWAA license in the UK!

Maine coons can get to similar sizes & so can neutered British shorthair
Males - why not ask their breed clubs or pop along to a cat show. The GCCF
site has a list of clubs & shows. Most clubs have rescue lists.

Sue

> Our family are feline crazy!
>
> I would love a big cat but realise this isn't practical.............but
> maine coons and chausies offer a nice alternative to something like a lynx!
> Maine coons are 2 a penny to find but Chausies...different story..anyone
> know if they are available in the UK?
Andy Martin - 01 Apr 2004 10:48 GMT
What are the requirments for a DWAA licence?
How does one go about getting one?

> Chausies need a DWAA license in the UK!
>
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> > Maine coons are 2 a penny to find but Chausies...different story..anyone
> > know if they are available in the UK?
Tim - 01 Apr 2004 16:45 GMT
> What are the requirments for a DWAA licence?
> How does one go about getting one?

Ok, now I am not 100% on this so please anyone correct me if I am wrong... A
dangerous wild animals license I believe is obtained local council offices
but you might want to start your search
here...(www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/gwd/wildact.htm)  To obtain
this licence you have to satisfy a MAFF vet that the area in which the
animal is to be housed is suitable and SECURE. Dependant on what you are
going to buy, be it a Raccoon or a Tiger, the accomodation is going to cost
quite alot of money, these guys know what they are looking for and a cage
made out of fence panels and chicken wire is not going to suffice! I do not
have a clue what the fees involved for applying and renewing a lisence
are(believe they are not cheap). You may also run into problems regarding
local byelaws. Eg planning permission, councils may also have byelaws
prohibiting certain animals etc etc.
IMHO getting a gerbil can be testing enough for some people.... (true have
seen it :o)  ) you really need to ask yourself why you want to go down this
road and  try and put yourself off by thinking about all the negatives...
for example an extreme case of the thing getting out and seriously harming
someone... then finding out you are not insured... can you actually get
third party insurance (?) etc etc
I don't keep any animals subject to a DWA lisense but do keep some that at
best can be considered ill tempered, even with these I have to be careful
about my practice as the harming of a person is unacceptable to me... even
if that person is me and are aware of the risks!

Good luck,
Tim
Sue - 01 Apr 2004 17:05 GMT
For a cat as a pet you'd be very unlikely to get one but you would require
planning permission ( ?200-300) & then an annual fee ( ?138 from my council)
The enclosure would have to be secure with safety compartments - think zoo!
A normal studhouse is about a thousand pounds but stud boys are allowed to
leave their enclosure & often get neutered & move into the house at a fairly
young age so you'd have to think bigger - think of a 12x10 chatlet with
sofa,TV & central heating with a 12x12 run as a minimum. ( c. ?5,000?)

What about holidays? Catteries are not allowed to take these unless they
have DWAA facilities - I used to but the demand died out.

I've met pet chaussies in the USA - I'd either get a tabby or red British or
leave my details with rescues as willing to adopt a "monster"
Sue

> What are the requirments for a DWAA licence?
> How does one go about getting one?
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> > > Maine coons are 2 a penny to find but Chausies...different story..anyone
> > > know if they are available in the UK?
Andy Martin - 01 Apr 2004 17:39 GMT
Seems strange doesnt it..any idiot can go and get a killer in the form of a
bulldog.rottweiler whatever is en vogue this month....yet a cat lover who
has an interest in larger cats cannot keep a medium sized cat without a
licence?
Surely Chausies are not as dangerous as a Rottweiler?

> For a cat as a pet you'd be very unlikely to get one but you would require
> planning permission ( ?200-300) & then an annual fee ( ?138 from my council)
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> story..anyone
> > > > know if they are available in the UK?
Sue - 01 Apr 2004 18:28 GMT
Most of the Rotties I know are big softies. All the bulldogs are great soppy
fools! I think the difficulty with non domestic cats is how to
control/confine them. Dogs can be controlled by fences.
You also have to consider the "collector" who doesn't get things right who
spoils it for those who look after their charges properly.
I'd love a serval, I have the space, no near neighbours, could enclose half
an acre to the required standard and have plenty of experience with cats
from domestic to lions & puma.
I don't keep a serval - & I do know where I could get one (legally ;o)-
because I don't feel I have enough time to devote to a totally caged cat for
possibly 20 years.

BTW the same restrictions apply to any small non domestic cat as well as the
larger species. You also need a DWAA licence for non threatening canines
like Fenecs.

I have looked after dogs, cats & other animals professionally for over 15
years & I have one set of bite scars - from a Maine Coon!

Sue

> Seems strange doesnt it..any idiot can go and get a killer in the form of a
> bulldog.rottweiler whatever is en vogue this month....yet a cat lover who
> has an interest in larger cats cannot keep a medium sized cat without a
> licence?
> Surely Chausies are not as dangerous as a Rottweiler?
Tim - 01 Apr 2004 22:45 GMT
> Seems strange doesnt it..any idiot can go and get a killer in the form of a
> bulldog.rottweiler whatever

To see some of the futility of this act just go to the link I posted and
look at the differences in some of the animals on there! I was not joking
when I said raccoons!!! While I appreciate that pretty much all of the
animals on there are worthy of the inclusion, you don't have to go far to
find, in this country, some fool flying an imprinted Marshals eagle in the
local park, or a 30 python inhabiting the house with the kids. (Please,
those responsible owners, I don't mean you! :o)   ) And these don't need a
DWA.

Tim

> > For a cat as a pet you'd be very unlikely to get one but you would require
> > planning permission ( ?200-300) & then an annual fee ( ?138 from my
> council)
> > The enclosure would have to be secure with safety compartments - think

> > > What are the requirments for a DWAA licence?
> > > How does one go about getting one?
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> > story..anyone
> > > > > know if they are available in the UK?
 
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