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RevRagnarok - 11 Oct 2003 11:52 GMT Hello All,
Our cat has started taking a liking to urinating in the laundry basket, with clean/or dirty laundry in it. :( A little background, and maybe somebody out there will have an idea.
We got Freya last Feb from a shelter. She was "about 4" at the time. She was litter trained, but had abandonment issues since the previous owner actually moved out and left her behind in the apartment! :( From day one, she's had her litter box and has used it, never had an accident. We clean it regularly, at most it sits for 32 hours, but usually 24.
The litter box is nice and private, way off in the corner of an unfinished basement in a 3 story townhouse (bedrooms - living area - basement). About 2 months ago, I installed a cat door into the basement from the living room. Sometimes she seems a little uncomfortable with it, but she uses it. The laundry basket that she likes now is in our bedroom on the top floor (so one of the reasons may be laziness).
This is the fourth time she's peed on our laundry. The first two I think she is allowed an excuse:
1. A few months ago - I was trying to toilet train her, and she didn't like when her litter box went away and she had to use a big bowl of litter that was in the toilet. So she peed in a pile that wasn't in a basket. Didn't find it for a week. :( Realized she had not gone for a day and gave her back the litter box.
2. About 2 weeks ago - We got a rock tumbler. If you don't know what that is, think of a handful of rocks slowly rotating in a plastic cup, with a little electric motor. 24 hours a day. For weeks. It is fairly loud. It had been on the other end of the basement fine for about 2 weeks, but was moved to what we believe was too close to the box because she didn't use it for a day. Went in the laundry once, we moved the rock tumbler back to its original spot, and everything was fine.
3. A week ago (so this is 1 week after back to normal), she just randomly went in the laundry. Found it, got upset, but we know her little kitty brain cannot corrolate that far after the fact (it was found damp, but definitely not new) so we never scolded her for it. We thought she may have drank too much - recently she had started drinking water from the sink after we brush our teeth (she's never been partial to water bowls) so we figured she may have overdid it that time. She has been banned from the bathroom since then, and we have one of those kitty fountains on order for the basement.
4. This morning. I woke up hearing her collar going 'tink tink tink' and thought to myself why it would make that kind of noise? Then it clicked that she could be doing a burying motion, I sit up, and as soon as she saw me move hopped out of the basket (so she KNOWS she's not supposed to do that). I yelled and chased her out of the bedroom, and she immediately ran to the basement (using the cat door).
Well, any ideas? I don't think she's sick, because she has been acting active all the time playing with us and her toys. She hasn't been any more vocal than usual (which is very rare, except if she thinks we all left the house she cries sometimes). Friends tell me I should feel lucky since it's always been in/on removable items, as in it has never soaked into the carpet/padding yet, but getting the stains and smell out sure isn't fun. And the carpet is less than a year and a half old, so I guess I am lucky. None of the incidents happened right after a vacation or anything like that either.
- Aaron
Sam - 11 Oct 2003 12:07 GMT > Our cat has started taking a liking to urinating in the laundry > basket, with clean/or dirty laundry in it. [massive snip]
You're making this WAY harder than it needs to be. Just put the laundry in a room (close the door) or up on a shelf where the cat can't get to it. Problem solved.
MaryL - 11 Oct 2003 18:21 GMT > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Aaron There are several possibilities that I can think of: (1) First and foremost, have your cat checked for possible medical problems. You cannot make this assumption based simply on how she plays or interacts. Inappropriate urination is often one of the first signs of urinary tract infections. If so, that is treatable (and usually inexpensive); but if left untreated, it can be fatal. Moreover, she may start to associate the pain of urination with the litter box if your cat has UTI. (2) Laundry baskets seem to act as an attractant to many cats. Assuming no medical problems, this is one of the places cats often use. It may be that the detergent attracts them, or possibly even the scent of the basket. At any rate, you can solve that problem by placing the basket in area out of the cat's reach -- for example, place the laundry basket in a closed closet, or close a door to the laundry room so the cat can't enter. (3) You should make litter boxes as accessible to the cat as possible. From your message, it appears that the opposite was done when you placed the litter box in a position where your cat has go go through the cat door. This would not bother many cats, but you said that your cat is "uncomfortable" with it. If possible, you should have a litter box on each floor. This is particularly true if this is not "laziness" on your cat's part (for example, it there is UTI). (4) Are the boxes kept clean? Cats are very clean animals, and many will not use litter boxes that are allowed to get dirty. Again, I admit that this is not always true -- but it is true in enough cases that this would be a "primary suspect" to me if the boxes are not cleaned every day. You did say that your are cleaned regularly, so this may not be a problem. On the other hand, is it possible that they are "out of sight, out of mind"? -- in other words, do you sometimes forget to clean them because they are not visible to you. I suggest that you add a box to an area that is close to your activities. I do not suggest that you set one up in the traffic area!! ...just that it be close by. For example, I have a walk-in closet in my computer room where I keep books and supplies. I have reserved the floor of one side for one of my litter boxes. It is close by and I can hear when they use it (which also makes it easy to monitor that box to see if there is any problem, such as straining -- which is another signal of UTI). Another box is in a corner of a room that I use for painting (frequent) and for exercise (almost never, unfortunately). Again, I can easily monitor it. (5) A general rule of thumb is one box for each cat plus one extra. You have that, but your set-up -- three stories plus the need to go through a cat door and down to the basement for one of the boxes -- signals a need for more boxes. (6) You have mentioned several events that could be stressful to her, and than can have a cumulative effect -- abandonment, an attempt to train her to use a toilet bowl (some are successful, but this is not "natural" to a cat), the noise of the rock tumbler closer to her box (now moved), installing a cat door that she is not comfortable with, etc. Incidentally, you wondered if she may have had a problem because she drank too much, and you mention her sudden interest in drinking water from the sink. It is extremely unlikely that drinking too much water would cause her to use another location (very unlike bedwetting in children). However, an increase or decrease in water intake can be another important signal of medical problems. Be sure to mention this change to your vet.
Good luck! And, please, make a veterinary appointment immediately for a check-up.
MaryL (take out the litter to reply)
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Sam - 11 Oct 2003 18:59 GMT > There are several possibilities that I can think of: > (1) First and foremost, have your cat checked for possible medical problems. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > decrease in water intake can be another important signal of medical > problems. Be sure to mention this change to your vet. Holy Christ, why do some people have to make this 1000X harder than it needs to be?!
He asked a simple question that has a simple answer: Just put the laundry basket where the cat can't get to it.
Done. Problem solved. Get on with life.
MaryL - 11 Oct 2003 19:06 GMT > Holy Christ, why do some people have to make this 1000X harder than it > needs to be?! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Done. Problem solved. Get on with life. Why? Because it may not be as simple as you make it appear. If it is and simply moving the litter box works, then great. However, many of us on this group have noted that there can be many factors at work (especially and most important -- the possibly of urinary tract infection). Therefore, I tried to give several suggestions. One may work, or it may take several.
MaryL (take out the litter to reply)
~*Connie*~ - 11 Oct 2003 19:51 GMT because cats are NOT simple creatures.
> Holy Christ, why do some people have to make this 1000X harder than it > needs to be?! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Done. Problem solved. Get on with life. Me - 13 Oct 2003 14:34 GMT > because cats are NOT simple creatures. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Done. Problem solved. Get on with life. True, but whenever one is confronted with a problem, the best way to deal with it is to try the simplest solution first. In this case, putting the laundry basket out of the cat's reach will probably solve the problem. If not, then other options can certainly be tried.
Del R. - 17 Dec 2004 14:37 GMT >>Holy Christ, why do some people have to make this 1000X harder than it needs to be?! He asked a simple question that has a simple answer: Just put the laundry basket where the cat can't get to it.<<
Lets see... Um, maybe it's because when you put the basket out of reach, then they'll pee on the bed or the couch or the other bed. That's been my experience. Take away one spot and they pee on another. Anywhere but the liter box.
Clean your boxes (or get new ones) and check with your vet. There's a problem.
Fantastic tip about the extra box. That's gives those of us with problematic cats hope.
'Put the laundry basket where the cat can't get to it.' Sigh. If only life were that simple. It's not.
BengalsMeow - 12 Aug 2006 19:07 GMT >Holy Christ, why do some people have to make this 1000X harder than it >needs to be?! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Done. Problem solved. Get on with life. RevRagnarok - 12 Oct 2003 14:42 GMT Thank you for taking so much care in writing up this reply, you've made some excellent points. I guess we will bite the bullet and get her checked out.
For UTI, howmuch pain is there? I ask because I am able to rub/massage her lower abdomen and she doesn't express pain/discomfort.
Being in a townhouse, it seems to be very hard to find a good location to put another box that is out of the way enough to not be in plain sight all the time. :( There are two adults in here, and we alternate nights cleaning it out. I mentioned ~32 hours because that would be the max if the first cleaning was at bedtime on night 1, night 2 was skipped, but it was done on morning 3.
I have read a lot on the net about stresses but all the stresses are past tense (well, the rock tumbler was still in the basement, but nowhere near the litter, and just that day she had been in the basement lounging on the floor two feet from it) - can cat's stresses be cumulative?
Thanks again.
- Aaron
>> Hello All, >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Moreover, she may start to associate the pain of urination with the > litter box if your cat has UTI. (2) Laundry baskets seem to act as an MaryL - 12 Oct 2003 19:07 GMT > Thank you for taking so much care in writing up this reply, you've made > some excellent points. I guess we will bite the bullet and get her > checked out. You're welcome ...and thank you for taking your cat to a vet. That is the only way to either verify the presence of UTI or to rule it out.
> For UTI, howmuch pain is there? I ask because I am able to rub/massage > her lower abdomen and she doesn't express pain/discomfort. I think this varies considerably, from no pain to considerable pain (depending on the extent of the problem). Moreover, cats are very adept at hiding pain, so it often would not be apparent to us. That is often one of the problems we face when we try to determine if the cat is comfortable or in pain.
> I have read a lot on the net about stresses but all the stresses are > past tense (well, the rock tumbler was still in the basement, but > nowhere near the litter, and just that day she had been in the basement > lounging on the floor two feet from it) - can cat's stresses be > cumulative? Yes, stress can be cumulative (just like with people), so you would not necessarily be able to point to a single incident. Many people have found Feliway to be effective even if they can't pinpoint the precise cause. In my case, I used it when I adopted a new cat and brought him into a household where my resident cat had always been aggressive toward other cats. It worked wonders! The two now get along beautifully (and I now use Feliway only for visits to the vet or for the rare event when I am gone overnight and have a pet-sitter).
MaryL
> Thanks again. > > - Aaron MaryL - 11 Oct 2003 18:53 GMT > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Aaron Here's a follow-up to my previous message (I have to do this *too* often because I forget to include something). That is, it's possible that stress is playing a role. It could be a good idea to buy some Feliway diffusers and set them up in 2 or 3 areas when your cat spends a lot of time. Feliway is a behavior modification spray. It is frequently used to calm cats in stressful situations. ValleyVet (http://www.valleyvet.com) lists Feliway for $29.95 for a diffuser with one bottle of Feliway. Refills are available for the diffuser (I'm not sure of the cost), and it is also available as a spray for $15.95. I prefer the diffusers because they continually release a measured amount. I do keep one of the spray versions to use in carriers before going to the vet. Shipping is free from ValleyVet. You might be able to find a better price by surfing the internet, or someone here may be able to recommend other sources.
But I want to reiterate what I said in my original message: first of all, have your cat checked by a veterinarian for possible medical problems, and do it as soon as possible.
MaryL (take out the litter to reply)
m. L. Briggs - 11 Oct 2003 23:11 GMT >Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > - Aaron 1. "litter box way off in corner of unfinished basement of 3 story house". ====not good idea
2. " rock polishing machine in vicinity"====not good idea
3. laundry basket available ===not good idea
I can only tell you what I think is appropriate:
1. litter box on each floor in quite space that is easily accessible. The bathroom would be good then you could scoop every time you went in there.
2. Put laundry basket in a closet and close the door. Better yet, put clothes in drawer when clean or a closed hamper if dirty.
Be sure to show kitty that these are his and available for his use.
If he continues to go outside the box, follow advice about taking him to the Vet.
Mostly it is a matter of common sense. Good luck. MLB
zuzu22@webtv.net - 11 Oct 2003 23:11 GMT Cats are masters at hiding illness and a urinary tract infection often goes unnoticed until the cat is very ill. Take your cat to the vet ASAP and have them do a urinalysis before you decide this is a behavior issue.
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me and bobby mcgee - 12 Oct 2003 06:25 GMT Our cat Jasmine does this- she pees on damp towels that are left in the 1st floor bathroom of our ranch house (cat box in basement), but only if her litter box is dirty. In our old 2-story house, she would do it on the second floor only, and even when her basement box was clean, so we got a 2nd floor cat box as well. Problem solved.
RevRagnarok - 14 Oct 2003 02:51 GMT Well, thanks again for all the advice. Took Freya to the vet today, and the news was not as good as I liked. :( There was a trace of blood in the urine, so now she's on amoxicillin for a week or so. (Not sure if it was blood or WBCs.) This is the first time that I've HOPED it's "just" a UTI, because the vet said it could also be kidney/bladder stones. :(
- Aaron
> Hello All, > > Our cat has started taking a liking to urinating in the laundry > basket, with clean/or dirty laundry in it. :( A little background, and > maybe somebody out there will have an idea. Victor M. Martinez - 14 Oct 2003 15:10 GMT Make sure they check for crystals as well. You might want to switch to a canned-food based diet now.
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Gemma Carroll - 20 Oct 2003 16:41 GMT Hi Aaron
I think you should move your laundy basket somewhere else, then in the same spot,put the litter tray there. The cat might like that particualar spot so she might use it.
I don't think this should be a real worry, your cat migfht still be adjusting and finds your house a bit scary. I mean didn't you say she lived in an appartment before. She might feel uncomfertable with a bigger place to live.
Love Gemma
ps. I hope you don't think i am a bit critical, its just that is what i think is your cats problem.
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