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Art Gordon - 02 May 2008 19:46 GMT
We are retired living in NY and thinking of getting a place in Florida to
spend the winter months. We are concerned about driving long distances over
two or three days with 3 cats in the car. They don't particularly like being
in cars but since their car rides usually end up at the vets, that is
understandable. As long as I put a large towel over the cat carrier they are
quiet but that is only for 10 minutes per ride. I read that animal travel on
the airlines is far less than a perfect situation. Have any of you had
experience with long distance cat travel?
Gordon
Upscale - 02 May 2008 19:58 GMT
"Art Gordon" <gogm@optonline.net> wrote in message
> We are retired living in NY and thinking of getting a place in Florida to
> spend the winter months. We are concerned about driving long distances over
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> the airlines is far less than a perfect situation. Have any of you had
> experience with long distance cat travel?

Send me your email address and I'll put you in touch with a friend of mine
who just drove back to Toronto, Canada. She went to Florida for four months
taking four cats with her.
William Graham - 03 May 2008 01:23 GMT
> We are retired living in NY and thinking of getting a place in Florida to
> spend the winter months. We are concerned about driving long distances
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> Have any of you had experience with long distance cat travel?
> Gordon

Try getting them "acclimated" to the car by taking them for short trips with
you as often as you can.....ie: Take one or more of them with you whenever
you go to the store for a few minutes, so they will get used to car travel
without the vet being at the other end.
tension_on_the_wire - 03 May 2008 08:24 GMT
> We are retired living in NY and thinking of getting a place in Florida to
> spend the winter months. We are concerned about driving long distances over
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> experience with long distance cat travel?
> Gordon

Yes I have.  There are some things you should know.  The cargo bay of
a plane is unheated and damn cold up there.  Technically, under
ordinary circumstances, cold can be tolerated to a point, but along
with deafening noise and unnerving vibration, and usually dehydration
since they don't really want to drink or eat under such circumstances,
it can be a nasty experience for a cat.  They do survive the
experience, obviously, but if your cat is particularly sensitive or
gets easily freaked out, this may not be the option for you.  No
matter how miserable the car ride, they will feel some security just
having you there.  Whatever you do, don't let an untrained-to-the-car
cat out of his carrier just because he cries piteously.  Accidents
have happened when they dive under your legs and get just a bit of
anatomy under your brake pedal.

By the way, one other option for a plane ride, should you choose that
route, is sedating the cat pre-flight.  If your cat has a clean bill
of health, many vets won't object to giving you a little something to
administer to the cat (at home, long before you aim for the car or
taxi getting you to airport...don't wait till just before checking in)

Good luck.

--tension
tension_on_the_wire - 03 May 2008 17:59 GMT
On May 3, 12:24 am, tension_on_the_wire <tension_at_h...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > We are retired living in NY and thinking of getting a place in Florida to
> > spend the winter months. We are concerned about driving long distances over
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>
> --tension

Sorry to reply to myself, but I forgot to add, that I learned an
interesting thing about my extremely vocal cats who learned to wait
until my head was turned to the right so that their scream was
particularly piercing in my right ear when driving to the vet.  I have
driven across the USA with two cats in the car on two occasions, once
taking the scenic route which was eleven days in the car.  After about
an hour, they realize that this is obviously no ordinary vet visit and
even my loudest cat did settle down into a sullen silence for the rest
of the trip.  So there is hope for your ears.

--tension
Diana - 03 May 2008 21:58 GMT
In article
<003eb021-d7e7-4be6-823d-a2c080c4f87d@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> Sorry to reply to myself, but I forgot to add, that I learned an
> interesting thing about my extremely vocal cats who learned to wait
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>
> --tension

Question:  On car trips involving overnight stays, do your cats put in
an entire day in the carrier, or do you stop at intervals and give then
the opportunity to eat/drink/use the box?  I will eventually be moving
my cats, and am trying to develop a strategy for a trip of two full
days.  

TIA,
Diana
tension_on_the_wire - 03 May 2008 23:25 GMT
> In article
> <003eb021-d7e7-4be6-823d-a2c080c4f...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
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> TIA,
> Diana

I have tried several methods.  If I am bent on making time, then I
will lay down fresh water and food for them during gas station stops.
If I am camping along the way, I will stop for a full-blown picnic
lunch and get the cats out too, and put them on a leash, but that
almost resulted in near disaster once in the Rocky Mountains when I
thought I was stopping in the most abandoned picnic area in the
world...and out of the blues a yapping family with screaming kids came
out of the woods (walking) at the same time as a bloody garbage truck
with screaming gears and brakes came in off the highway for a pickup.
The cats were so freaked out they managed to back out completely from
their full-body harness (it takes a desperate cat to do that if it's
fitted properly) and took off into the mountains.  I couldn't even
look for them till all the nuisance was gone, and then it was sheer
cat psychic powers that made me find them, I have no other
explanation.  Anyways, the moral of the story is be very, very careful
about removing your cats from the car or their carriers on journeys,
because it is like no other form of lost.  They can't radar their way
home that easily, contrary to popular opinion.

The safest method is to check into a motel/hotel that allows pets and
let them settle there for the night and hoof it onward the next day.
Even that can be dodgy, however.  On the same trip I mentioned
earlier, someone (housekeeping, I think) opened the windows of the
motel room.  When next I came back to the room looking for the cats
they were long gone.  Again.  More cat psychic powers (I found them on
two different floors of the motel, one cowering behind a wall
radiator).

As uncomfortable as it is for them, the safest thing is to keep them
in their carrier at all times and when you need to, let them out to
pee or drink/eat....do it in your car with the windows firmly closed
or the room.  They should be able to handle it for two days, if you
are using a hotel at night.  It's only misery, not threatening to
their health.  Keep in mind, by the way, that they likely will not
each much, if anything during that time....but stopping the car for
them to eat doesn't seem to encourage them either, so it's six of one,
half-dozen of the other.  They won't relax till you get there (Are we
there yet, are we there yet, how'bout now, how'bout now?)

Good luck

--tension
Diana - 04 May 2008 00:38 GMT
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<588d1a11-dfd2-4e63-9b3c-199c168276a3@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

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> As uncomfortable as it is for them, the safest thing is to keep them
> in their carrier at all times and when you need to, let them out to
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>
> --tension

This about what I have been thinking, tension--thanks.  I would not
consider taking them out in harness, having had one pull out years ago
(fortunately, in my yard.)  I would have them in a hotel room overnight.
The issue that concerns me most is whether it would be easier on them to
go 9 or 10 hours in the carrier until we stop for the night, or whether
I should let them out in the car at least once to see if they would pee
or drink.  Eating is not much of a concern, really, but I worry that
they might suffer from too long without a pee or a drink.  I probably
obsess too much about their comfort, but you know how it is...

Diana
tension_on_the_wire - 04 May 2008 01:29 GMT
> In article
> <588d1a11-dfd2-4e63-9b3c-199c16827...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> Diana

They make sure we obsess.  ahem.

But yes, 9 - 10 hours would be an ltnp (long time no pee) unless
that's typical for your cat anyway.  If they can hold it, they might
try to hold it because they are generally miffed.  But remember, you
cannot drive all day without stopping for gas anyway, so if you make
it more of a rest-stop, with time to park off in a corner and give
them a bit of a break, it would avoid any problems.  They still might
decide not to pee.  But at least it constitutes informed consent if
you gave them an honest chance!

--tension
Diana - 04 May 2008 21:08 GMT
In article
<1f7d21eb-6c5c-4aad-adeb-8d393ba3b2eb@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,

> They make sure we obsess.  ahem.
>
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>
> --tension

Right, I'll be stopping along the way.  The hard part is he physical
logistics of letting them out of the carriers, where to have the
litterbox, water bowls, etc.  Upscale had a good point about using cages
big enough for that stuff to be in with the cats.  It's going to be a
major project, however I do it, but now I'm thinking of renting a van
and buying a big cage or cages.  

For just this once I'm kind of envious of the dog owners.  :)
tension_on_the_wire - 04 May 2008 23:13 GMT
> In article
> <1f7d21eb-6c5c-4aad-adeb-8d393ba3b...@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> For just this once I'm kind of envious of the dog owners.  :)

I've driven long distance with a large dog, too, and it had it's own
issues, believe me!  He was just a whole second passenger.

With the cats, I was driving a little Honda Prelude, but the back
seats fold down to give interior access to the trunk which made it
easy to reach stores and litter box and pull out into the back when
needed without even getting out of the car.  We had to be creative
with small space, but the cats seems to get cozy into it quickly too,
with piles of blankets all over.  No question a van would be luxurious
in comparison if you can do it, though.  These particular cats got so
comfortable that I was able to drive most of the trip with them loose
in the car, but that is not generally the rule so I don't advise it
unless you are really sure of your cats.

--tension
Upscale - 04 May 2008 18:05 GMT
"Diana" <imdianawithoutspam@bellsouth.not> wrote in message
> Question:  On car trips involving overnight stays, do your cats put in
> an entire day in the carrier, or do you stop at intervals and give then
> the opportunity to eat/drink/use the box?  I will eventually be moving
> my cats, and am trying to develop a strategy for a trip of two full
> days.

How much space will be available in the vehicle that you will be travelling
in? If there's room, I'd go with a cage (as compared to a carrier). It's
bigger and more open and has room for a small litter box, water and feed
bowls. Much less stressful than a carrier and the cats can look around as
you're driving.
Diana - 04 May 2008 21:00 GMT
> "Diana" <imdianawithoutspam@bellsouth.not> wrote in message
> > Question:  On car trips involving overnight stays, do your cats put in
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> bowls. Much less stressful than a carrier and the cats can look around as
> you're driving.

I could rent a van for the trip.  That would complicate getting my car
moved, but would be do-able.  And I'd have to devise a way to secure the
cages in the back of the van, but that should be do-able as well, with a
bit of ingenuity.  I like your suggestion, Upscale!

Diana
 
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