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Vacuum Cleaner?
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Mike - 10 May 2008 01:05 GMT For the 8 years I've had Isis there has been one constant. She does not like my vacuum cleaner. She didn't like my old noisy Hoover and she doesn't like my new less noisy Hoover. When I wheel it out of the closet she hunkers down and looks it straight in the eye. When I hit the on switch she runs for cover.
Does anyone have a cat that actually likes your vacuum?
Mike in Illinois
The Undertaker - 10 May 2008 01:57 GMT >For the 8 years I've had Isis there has been one constant. She does >not like my vacuum cleaner. She didn't like my old noisy Hoover and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Mike in Illinois Every cat i've had has hidden when the vacuum comes out.
Barbara - 10 May 2008 14:44 GMT I had read that cats hears 10x the noise volume than we do. If that is the case, just imagine us listening to something that sounds like it will burst our eardrums.
>>For the 8 years I've had Isis there has been one constant. She does >>not like my vacuum cleaner. She didn't like my old noisy Hoover and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Every cat i've had has hidden when the vacuum comes out. studio - 10 May 2008 20:12 GMT > I had read that cats hears 10x the noise volume than we do. If that is the > case, just imagine us listening to something that sounds like it will burst > our eardrums. Yes. Cats ears are tuned for very delicate sounds. My kitty can hear low frequency thunder before a human can, and she can also hear the faintest of high frequency noise from an insect.
Then if you turn on what's effectively the engines of a 747 at full throttle 20 feet away...if you couldn't cover your ears, you'd be going away from the noise as fast as you could too.
Mine doesn't like the hair drier either.
Mike - 10 May 2008 20:58 GMT If they have super sensitive hearing this could explain a lot. The first time I used my electric toothbrush she looked at me so strangely.
Mike in Illinois
>> I had read that cats hears 10x the noise volume than we do. If that is the >> case, just imagine us listening to something that sounds like it will burst [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Mine doesn't like the hair drier either. William Graham - 21 May 2008 21:41 GMT >> I had read that cats hears 10x the noise volume than we do. If that is >> the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mine doesn't like the hair drier either. The last machine our cats got used to the sound of, is our coffee bean grinder.....But now, they are even used to that.
Ted Davis - 10 May 2008 18:29 GMT >>For the 8 years I've had Isis there has been one constant. She does not >>like my vacuum cleaner. She didn't like my old noisy Hoover and she [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Every cat i've had has hidden when the vacuum comes out. I have fifteen, of which up to half a dozen (not always the same ones) can be found in the bedroom at any time. Of those, all but Tigger run away from my Hoover, but Tigger, Spooky, Maryweather, Mudpie, and a couple of the Walsung triplets stay put for the Dyson ... until I get right up to them. Elsewhere in the house, the cats that hang out there mostly run away.
 Signature T.E.D. (tdavis@mst.edu) MST (Missouri University of Science and Technology) used to be UMR (University of Missouri - Rolla).
miket - 10 May 2008 13:22 GMT Forget it, cats don't like the noise and I think they also hate what the vac does to the floor. They must sense what the beaters do to the floor.
Now there is a video on youtube of someone vacuuming their feline.
Mike P - 11 May 2008 11:43 GMT > Forget it, cats don't like the noise and I think they also hate what the > vac does to the floor. They must sense what the beaters do to the floor. > > Now there is a video on youtube of someone vacuuming their feline. One of my cats happily lets me vacuum him. The other *HATES* the vacuum with a passion...
Mike P
Mike - 11 May 2008 19:08 GMT Here's a link to a guy who vacuums his cat. The cat loves it. I soooo wish I could do this to Isis. She's a long hair and a good vacuum cleaning every so often would keep a million little kitty fluffs from showing up all over my house.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fi-DmNRNafM
Mike in Illinois
>> Forget it, cats don't like the noise and I think they also hate what the >> vac does to the floor. They must sense what the beaters do to the floor. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Mike P Upscale - 11 May 2008 22:38 GMT "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message
> Here's a link to a guy who vacuums his cat. The cat loves it. I soooo > wish I could do this to Isis. She's a long hair and a good vacuum > cleaning every so often would keep a million little kitty fluffs from > showing up all over my house. My Deetoo wouldn't let me vacuum her, but she loves having me comb her fur with the fine teeth side of the comb. When she sees the comb, she just stretches out and seems to melt into a puddle of fur while I go over her coat. I don't let the comb get too near her mouth though because she tries to eat the fur caught in the comb.
Mike - 12 May 2008 18:34 GMT I don't know why but I need to share my recent unrelated experience.
Isis was in a funky mood the other night. She was rippin' around the house and going a little bonkers. This happens in the spring. Well, she ran downstairs so we played a little "Chase Me". That's where I hide out behind corners and pounce. <-:
She ran down to my office and dived behind my couch. It's real dark there and she doesn't do that often. I dangled my bare hand behind the couch knowing full well that I might be sorry. I was playing "Danger Dan" again. Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and snag the side of my index finger and, with one claw and one swipe, gave me two bloody painful cuts.
My friend, Tony, told me I should know better than to use my hand as a kitty toy. I should know that. But I didn't.
Mike in Illinois
>> showing up all over my house. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >coat. I don't let the comb get too near her mouth though because she tries >to eat the fur caught in the comb. Barbara - 12 May 2008 20:45 GMT >I don't know why but I need to share my recent unrelated experience. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>coat. I don't let the comb get too near her mouth though because she tries >>to eat the fur caught in the comb. studio - 12 May 2008 22:25 GMT > Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and > snag the side of my index finger and, with one claw and one swipe, > gave me two bloody painful cuts. Try using a med- heavy leather glove for such purposes. But don't be too rough.
Mike - 12 May 2008 23:32 GMT I'm not rough on Isis. Don't worry. <-:
I am just subject to irresistible impulses to futz with her tummy when she's feeling feisty. If I wore gloves it wouldn't be a true "Danger Dan" manliness test. <-: Fortunately I don't feel the need to do this too often. I require my hands for my computer work.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
Mike in Illinois
>Try using a med- heavy leather glove for such purposes. >But don't be too rough. Mike P - 14 May 2008 21:37 GMT >> Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and >> snag the side of my index finger and, with one claw and one swipe, >> gave me two bloody painful cuts. > > Try using a med- heavy leather glove for such purposes. > But don't be too rough. I use a old welding gauntlet to pester my cats with. They love it. I make a "claw" shape and "threaten" them with it, and they will leap up and grab it with both paws, similar to a dog jumping up off the ground to grab a stick out your hand. Very aggressive and quite painful if I try it without the gauntlet :-)
Mike P
Elad Burr - 28 Jun 2008 22:17 GMT In article <ececeac0-34f0-4dac-9112-ce324aa18761@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and > > snag the side of my index finger and, with one claw and one swipe, > > gave me two bloody painful cuts. > > Try using a med- heavy leather glove for such purposes. > But don't be too rough. At one time, at my house, among the cats and dogs, we had a raccoon. To play with him (which he REALLY enjoyed) we ended up using heavy leather welding gloves.
Upscale - 13 May 2008 03:34 GMT "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message
> Dan" again. Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and > snag the side of my index finger and, with one claw and one swipe, > gave me two bloody painful cuts. You need to mitigate the danger somewhat. Approximately once a month when my Deetoo reaches up to sink her claws in my knee, depending on the pain I know it's time to trim her front claws again. I don't trim her rear claws because they don't get near as sharp or grow near as fast as the front claws. Another indication of claw trimming time is when I notice her claws getting caught in things.
Even with trimmed claws, there's still enough there to cause damage and confirm that I'm still able to enter what you call "Danger Dan" mode, but not so much claw that I'm in danger of extreme pain or substantial damage. Also, considering that summer is almost here, I like roaming around the apartment without my shirt on. After two experiences with Deetoo jumping on my bare back and raking it with her claws as she slid off, I'm a lot more proactive about the trimming claws aspect of things.
Mike - 13 May 2008 14:51 GMT After two experiences with Deetoo jumping on
>my bare back and raking it with her claws as she slid off, I'm a lot more >proactive about the trimming claws aspect of things. I see now that I've been in the amateur league. You have turned pro. Why, just picturing Deetoo on your bare back, claws dug in as she rakes her way down your back is almost too much to take. I'm ashamed to talk about my little finger bleed.
YOU are Danger Dan!
Mike in Illinois
Upscale - 13 May 2008 23:05 GMT "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message
> I see now that I've been in the amateur league. You have turned pro. > Why, just picturing Deetoo on your bare back, claws dug in as she > rakes her way down your back is almost too much to take. > I'm ashamed to talk about my little finger bleed. The first time it happened, I was in the bathroom, bent over the sink brushing my teeth. I was screaming in agony. She left a six inch bloody trail of scratch marks on my back that burned like hell for several days and then became itchy for several more days. That was two years ago when she wasn't full grown yet. Even now I shudder at remembering that pain. I've been pretty good about trimming her claws since then, but she still gets me once in awhile.
I guess we're even however. I use a wheelchair and about every month for almost two years, I'd accidentally roll on her tail or catch a toe. She'd shriek in pain, I'd jump two feet in the air and then feel terrible for the next ten minutes until she came out from hiding and forgave me. Eventually, I was trained to automatically growl "get out of the way" before moving backwards. Sometimes when I have guests over, they look at me funny when I do my automatic growl before moving.
Barbara - 14 May 2008 02:19 GMT My husband uses a power chair, and he has ran over a cat or two. Now they know to get out of the way when he turns it on!
> "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message >> I see now that I've been in the amateur league. You have turned pro. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > backwards. Sometimes when I have guests over, they look at me funny when I > do my automatic growl before moving. Mike - 14 May 2008 03:28 GMT Hey, this is a wonderfully vivid description. lolololol Yes! I can feel that ripping flesh as she frantically panics, grabs, claws and digs her way out of that tender skin. Yeooooow!
Honest, Upscale, no kidding now
YOU ARE TRULY THE ONE THE ONLY DANGER DAN!
Mike in Illinois
The first time it happened, I was in the bathroom, bent over the sink brushing my teeth. I was screaming in agony. She left a six inch bloody trail of scratch marks on my back that burned like hell for several days and then became itchy for several more days. That was two years ago when she wasn't full grown yet. Even now I shudder at remembering that pain. I've been pretty good about trimming her claws since then, but she still gets me once in awhile.
Mike P - 14 May 2008 21:39 GMT > "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message >> Dan" again. Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > my bare back and raking it with her claws as she slid off, I'm a lot more > proactive about the trimming claws aspect of things. I never trim my cats claws, but they go outside plenty so I suppose they do it themselves. They've got scratching posts around the house too. Strangely (and nicely) unless I'm playing rough with the gauntlet, they never get their claws out when playing, they just batter me with their pads
:-) Mike P
Upscale - 14 May 2008 22:23 GMT "Mike P" <privacy@privacy.net> wrote in message
> I never trim my cats claws, but they go outside plenty so I suppose they do > it themselves. They've got scratching posts around the house too. > Strangely (and nicely) unless I'm playing rough with the gauntlet, they > never get their claws out when playing, they just batter me with their pads With me, it's a necessity. Partially for self protection the rest because if I don't, she gets them caught in things. One time when she jumped up on my shoulder, she got her claws caught in my shirt and damned if I couldn't get them free. I ended up having to take my shirt off with yowling, struggling cat attached to it so I could see what I was doing to free her.
We have all out wrestling matches, but with her front claws trimmed, the most I have to watch out for is her crunching down on my fingers with her back teeth.
Kathy - 15 May 2008 03:05 GMT >> "Mike" <mike@spambegone.com> wrote in message >>> Dan" again. Well, even in that dark area, she was able to reach up and [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Mike P The cats sharpen their claws on the scratching post - it doesn't dull them. I clip all of Woodgie's claws. She's not thrilled with it and still hasn't learned that she can't pull away when I have the clipper on her claw. One twitch and we have a bleeding situation. Then I'm covered in blood and styptic powder. It's not pretty...
 Signature Kathy P., Woodgie's Gramma
Upscale - 15 May 2008 04:56 GMT "Kathy" <kathybear@gmail.com> wrote in message
> I clip all of Woodgie's claws. She's not thrilled with it and still hasn't > learned that she can't pull away when I have the clipper on her claw. One > twitch and we have a bleeding situation. Then I'm covered in blood and > styptic powder. It's not pretty... The trick is not to touch the claw until you actually clip. Deetoo doesn't like it much, but I wrap her up completely with a towel when I clip her nails. She whines, but mostly puts up with it. Most important is to cover her head in case she tries to bite and so she can't see what I'm doing. I also realized that the sides of a cat's claws are flat, so it's important to align the clippers properly so that the claw doesn't twist when I clip it. In other words, I clip from side to side, not up and down like one would do with a human fingernail.
The clippers the vet sold me for $12 were a complete piece of junk, so I use a pair of decent quality fine wire clippers from my tool kit. I line the clippers up with a claw making sure I'm not touching it, then I squeeze the clippers the last 1/8" making sure it's done really fast. It's over and done before she can react. Five minutes and nine more claws later with praise about what a good cat she is between each clip and I'm done for another month. The hardest part of the process is holding her body down with my left elbow, extracting a paw and exposing a nail with my left hand and clipping on the correct angle with the right hand.
Mike - 15 May 2008 15:58 GMT We have a nice store here in Crystal Lake called Amy's Grooming. Amy is a fairly big no-nonsense gal. I take Isis in about once every 3 months. For $55.00 Amy washes all the loose hair off (Isis is a long hair), gets rid of any knots that have formed in her hair or on her flanks, and does m'lady's claws. At the end she puts a small bandanna around her neck. The place has about 8 metal 'beds' and when I drop off Isis I see all these happy dogs who are being washed and groomed. Amy is the owner. She handles cats.
I like to sub out the tough jobs to the professionals.
Mike in Illinois
>The trick is not to touch the claw until you actually clip. Deetoo doesn't >like it much, but I wrap her up completely with a towel when I clip her [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >elbow, extracting a paw and exposing a nail with my left hand and clipping >on the correct angle with the right hand. Elad Burr - 28 Jun 2008 22:17 GMT > I don't know why but I need to share my recent unrelated experience. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My friend, Tony, told me I should know better than to use my hand as a > kitty toy. I should know that. But I didn't. Some cats enjoy a little blood sacrifice. It was the only way my old cat would play. When I found him, I thought he was played roughly with, and was a clue as to why he was now "on his own." Ten years later, just about every time my hand (arm, etc) came into play, the end result was blood.
Kathy - 12 May 2008 01:58 GMT >> Forget it, cats don't like the noise and I think they also hate what the >> vac does to the floor. They must sense what the beaters do to the floor. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Mike P My cat will watch the vacuum, or the lint roller, but won't let me get near her with it. She loves being brushed, but she hates being picked up for it. She runs away when I try to pick her up because she knows I have the brush or a washcloth... Kathy
Elad Burr - 28 Jun 2008 22:17 GMT > >> Forget it, cats don't like the noise and I think they also hate what the > >> vac does to the floor. They must sense what the beaters do to the floor. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > or a washcloth... > Kathy Back when I had a house full of cats and a vacuum cleaner, my roommate vacuumed all the time, and MOST of the cats would tolerate it as long as it kept it's distance. But flip the extension cord (to reposition it), and they would freak out. I figured that they thought it was some kind of long, thin snake.
William Graham - 21 May 2008 21:39 GMT > For the 8 years I've had Isis there has been one constant. She does > not like my vacuum cleaner. She didn't like my old noisy Hoover and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Mike in Illinois I don't know about, "liking" it, but mine are used to it, and don't run away any more......I use a small hand-held one to suck bugs off of the walls in our bedroom, and the cats pay no attention to the sound now......
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