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I'm on the phone - Isis goes nutzo.
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Mike - 15 Mar 2004 17:22 GMT I don't know what is going on.
In the mornings, when I have my phone headset on, and am talking to a client or a vendor, I walk around the house sometimes. Maybe I am making coffee or maybe I am just walking.
When I do this Isis goes wacko-nutzo. She runs around. She does kitty-pounce-attacks on me. She zooms all over the place and wants to play chase me. She looks at me like she is in some psychotic catnip induced crazy mind warp.
When I put the phone down and go back to my computer then everything settles down.
I have no explanation for this.
Thank you for listening.
Mike in Illinois
rpl - 15 Mar 2004 17:49 GMT > I don't know what is going on. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mike in Illinois
:) Cats aren't the only ones... whenever I see/hear somebody talking on a cellphone in a public place, I really, really want to go stand beside them and start singing or join in the conversation in an off-the-wall manner.
pat
m. L. Briggs - 15 Mar 2004 19:38 GMT >I don't know what is going on. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Mike in Illinois She thinks you are talking to her and that you are inviting her to play. MLB
Mike - 16 Mar 2004 02:23 GMT This may be. This may well be. I live alone and don't usually talk to myself to the degree I talk on a phone.
But still, there is an element of weirdness going on that transcends a simple, though logical, explanation. Her schizoid frenzy and total wackaroonie behaviour are almost, perhaps, a resentment that I am yacking away at "nobody" when I should be doing what she thinks I should be doing.
Perhaps I am overanalyzing. Or, perhaps I have finally lost my marbles which is what she has always wanted.
I don't know anymore.
Mike in Illinois
> She thinks you are talking to her and that you are inviting her to > play. MLB KC Wong - 16 Mar 2004 02:41 GMT > This may be. This may well be. I live alone and don't usually talk to myself > to the degree I talk on a phone. Perhaps you can do some experiments...
Make a matrix of these elements: 1. Wearing / Not wearing the headset 2. Walking around / Sit 3. Talking / Remain silent
and see how Isis reacts. Then you know what makes Isis thinks you want to play :)
m. L. Briggs - 16 Mar 2004 07:19 GMT >This may be. This may well be. I live alone and don't usually talk to myself >to the degree I talk on a phone. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> She thinks you are talking to her and that you are inviting her to >> play. MLB HaHa - maybe she just wants to play with the marbles! MLB
Sabrina's Mom - 16 Mar 2004 17:50 GMT >This may be. This may well be. I live alone and don't usually talk to myself >to the degree I talk on a phone. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I don't know anymore. Whereas Sabrina leaves me alone while on the phone (other than to jump in my lap if I'm sitting, but that is her usual behavior). My dog, Chloe, will bark when I'm on the phone.
I've got a friend w/ a bird (parrot of sorts) who freaks out and screams whenever someone is on the phone. My uncle's bird will sit and just repeat over and over "Hello" when you are on the phone.
I think it is common behavior in animals. I can't explain the reason "why". My guess is an attention thing. Youa re paying attention to someone/something else.
If I get on the computer, or try to read a newspaper/magizine, Sabrina will jump in my lap and get in my way.
I think its all similar behavior.
Mike - 16 Mar 2004 18:27 GMT Ok. As long as I'm in this 12-step Cat Recovery Program I might as well go all the way.
About three years ago my friend sold me a very nice used couch for $50.00. It was in a law firm and he snagged it.
The material on the couch is a tweedy kind of cloth, very diggable by a cat. You can guess the result. Isis saw this baby and shredded both ends of the arms. Shredded.
I decided I liked the couch so I went out and bought a slip cover. Now here is what happens.
When I open the door to my library room where the couch is Isis zooms right in there and jumps on the slip covered couch. Then she does scritch-scratch. She knows very very well this is ***Forbidden Behaviour***.
SHE LOOKS ME RIGHT IN THE EYE WHILE SHE DOES SCRITCH-SCRATCH.
I make a move like I'm going to grab her and she zooms out lickety-split.
SHE JUST HAS TO GET THOSE FEW LICKS IN.
She will not touch a scratching post. Oh, no. Only my nice tweedy couch will do.
Maybe this is another instance of wanting attention. I think it is quite simple. She is saying, "I'M BEING BAD RIGHT NOW. BAD BAD BAD."
Mike in Illinois
> Whereas Sabrina leaves me alone while on the phone (other than to jump > in my lap if I'm sitting, but that is her usual behavior). My dog, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I think its all similar behavior. m. L. Briggs - 16 Mar 2004 18:43 GMT >Ok. As long as I'm in this 12-step Cat Recovery Program I might as well go >all the way. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >Mike: Buy a roll of sheet plastic. Cut a couch-size piece and throw it over the couch when it is not in use. Cats usually do not like plastic. Use it for as long as it takes for her to forget the scratching behavior. MLB
Mike - 17 Mar 2004 04:19 GMT I may just try this! Frankly, I'd like to leave my library room door open. What a treat for me! I can get some painter's plastic from somewhere. I'll put in on the couch. Once she gets over the shock of it all <-: I could have a couch again!!
Thanks!
> >Mike: Buy a roll of sheet plastic. Cut a couch-size piece and throw it over the couch > when it is not in use. Cats usually do not like plastic. Use it for > as long as it takes for her to forget the scratching behavior. MLB Sabrina's Mom - 16 Mar 2004 19:14 GMT >Ok. As long as I'm in this 12-step Cat Recovery Program I might as well go >all the way. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Mike in Illinois LOL... :-) Yes, I've seen that behavior before. Chloe (my dog) will do certain things like that. Look you square in the eye and grab for something she's not supposed to have. Even after you say "no" or "drop it"...
The behavior is so, "2 yr old" its laughable. Its the spiteful attention getting. My little sister would get this evil look in her eye before doing something like that when she was 2 yrs old.
On the other hand, you have it good. When my ex and I were together we had 2 cats, Rascal and Squeaky. Rascal didn't like the ex much. To the point where she would get up on the bed where he was sleeping and pee on top of him. (she had good premonition.... :-) Now that was spiteful!
kilikini - 17 Mar 2004 02:02 GMT (snip)
> LOL... :-) Yes, I've seen that behavior before. Chloe (my dog) > will do certain things like that. Look you square in the eye and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and pee on top of him. (she had good premonition.... :-) Now > that was spiteful! That's hysterical! LOL. Wish my cat had that foresight......hee hee hee. kili
Mike - 17 Mar 2004 04:17 GMT LOLOLOL. Look, let me tell you, from a guy's point of view that message would be very very clear. LOLOL.
Mike in Illinois
> On the other hand, you have it good. When my ex and I were together > we had 2 cats, Rascal and Squeaky. Rascal didn't like the ex much. > To the point where she would get up on the bed where he was sleeping > and pee on top of him. (she had good premonition.... :-) Now > that was spiteful! JP Hobbs - 19 Mar 2004 14:03 GMT Wilson does the scratching bit while staring at me its open defiance, but like Mike's cat,when I open my mouth to tell him, *screech* at him he's off like a speeding bullet, he knows its a no-no and he doesn't need me to tell him, he just likes to stir me up. Jean.P.
> >Ok. As long as I'm in this 12-step Cat Recovery Program I might as well go > >all the way. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > and pee on top of him. (she had good premonition.... :-) Now > that was spiteful! Diana - 15 Mar 2004 20:33 GMT Mike at mike@dot.com wrote on3/15/04 11:22 AM:
> I don't know what is going on. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mike in Illinois You're welcome. :)
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studio - 16 Mar 2004 03:42 GMT When ever I have a conversation with another person, whether in person or on the phone....my kitty wants to be apart of the conversation. Wouldn't you? How would you feel if your husband/wife/"significant other" didn't want to hear what you had to say while talking to another person? Wait.....don't answer that. ;) But kitty makes it clear what she thinks. She simply wants to be recognised as being "there".
Vicki Harding - 29 Mar 2004 21:30 GMT Mike..
Consider this... Isis has no clue that there is a third party you may be talking to... no clue what-so-ever. And this is not inclusive to Isis only. I can't think of any animal that could know this. When Isis hears your voice he thinks you're talking to him, of course! How does he respond when you are being verbal with him without your headset? It's sorta like reading the paper and having your cat want to lay all over it... because your eyes are pretty much fixed in a specific area, a cat will want to put itself in your line of vision for the attention .
If you're walking around and talking out loud, of course Isis thinks you're playing with and giving him your undivided attention. Just an observation of mine since living the past 7 years with two cats of my own (which I've managed to spoil the heck out of all by myself!) When you take your headset off, I'll assume you've also quit talking. Now Isis thinks playtime is over and things go back to normal. See, it's not so hard to think like a cat!
Peace,
Tori
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>I don't know what is going on. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Mike in Illinois Diana - 30 Mar 2004 01:35 GMT Vicki Harding at tandt@sonic.net wrote on3/29/04 3:30 PM:
> Mike.. > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> >> Mike in Illinois Yeah, Tori, I would agree with your hypothesis. But (and please don't take offense here -- none intended) someone has woefully neglected your education in Egyptian mythology.
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Vicki Harding - 05 Apr 2004 08:28 GMT Ok, Diana... now that I've just spent nearly an hour surfing through your portal (check your guestbook for my comments and purrrrrs!) I'd love to be educated in Egyptian mythology (no offense taken ;). I must have been reading Ann Rice instead of paying attention to the Ancient Ones! What'd I miss?
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>Yeah, Tori, I would agree with your hypothesis. But (and please don't take >offense here -- none intended) someone has woefully neglected your education [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Portal To My Pages >http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/r/drdrive/ Diana - 05 Apr 2004 20:31 GMT Vicki Harding at tandt@sonic.net wrote on4/5/04 3:28 AM:
> Ok, Diana... now that I've just spent nearly an hour surfing through your > portal (check your guestbook for my comments and purrrrrs!) I'd love to be > educated in Egyptian mythology (no offense taken ;). I must have been > reading Ann Rice instead of paying attention to the Ancient Ones! What'd I > miss? Hope you weren't disappointed not to find any reference to Egyptian mythology on my site. Maybe I need a mythology page. Hey, I think I like that idea! Anyway, I was referring to your calling her royal highness Isis (cat of Mike in Illinois) "he". The original Isis was the nature goddess of ancient Egypt. Her worship spread even to the Roman Empire, where it was one of the chief religions until about the 6th century. She married her brother, Osiris, who I believe may have been the first deity to to be resurrected after his death. Anne Rice really ought to write about her!
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Kimlan Lou-Hing - 06 Apr 2004 13:24 GMT Anne Rice has made references to Isis and Osiris a couple times in her books. I can't remember whih ones right now though. Unless of course you meant that she needs to write whole books about them...*Smiles*
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> Vicki Harding at tandt@sonic.net wrote on4/5/04 3:28 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > brother, Osiris, who I believe may have been the first deity to to be > resurrected after his death. Anne Rice really ought to write about her! Diana - 06 Apr 2004 21:53 GMT Kimlan Lou-Hing at kimlan@imlagnoli.plus.com wrote on4/6/04 8:24 AM:
> Anne Rice has made references to Isis and Osiris a couple times in her > books. I can't remember whih ones right now though. Unless of course you > meant that she needs to write whole books about them...*Smiles* I think "Servant of the Bones" or that other one about the mummy probably referenced them. But, yeah, I think she could write a really great story using Isis or Osiris's POV. (Are we OT, or what!?)
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countertroll - 07 Apr 2004 00:33 GMT > Kimlan Lou-Hing at kimlan@imlagnoli.plus.com wrote on4/6/04 8:24 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > referenced them. But, yeah, I think she could write a really great story > using Isis or Osiris's POV. (Are we OT, or what!?) Isis must die, people in third world countries are starving
Mars Project - 06 Apr 2004 22:59 GMT > Anne Rice has made references to Isis and Osiris a couple times in her > books. I can't remember whih ones right now though. Unless of course you > meant that she needs to write whole books about them...*Smiles* King Tut and Imhotep called and said shut up about their Egyptian Mythology. If you don't know what you are saying give the rest of us a break and SHUT UP!! :0
Vicki Harding - 07 Apr 2004 21:41 GMT I wasn't disappointed at all. I thoroughly enjoyed your pages, even without the Egyptian myths. But I do like the idea as well. I believe that in Egyptian times cats were worshipped in some way. I gotta laugh having picked the wrong gender for Isis! As I was typing that message, the thought did cross my mind which gender a name like Isis might be. I guess it just sounded like a male name. Shame on me for "assuming". I look forward to the Egyptian Myths and Feline Deities addition to your site! LOL
Vicki
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>Vicki Harding at tandt@sonic.net wrote on4/5/04 3:28 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Portal To My Pages >http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/r/drdrive/ Diana - 08 Apr 2004 02:03 GMT Vicki Harding at tandt@sonic.net wrote on4/7/04 4:41 PM:
> I wasn't disappointed at all. I thoroughly enjoyed your pages, even without > the Egyptian myths. But I do like the idea as well. I believe that in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sounded like a male name. Shame on me for "assuming". I look forward to > the Egyptian Myths and Feline Deities addition to your site! LOL Yeah, well, these days it's easy to get it wrong making any assumptions at all concerning gender! BTW, the Egyptian cat goddess was named Bast. Cats were verrrry big in ancient Egypt.
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Vicki Harding - 09 Apr 2004 17:13 GMT Yeah, well lucky you! At least you're queen of something. Around here, my two felines alternate between themselves for that position. As I, on the other hand, can only sit and watch with amusement. Maybe if I whisper "Bast" to them, like a mantra, they'll come to regard me as their feline goddess ... NNNAAAAHHHH! It'll never happen! One can only dream...
p.s. I wonder what results Mike has had with Isis? Mike, can you tell us?
Diana wrote in message ...
>Yeah, well, these days it's easy to get it wrong making any assumptions at >all concerning gender! BTW, the Egyptian cat goddess was named Bast. Cats [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Portal To My Pages >http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/r/drdrive/
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