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tomcat - 27 Jan 2008 16:42 GMT
I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries
practice declawing on cats.

How can a civilised country allow this to be done by officially
registered medical professionals?

Why doesn't anybody do something to immediately stop this?

:-(
Matt - 27 Jan 2008 17:01 GMT
Many if us animal lovers have been trying for years.  The USA laws still
view animals as property and can be done with by the owners as they please

>I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries practice
>declawing on cats.
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>
> :-(
Baldoni - 27 Jan 2008 18:27 GMT
Matt has brought this to us :
> Many if us animal lovers have been trying for years.  The USA laws still view
> animals as property and can be done with by the owners as they please
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>>
>> >-(

I take it then that this is not allowed in the UK ?

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Baldoni - 27 Jan 2008 18:27 GMT
tomcat pretended :
> I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries practice
> declawing on cats.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> :-(

I always try to gain an understanding of this sort of thing by asking
myself "how would I like it if all my nails were pulled out".  Only
claws for a cat are probably as important as our hands.

There is a guy who lives near me who is a bit odd.  He gave away a
kitten because he found out the people next door had given it some
food.  He cuts the nails of his new Siamese but not declawed.  His
apartment is immaculate and he will not tolerate anything out of place.

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Spider - 30 Jan 2008 13:37 GMT
> tomcat pretended :
>> I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries
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> the nails of his new Siamese but not declawed.  His apartment is
> immaculate and he will not tolerate anything out of place.

If all people thought in this humane and empathic way, the world would be a
better place - especially for animals.  Declawing cats is cruel and
potentially dangerous. A clawless cat is less able to climb to safety or
defend itself if it has no claws.  In the home, a cat can be given a
stropping 'tree' or a length of stout branch to sharpen and clean its claws.
Properly trained with this in place, no cat needs to scratch furniture or
textile furnishings.  My cats are trained in this way and, just like the
gentleman you cited, I clip my cats' nails when they become over long.  I
have no problems with damage within the house.  True to say, my UK cats are
outdoor/indoor cats, which probably makes it easier.  Since many US cats
seem to be indoor only cats, the obvious answer is to build them a play area
indoors - an adventure playground for cats, if you like.

There can be no circumstance - and no person - that could hope to persuade
me that declawing is justifiable.  It is the most wretched abomination.

Spider
William Graham - 30 Jan 2008 20:19 GMT
>> tomcat pretended :
>>> I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries
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> Spider

I agree. My cats are indoor/outdoor cats, and they need their claws to
protect themselves from the raccoons and other stray cats, as well as the
occasional dog that gets loose and investigates our property. They also like
to climb trees, and sleep on my roof in the Summertime. They need their
claws for many things, and it is cruel to have them removed. If I had any
furniture that I wanted to protect from the cats I would put it in a spare
bedroom, and keep the door closed so the cats couldn't get to it.
Stan Brown - 28 Jan 2008 02:33 GMT
Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:42:00 +0100 from tomcat <tom@nospam.com>:
> I was *HORRIFIED* when I got to to know that american veterinaries
> practice declawing on cats.
>
> Why doesn't anybody do something to immediately stop this?

People are trying to, but it's a matter of education.

As recently as the mid-1980s, my vet saw nothing wrong with the
practice for indoor cats, and I thought it was just routine, like
spaying and neutering. Now, of course, I kow how wrong it is (and I'm
sure he does too).

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