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Cat Forum / General Topics / November 2003help selecting a kitten ?
I am looking for a kitten to be male, all black with a short coat. I would like a lighter colored set of eyes and have no idea of what type would fall into this category. I like a Bombay but they have gold eyes....any help ? > I am looking for a kitten to be male, all black with a short coat. I would > like a lighter colored set of eyes and have no idea of what type would fall > into this category. I like a Bombay but they have gold eyes....any help ? I realize that I am not giving you the help you requested. However, has it occurred to you that you are really setting yourself up for disappointment? Personality and temperament are *so* much more important than physical characteristics, yet you have only mentioned looks (somewhat like people who only look for beauty and fail to see inner beauty). If you would go to an animal shelter, you would find many, many beautiful cats and you could also see how their personalities fit with yours -- and you would be saving the life of a cat that might otherwise be euthanized. Please consider it. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") I have thought about going to the pound but I need a short haired cat and not sure if I would find one at the pound. Are short haired kittens easy to notice ? > > I am looking for a kitten to be male, all black with a short coat. I > would [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") If it's fluffy & puffy, it's a long haired - if its just plain fuzzy, it's a short-haired.  SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? http://www.geocities.com/the_magic_mood_jeep/ http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > I have thought about going to the pound but I need a short haired cat and > not sure if I would find one at the pound. Are short haired kittens easy to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") >I have thought about going to the pound but I need a short haired cat and >not sure if I would find one at the pound. Are short haired kittens easy to [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >Why do you "need" a shorthaired black cat? What are you planning for it? MLB > I have thought about going to the pound but I need a short haired cat and > not sure if I would find one at the pound. Are short haired kittens easy to > notice ? You will easily be able to find short-haired cats or kittens at the shelter. Ask shelter personnel to help you identify those that are short-haired. MaryL > I have thought about going to the pound but I need a short haired cat and > not sure if I would find one at the pound. Are short haired kittens easy to > notice ? Good idea to get short hair. My last cat was the sweetest cat but also long-haired. She was so pathetic as her fur would get all matted and we would have to have her shaved at least twice a year so she always looked rather stupid. And I can't even begin to describe the mountains of hair she deposited every where she slept. My new kitten is short-haired and it's such an improvement. But personality is probably the most important trait in a cat, though there is nothing wrong with narrowing it down based on appearance. We went to the animal shelter knowing we wanted a short-hair and my father wanted an orange kitten, but was prepared to make an exception. As it turned out, they had 3-4 orange kittens and we handled each one briefly before deciding; as it turned out, we picked the absolute sweetest kitten on earth! Of 4 cats we've owned over the years, this is the nicest one yet. > Good idea to get short hair. My last cat was the sweetest cat but > also long-haired. She was so pathetic as her fur would get all > matted and we would have to have her shaved at least twice a year > so she always looked rather stupid. And I can't even begin to > describe the mountains of hair she deposited every where she > slept. My new kitten is short-haired and it's such an improvement. Daily brushing would take care of most of this. In addition, a change to better quality food might help. I have had long-haired cats (in fact, Duffy is long-haired) and have never had a problem like you describe. MaryL I have several longhaired cats. A Turkish Angora, 2 angora mixes (rescued) and a Siberian. None of these have the matting problem. That is most common with the cats that have a heavy down layer to their coat such as Persian and Himilayians. I don't have to groom them at all. The Siberian is like a Maine Coon as far as his coat is concerned. Check them out at the link below. SignatureJoe http://www.jwpitt.com/cats.htm Cat Rescue http://www.animalrescuefoundation.com God created the cat so man could have the pleasure of petting the tiger > > Good idea to get short hair. My last cat was the sweetest cat but > > also long-haired. She was so pathetic as her fur would get all [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MaryL > I have several longhaired cats. A Turkish Angora, 2 angora mixes (rescued) > and a Siberian. None of these have the matting problem. That is most common > with the cats that have a heavy down layer to their coat such as Persian and > Himilayians. I don't have to groom them at all. The Siberian is like a Maine > Coon as far as his coat is concerned. Check them out at the link below. My cat was part-persian but she had a regular cat face. As for the suggestion that I comb the cat daily, well, I am NOT going to do that! Anyway, my cat LOVED it after she got shaved. There was a distinct change in her behavior, as if she was on purr overdrive. I really think long hair is quite uncomfortable for cats, especially when they live in the desert (as mine did). > I realize that I am not giving you the help you requested. However, has it > occurred to you that you are really setting yourself up for disappointment? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") You are forgetting in our disposable lifestyle that cats/kittens in pounds are considered used merchandise of garbage quality and paying for special breeds new from a cattery mill is better just like buying a brand new car with the color and make you want. Its all about the looks. Sad but true. Short haired would be easier because of shedding. The shorter the hair, the less hair I have to clean up !!! > > I realize that I am not giving you the help you requested. However, has > it [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Sad but true. > Short haired would be easier because of shedding. The shorter the hair, > the less hair I have to clean up !!! Well you are very wrong there. I have a Maine Coon and a Siamese cross cat at home. The Siamese has much shorter hair then the coon but the siamese sheds way more then the Maine coon. I brush them both every day or every other day and the siamese sheds much more hair. >> Short haired would be easier because of shedding. The shorter the hair, >> the less hair I have to clean up !!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >coon. I brush them both every day or every other day and the siamese sheds >much more hair. try feeding a better quality food. My Siamese was a terrible shedder until I switched to Science Diet. My present cat eats Iams and she has a good coat. Be sure to brush or comb them daily to help prevent hairballs. mLB > >> Short haired would be easier because of shedding. The shorter the hair, > >> the less hair I have to clean up !!! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > has a good coat. Be sure to brush or comb them daily to help prevent > hairballs. mLB My cats get Iams canned and Natural balance dry. Also they get steak chicken veal lamb or whatever other food I am eating at night. >You are forgetting in our disposable lifestyle that cats/kittens in pounds >are considered used merchandise of garbage quality and paying for special >breeds new from a cattery mill is better just like buying a brand new car >with the color and make you want. Its all about the looks. > >Sad but true. Not everyone who owns purebreds is shallow, uncaring, and undedicated to thier pets. I have two neutered male Bengals, purchased from a responsible breeder and they are the joys of my life. I also work with rescue for both cats and dogs. However, I was looking for some specific traits in my pets, and thus chose to go the purebred route, where breeds have some predictability. I was looking for intelligent, affectionate, outgoing cats who would be easily trained. Bengals fit all those traits as a breed, and it's only a huge bonus that they are breathtakingly beautiful cats. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid Judgmental, aren't we, Hugo? I have a purebred Persian (a champion, no less) that I chose for the Persian's particular traits, temperament and personality. Moreover, I wanted a healthy, well-adjusted cat. And that is what I received for my money. It was *my* choice to do so, and I think that you have unmitigated gall to presume that *your* notions of cat acquisition are somehow superior - they are not: they are simply your opinions, and rather narrow, thoughtless ones at that! And FWIW, I contacted eight shelters in the New Jersey area who showed Persians for adoption. The one who replied sent me a lunatic application, and the other seven - after repeated telephone calls and emails - were apparently too busy to contact me even after a month. I think it's pathetic that these shelters *still* advertise for donations and moan about how they have a hard time finding people willing to adopt from a pound. So if you like shelter cats, fine adopt another, and stop trying to belittle others who don't care to share your values! And for the original poster - if that is what you want, go for it. Don't be talked into adopting a cat that you will be unhappy with just to satisfy the ego of a poster like this. Google to search the various breeds, buy CAT FANCY magazine and read the breeders ads. A purebred cat or kitten from a respected breeder is almost always going to be a healthy, well adjusted cat. If you want a companion for the next 12 to 18 years, choose your cat carefully! SignatureCordially, Sonam Dasara > > I realize that I am not giving you the help you requested. However, has > it [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Sad but true. > Judgmental, aren't we, Hugo? > > I have a purebred Persian (a champion, no less) that I chose for the >Persian's particular traits, temperament and personality. Moreover, I wanted >a healthy, well-adjusted cat. And that is what I received for my money. Okay, you're the first extreme Persian owner I've had a chance to ask this, so I just have to. Please don't be offended, but I have wondered this ever since I saw my first show Persian. Why on earth choose a deformed cat? You say you wanted a healthy cat -- why pick a breed that is structurally unsound due to the extreme malformation of their skulls? Why choose a breed that can't breathe properly, eat properly, and whose eyes run constantly due to the malformation of their tear ducts? What draws you to them? What is attractive about them? I'm not flaming you, or trying to stir the pot -- I just genuinely want to understand. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid What draws you to them? > What is attractive about them? Probably the same things that drew your mother to you and let her find you attractive even though you are clearly a loud-mouthed idiot with no social skills whatsoever - not to mention, maladjusted, and deformed in your own, cute way! > I'm not flaming you, or trying to stir the pot -- Of *course* you're not! That's why I kill-filed you! Bye! > Probably the same things that drew your mother to you and let her find > you attractive even though you are clearly a loud-mouthed idiot with no > social skills whatsoever - not to mention, maladjusted, and deformed in your > own, cute way! That was out of line. Orchid's question was a valid one and was presented in a very polite way. You seem to be the one lacking social skills. > Of *course* you're not! That's why I kill-filed you! Bye! Your loss, obviously. Orchid is one of the most knowledgeable and nice folks in this group. You, on the other hand, don't seem to have much to contribute, other than insults. Bye. SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > That was out of line. Orchid's question was a valid one and was > presented in a very polite way. Really, Victor? Your notion of "polite" is quite removed from what normal people consider "polite". Nor was it "valid" by any stretch of the imagination. You seem to be the one lacking social > skills. I see. So you are the arbiter of social skills for the group. When were you elected to this post? > > Of *course* you're not! That's why I kill-filed you! Bye! > > Your loss, obviously. Orchid is one of the most knowledgeable and nice > folks in this group. Fascinating. I think she is a bitch with a bad attitude with little or nothing to contribute except her personal rant about Persians. Am I clear, Victor? > Am I clear, Victor? *plonk* SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Probably the same things that drew your mother to you and let her find >> you attractive even though you are clearly a loud-mouthed idiot with no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >presented in a very polite way. You seem to be the one lacking social >skills. I even said 'Please don't be offended'. *sigh* I tried. Why won't anyone ever answer that question? >> Of *course* you're not! That's why I kill-filed you! Bye! > >Your loss, obviously. Orchid is one of the most knowledgeable and nice >folks in this group. *blush* Thank you, Victor. I was hoping that I really hadn't come off as a jerk -- that it really was the OP's over-reaction. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >> Judgmental, aren't we, Hugo? >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage >Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid Orchid, I agree it was wrong for the breeders to do this. However, those little kittens have lovely spirits and need love too. What we must do is convince the breeders to change their ways -- not take it out on defenseless babies. One of my neighbors had a Himalayan who had trouble breathing through her flat nose -- but, oh! what a purr machine. MLB > must do is convince the breeders to change their ways -- not take it > out on defenseless babies. I think that you are sort of moving to a rational response in terms of the cats, but not at all in terms of adult social interaction with other humans. As far as I am concerned, you need to consider that: (1) we think that our Persians are perfect just the way they are; and (2) it is not only self-righteous, but arrogant on your - or anyone's - part to think that their notions are *so* superior that they *need* to educate others to think just the way that they do. It reminds me of the sad little people who knock at my door pushing bible tracts into my hand wanting to "save" me, totally oblivious that I have a spiritual tradition thousands of years older than theirs... This is a very wide universe, with a lot of room for people of varied beliefs to dwell in, and the sooner that you learn to accept that other people not only do not want to be just like you - but do not even find some of *your* cherished beliefs attractive, then the sooner you will find that people like me will not hold you accountable for what you have said and how you said it. And I would be remiss to point out that of all of the registered purebreds in the USA and Europe, Persians outnumber their closest competitor by a 20 to 1 ratio - over 36,000 purebred, registered Persians... and who know how many unregistered... So let me be clear: neither I, nor the other 36,000 + Persian owners give a damn about your opinion, nor your rather repugnant desire to "educate" us. And when my little baby falls asleep with her paw wrapped around my head, she doesn't either! Sonam Dasara >> must do is convince the breeders to change their ways -- not take it >> out on defenseless babies. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Sonam Dasara Thankfully in the USA we have the right to our own opinions and are not afraid to express them. I love and appreciate all cats and wish the lines would continue as nature intended them MLB >Orchid, I agree it was wrong for the breeders to do this. However, >those little kittens have lovely spirits and need love too. What we >must do is convince the breeders to change their ways -- not take it >out on defenseless babies. One of my neighbors had a Himalayan who had >trouble breathing through her flat nose -- but, oh! what a purr >machine. MLB Oh, I don't think that anything should be taken out on the cats themselves -- Persians and others of that type can be some of the sweetest kitties. However, I do desperately want to understand the breeder/owner motivation behind those malformed skulls. I feel the same way about English Bulldogs, Pekes, etc in the dog world. Mainly I want to understand why we have gone away from the doll-faced cats to the Peke-faced cats -- the doll-faces seem to be much healthier in a structural sense. And. honestly, I'd love it if someone could explain just what they find attractive or appealing about the Peke faces. My cats are champion Bengals (alter class), so anyone could tell you that this isn't about hatred towards purebreds -- I'm probably one of the most valiant defenders of the purebred right to exist you'll find on these groups. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid > > Judgmental, aren't we, Hugo? > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > due to the malformation of their tear ducts? What draws you to them? > What is attractive about them? Cause its all about the bling bling and the flash. > Judgmental, aren't we, Hugo? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > they are not: they are simply your opinions, and rather narrow, thoughtless > ones at that! Keep your deformed cat, I choose to get mines for free. yes my notions are superior to yours. infact I am superior to you. MaryL, or someone purporting to be MaryL says... > > I am looking for a kitten to be male, all black with a short coat. I > would [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > see how their personalities fit with yours -- and you would be saving the > life of a cat that might otherwise be euthanized. Please consider it. I have to agree. We rescued two kittens from a shelter. We went in with ideas about colours and shapes and sizes but ended up being chosen by the kittens. They have turned out to be wonderful. http://www.ajh.ca/kitten_archives.htm SignatureAndy aNO-SPAM-AT-ALL@ajh.ca |
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