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Diabetes???
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Dawn - 10 Feb 2004 04:10 GMT Finally got Toast's "biopsy" back and the vet seems to think she has diabetes. She had high steriod levels in her liver which is either caused by the animal being on steriods (which we don't believe she was) or by diabetes.
I will make an appointment with my vet tomorrow for the follow up tests to see if it is really diabetes. Has anyone dealt with a diabetic cat? I work full time will she be safe home alone?
Not to mention the problems of feeding her perscription food. As I have posted before Blade is supposed to be on perscription food for his Ph levels (his is low where most cats have problems with high, so he should be on food to up his levels, but my other cats cannot be exposed to the food as it could mess with their Ph levels). I found a food that seemed to agree with his system yet was safe for my other cats, knowing that if he starts getting infections again I will have to switch him back (to a food that is over $10.00 for a two pound bag).
They also have suggested diet food for Jazz as she is over weight, but that wouldn't be good for Pounce (our resident Anorexic) who is always slightly under weight.
I let my cats all self feed (which gives Pounce access to food whenever he wants) but I am guessing that won't be ok for Toast?
The big question is how did she know when I walked into the shelter that I was just the kind of "Sucker" she needed to adopt???
Thanks, Dawn and Pounce, Blade, Jazz, & Toast
~*Connie*~ - 10 Feb 2004 11:47 GMT Ive had a diabetic cat for years. Its very easy to maintain. She is on a special food, but she eats the cat chow, and jack eats her food.. *rolls eyes*
I can't get in deals at the moment as I have GOT to go to work, but it is very manageable.. I'll write a bit more later, but feel free to write any other specific questions you have.
> Finally got Toast's "biopsy" back and the vet seems to think she has > diabetes. She had high steriod levels in her liver which is either caused [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Thanks, > Dawn and Pounce, Blade, Jazz, & Toast Dawn - 10 Feb 2004 15:41 GMT It's good just to hear that you are going to work. I found a forum for people with diabetic cats and it seems to be a full time job! Toast is only about a year old and when I adopted her I took that commitment seriously but till they cats start paying the electric bill I have to work.
> Ive had a diabetic cat for years. Its very easy to maintain. She is on a > special food, but she eats the cat chow, and jack eats her food.. *rolls [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > very manageable.. I'll write a bit more later, but feel free to write any > other specific questions you have. NobodyMan - 11 Feb 2004 01:12 GMT >> Ive had a diabetic cat for years. Its very easy to maintain. She is on a >> special food, but she eats the cat chow, and jack eats her food.. *rolls [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> very manageable.. I'll write a bit more later, but feel free to write any >> other specific questions you have.
>It's good just to hear that you are going to work. I found a forum >for people with diabetic cats and it seems to be a full time job! >Toast is only about a year old and when I adopted her I took that >commitment seriously but till they cats start paying the electric bill >I have to work. From what I've read, a diabetic cat can cause you some pretty steep up-front costs to get the problem in hand, then the prices decline. It will still be more than what you spend on a non-diabetic cat.
I had a diabetic cat that I had to put to sleep. When diagnosed his sugar was through the roof and several vets (I priced around that day) quoted me some hefty fees to get it under control. Combine that with the fact that I work very strange, rotating-hour shifts and I just couldn't be there to check his sugar and monitor his eating/drinking/whatever habits that I would need to monitor.
After a lengthy discussions with my vet, I decided to put him to sleep. He wouldn't live a quality life with me as I couldn't properly take care of him, and his chances of being adopted were very minute, as he was 15 y/o, diabetic, and VERY much a one-person cat (he ran away from everybody but me). It was very nerve-wracking to put him down, but it was the right thing to do given the circumstances. It's been four months since I lost him, and even though I have a new kitten it's still just not the same in the apartment.
If you feel you can afford keeping your diabetic kitty, and can provide Toast a quality life while monitoring him as necessary, then great! I hope you can and wish you luck in it.
Dawn - 11 Feb 2004 06:23 GMT I am sorry about your loss. And am going to have a lot to consider depending on the vets findings.
> >> Ive had a diabetic cat for years. Its very easy to maintain. She is on a > >> special food, but she eats the cat chow, and jack eats her food.. *rolls [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > provide Toast a quality life while monitoring him as necessary, then > great! I hope you can and wish you luck in it. ~*Connie*~ - 11 Feb 2004 10:16 GMT > It's good just to hear that you are going to work. I found a forum > for people with diabetic cats and it seems to be a full time job! > Toast is only about a year old and when I adopted her I took that > commitment seriously but till they cats start paying the electric bill > I have to work. Yup. Ive been told Ive been very lucky with Em, however at the moment it doesn't feel that way as Im having a hard time regulating her sugars.. but.. on with the story.
I found out several years ago actually that she was diabetic, because she was limping. I don't remember the details, but I do know the vet kept her for a couple of days to make sure the insulin levels were what was necessary to maintain her. We put her on humulin L.. which is actually a human insulin. It is relatively inexpensive, and we were told to give one shot with breakfast, and one shot with dinner. Now that I work in a vet clinic, Ive been having her checked out more frequently, and I found her sugars are very high, so we increased from four units, to five, to six, to seven, then switched her over to PZI.. a very expensive insulin.. but one proven to have longer staying power.. and despite increasing the insulin, her sugars remain high. (300 to 400 range normal bg's should be just over 100).. so we are starting to think she's insulin resistant. I just went up to seven units of PZI, and will test her sugars over the weekend.. I also have access to an herbalist, and we are going to try some herbs for her that are known to help diabetics. I do her testing at home, with a human glucometer. With her insulin needle, I prick a vessel in her ear, and get the blood that way. I do it on a Saturday or Sunday when Im home for the day.. it only takes a few minutes, and they recommend four or five readings through out the day to get a curve, to see how she's handling her insulin. I also only do it once a month, or once every couple. Once she finally finds a way to keep regular sugars, I probably wouldn't test her for several months.
Typical days are very easy for her. she eats, she gets injected while she eats, she goes and spends her day as she wants. She doesn't get a whole heck of a lot of exercise despite having four other cats in the house, but hey.. she's happy.. that's what matters.
HOWEVER.. diabetes in such a young cat is kinda rare. Last summer we had a kitten come into the clinic who was diabetic, and the new owners surrendered it, and one of the vets adopted it. Unfortunately his sugars couldn't be controlled at all, and late last fall he started having seizures and we had to put him to sleep. I don't say this to scare you, but so you can be aware, and maybe talk to your doctor about the fact that he is so young..
taking on the responsibilities of a diabetic animal sounds like a lot, but on the whole it really is pretty manageable.
Dawn - 11 Feb 2004 19:15 GMT Thank you, Connie, for always taking the time to answer questions or just give support! I am waiting now to hear from the vet and then I will go and meet with him about our options. They run a daycare for animals with special needs or who are medically fragile. I know it could be expensive but until we get her levels where they need to be I might enroll her there.
I don't say this to scare you, but so you can be
> aware, and maybe talk to your doctor about the fact that he is so young.. > > taking on the responsibilities of a diabetic animal sounds like a lot, but > on the whole it really is pretty manageable. kittykat - 11 Feb 2004 19:14 GMT I have a diabetic cat he is seven it is hard work but after a period where we only feed him twice aday which did not suit him and his lisestyle we now freefeed and even through his sugers are not 100% he is doing ok. I work allday and so my cat is on a low dose of insulin to make sure that his sugers do not drop to quickly, feel free to email with any queries i am in the UK and it is not that expensive
Marion
> Finally got Toast's "biopsy" back and the vet seems to think she has > diabetes. She had high steriod levels in her liver which is either caused [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Thanks, > Dawn and Pounce, Blade, Jazz, & Toast M - 12 Mar 2004 18:00 GMT Just to add (I have used google groups to find out info but never yet to give info). Rachael (nearly 16 yrs old) was diagnosed with diabetes less than a year ago. At first I was worried about the shots, but it turns out to be very easy. It was worth the expense to get started because she is doing very well, and giving shots is a breeze. She eats only Purina DM food (canned and dry) but likes it quite well. It's a bit more expensive than Science Diet. She's an only cat and I'm single and work full-time. In other words, it's worthwhile and not particularly difficult to manage.
> I have a diabetic cat he is seven it is hard work but after a period where > we only feed him twice aday which did not suit him and his lisestyle we now [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Thanks, > > Dawn and Pounce, Blade, Jazz, & Toast JoJo - 13 Mar 2004 00:02 GMT I had a dog that had diabetes, it was not hard to take care of her. I had to monitor her urine and make sure she ate after her shots. She did well for a year and a half. Eventually a combination of old age and liver problems started to take it's tool.
Make sure you keep sugar on hand in the chance she goes into shock. Mine had one diabetic seizure because her sugar got too low.
I've seen cats and dogs live a long healthy life with diabete. (I worked for a vet years ago). The needle is so small they don't even notice it. Kudo's to you for not being scared off!! :)
> Just to add (I have used google groups to find out info but never yet > to give info). Rachael (nearly 16 yrs old) was diagnosed with [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > > Thanks, > > > Dawn and Pounce, Blade, Jazz, & Toast
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