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Introducing Female Cats

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Dori Neu - 20 Nov 2009 05:29 GMT
What is a safe way to introduce female cats? We adopted Kali a couple of
months ago. She is kind of a strange cat who wants nothing to do with my
husband and does not seem to want much affection although she seems to have
bonded with me a little bit. Last week one of my sons had to rehome his
kitty due to unforseen circumstances ... we took her in. Midnight is a total
lap cat love sponge ... She is delightful.

The problem ... Kali hisses at Midnight and Midnight who was very sweet and
content when she arrived has now gotten frightened. We are keeping them
completely separated until we figure out how to introduce them safely. I
have been rubbing both their ears with rescue remedy and dabbing on a little
vanilla on each one in preparation for the introduction. We are allowing
them to be on either side of a safety fence for a while each day to
hopefully feel a little more secure with each other's presence. We plan to
put them both on leashes for the introduction so they can't do damage to
each other.

The funny part of this is that both Kitties get along with our two bunnies
Cissy and Munk. Is there any possibility that they can eventually learn to
be together in the same room and learn to tolerate each other even if they
do not bond?

I really need some advice here. Thanks in advance

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Bill Graham - 20 Nov 2009 08:10 GMT
> What is a safe way to introduce female cats? We adopted Kali a couple of
> months ago. She is kind of a strange cat who wants nothing to do with my
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> I really need some advice here. Thanks in advance

This is typical with female cats.....They seldom get along, unless they are
kittens, or, at least one is a kitten. The problem is, they are very
territorial, and the one you got first is threatened by the newcomer. I have
five cats and three are females. I have found that it just takes time. The
newcomer will gradually learn how to fit in. Try to not let any one of them
exclusively occupy one section of the house.....Make them share the food and
sleeping quarters, by picking them up and carrying them there if necessary.
Let them know that they must share the house equally, and they will learn to
do so. They may even develop a kind of guarded friendship, but it will never
be as close as two males would establish.
Spider - 20 Nov 2009 13:26 GMT
> What is a safe way to introduce female cats? We adopted Kali a couple of
> months ago. She is kind of a strange cat who wants nothing to do with my
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>
> I really need some advice here. Thanks in advance

Bill is right; female cats are always the most difficult to house together.
They are *so* territorial, perhaps because they naturally need to protect
their kittens from predators and also to safeguard that territory's food
supply.  On the other hand, social groups of female wild cats will cooperate
with each other over the nursing and guarding of their kittens.  Alas, you
have no kittens ... no, don't even go there! :~)

Because of these natural behaviours and my own experience (I have 2 female
cats), I am inclined to disagree with Bill over the territories in your
home.  My cats each have indoor territories that are entirely their own.
Because my Cheetah (like your Kali) is more reticent and nervous, I
vigorously defend her territory for her.  I'll do the same for Panther,
although it's not usually necessary.   This has made Cheetah feel much safer
and more confident.  I also make sure that Panther doesn't steal all the
toys.  Depending on the mental attitude of the cat at any specific moment, a
soft toy may either represent a kitten or (more usually) a prey item, so
they are significant possessions.

The fact that Kali is starting to bond with you, suggests to me that you
dish out the cat food, and this is a very important lever.  Whenever you put
their food down, say "this is Kali's dinner .. this is Midnight's dinner".
In this way, you are reinforcing Kali's place as top cat (or alpha female).
She will appreciate this, because she's clearly feeling displaced at the
moment.   The fact that you're already annointing them with scents (other
than their own) is great and shows you have good insight.  Keep up with this
and, perhaps, add catnip to the scent menu, especially when you introduce
them.  When you introduce them, close all the doors and windows to that
room.  However, because they then can't escape each other, make sure you
have a few boxes or other hides that they can use as bolt holes if
aggression mounts.   I have mixed feelings about the use of leads during
introduction: on the face of it, it seems a good safety ploy; however, it
may down grade any progress you make because it's so unnatural.  The cats
need to work it out themselves.  It will, as Bill says, take time.

Another thing you can do is praise the cats whenever they meet but don't
spit or fight; similarly praise them for simply ignoring each other.   Also,
when you're at home moving from room to room, and the cats follow you, make
sure you always push the door wide open so that there's no opportunity for
conflict at the threshold.  Cats *hate* confrontation and find it
threatening, so anything you can do to prevent confined head-to-head contact
or aggressive staring behaviour, the better.

And to answer your final question, they will eventually tolerate each other
but there will always be spats and disputes.  Life will become easier, and
your job as arbitrator will become less stressful, but you'll never be
redundant!

Do let us know how you get on.
Spider
Dori Neu - 21 Nov 2009 06:04 GMT
> What is a safe way to introduce female cats? We adopted Kali a couple of
> months ago. She is kind of a strange cat who wants nothing to do with my
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> I really need some advice here. Thanks in advance

Thank you Bill and Spider for all the helpful suggestions. I often don't
know the best way to approach a situation and sometimes make the wrong
decision ... but practice helps and hearing the experience of others in very
valuable.

I have mixed feelings about several things also ... Each of the cats has a
bedroom in our home that they can claim as their own ... This seems to be
the only answer right now. I am petrified that the new cat, Midnight, might
be injured. Kali acts like she is ready to eat her alive any time she sees
her. I have NOT allowed them in the same room together yet. Kali snarles and
hisses and even seeing Midnight through a window sets her wild. Kali is not
a friendly cat in her best moments. Midnight appears terrified of her.

Both of these cats have been spayed, so there is no possibility of kittens
for either of them.

I've had many cats over the years, but never a problem like this one ... For
now, they are taking turns being in the main part of the house with the
other being in "their" own room. This works fine, BUT, is not the permanant
answer as we do want all our furry family to be able to share the same space
...

I'll let you know when and "IF" I get up the courage to try allowing them in
a room at the same time ... Wish me luck.

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Lesley - 22 Nov 2009 15:09 GMT
> > .

For
> now, they are taking turns being in the main part of the house with the
> other being in "their" own room. This works fine, BUT, is not the permanant
> answer as we do want all our furry family to be able to share the same space
> ...
You've only had them together since last week so it's not time to
panic yet- they're still working things out. The fact both have
seperate spaces is good- all cats need somewhere of their own to
retreat to and so long as one cat isn;t taking the attack to the
others space let them avoid each other if they want to so long as you
feed them together and praise them when they don't hiss at each other
they should eventually come to tolerate each other at least but don't
force them into contact it'll only make them anxious and on the
defensive.  We have 2 sisters and they have spaces where one cat won't
go but the other will. Even through they're sisters they still have
the odd scrap and it's important each cat has somewhere where they
feel secure

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Dori Neu - 25 Nov 2009 07:03 GMT
"Lesley" <LMadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk> wrote > For
> You've only had them together since last week so it's not time to
> panic yet- they're still working things out. The fact both have
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> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Thank you Lesley ... Things are progressing. They have been allowed out in
the house at the same time for the past couple of days and are pretty much
trying to avoid each other ... no serious spats and very little hissing ...
I think my first Kitty (Kali) is mad at me though ... she is a very reserved
cat anyway, but has been extra cold toward me since Midnight arrived and is
spending more time in her room than usual ... I just keep reassuring her
that she is still loved as much as ever ... i KNOW It will take time ...
Sometimes I just get impatient :-(
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Dori Neu - 05 Feb 2010 02:35 GMT
Hi all ... Just a quick update ...I sent the following message for help last
November ... Now that two months have passed our two female kitties are
getting along pretty well. They don't need to be separated any more and
occasionally seem to play together. There are still times when Kali reminds
Midnight that she's boss but the home front is pretty much peacefull these
days ... Thanks for all the usefull suggestions.
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Dori ... Cissy, Munk, Kali Kat and Midnight
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>> What is a safe way to introduce female cats? We adopted Kali a couple of
>> months ago. She is kind of a strange cat who wants nothing to do with my
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>>
>> I really need some advice here. Thanks in advance
Diana - 06 Feb 2010 01:28 GMT
> Hi all ... Just a quick update ...I sent the following message for help last
> November ... Now that two months have passed our two female kitties are
> getting along pretty well. They don't need to be separated any more and
> occasionally seem to play together. There are still times when Kali reminds
> Midnight that she's boss but the home front is pretty much peacefull these
> days ... Thanks for all the usefull suggestions.

Good news!  Thanks for the follow up.  It's nice to know when things
improve.

Diana
 
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