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Hurrikane - 29 Sep 2003 14:14 GMT
Just found this news group & thought I would say hi !

I got ZeeB about a week ago :)  See is about 8 weeks old & very cute most of
the time.

Just wondering about a few things :-

Can a kitten overdose on catnip - sounds silly but she really went mad on it
& when we tried to remove the mousey thing, she got very offensive, growled,
hissed & drew blood.

Another thing she does is try to 'burry' her food.
It doesn't matter if its fresh of not. After eating some she tries to burry
it by scratching the newspaper & always knocks her water bowl over.

Any hints would be great.

PS. Are there any posters from England here ?
JM - 29 Sep 2003 16:41 GMT
>I got ZeeB about a week ago :)  See is about 8 weeks old & very cute most of
>the time.

Congrats :-)

>Just wondering about a few things :-
>
>Can a kitten overdose on catnip - sounds silly but she really went mad on it
>& when we tried to remove the mousey thing, she got very offensive, growled,
>hissed & drew blood.

Nope, they cannot overdose.

>Another thing she does is try to 'burry' her food.
>It doesn't matter if its fresh of not. After eating some she tries to burry
>it by scratching the newspaper & always knocks her water bowl over.

Combined with your previous question, both are instinctive behaviours
and not bad. She is very catty, seems to me. Hissing when you try to
take her toy is like protecting her prey against other animals.
Burying the food is also quite normal, she just want to save some for
later and doesn't want scavengers to find it. My adult cats still do
it from time to time. Just move the water bowl to a safe distance ;-)

JM
Hurrikane - 29 Sep 2003 23:36 GMT
In news article: ibkgnvojvntq75ukdsoke2ekeag0e0n1ld@4ax.com , JM
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>> I got ZeeB about a week ago :)  See is about 8 weeks old & very cute
>> most of the time.
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> later and doesn't want scavengers to find it. My adult cats still do
> it from time to time. Just move the water bowl to a safe distance ;-)

Thanks JM !

Its reassuring to know ZeeB isn't completely mad, yet :)
David Stevenson - 29 Sep 2003 17:30 GMT
>Just found this news group & thought I would say hi !
>
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>
>PS. Are there any posters from England here ?

  Surely.

  I try to send a Welcome! email to anyone who is new on any cat
newsgroup.  Since you have fudged your eddress, if you would like to
send me a working eddress I shall send you your Welcome! email.

  The same applies to anyone else who has not had one from me.

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Hurrikane - 29 Sep 2003 23:33 GMT
In news article: mv5WHJN64Fe$Ewjh@blakjak.demon.co.uk , David Stevenson
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>> Just found this news group & thought I would say hi !
>>
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>
>    The same applies to anyone else who has not had one from me.

Thanks David, but I just mailed you my addy & it bounced back to me !

I feel welcome already tho :).
David Stevenson - 30 Sep 2003 11:58 GMT
>In news article: mv5WHJN64Fe$Ewjh@blakjak.demon.co.uk , David Stevenson
>wibbled
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>
>Thanks David, but I just mailed you my addy & it bounced back to me !

 Sh - errrr - bother.

 I am afraid my anti-spam software is vicious!  But I am running at
over 600 emails a day, of which over 500 are spam, so I had to do
something. Unfortunately you will now be blacklisted, for whatever
reason was in its little brain.

 I tell you what: I shall post my Welcome! email for you and anyone
else who has never received one.  I shall do that as a separate post.

 If you actually want anything in it you will have to let me know here.
Of course I can take someone off the blacklist but i have to know your
eddress so it is a vicious circle!

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David Stevenson - 30 Sep 2003 16:30 GMT
>  If you actually want anything in it you will have to let me know here.
>Of course I can take someone off the blacklist but i have to know your
>eddress so it is a vicious circle!

  This does worry me somewhat.  If anyone has sent me an email any time
in the last five months and got a bounce they are likely to be
blacklisted.  I tell you what.  If this applies to anyone please send me
an email to

 b l u e j a k [ at ] t a l k 2 1 [ dot ] c o m

and for the next couple of weeks I shall take my anti-spam away from
that account.  Once I receive such an email I shall tell my anti-spam to
put you on the whitelist not the blacklist!

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David Stevenson - 30 Sep 2003 12:03 GMT
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David Stevenson - 30 Sep 2003 16:46 GMT
>  Every so often I publish a list in four parts [A-D, E-J, K-N and O-Z]
>on the newsgroups called Humans, places, cats + other pets.  Entries
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>                                           UK         Pish RB; Dog:
>Scamp RB

  That's a mess!  Try again:

                                     Quango, Nanki Poo, Tao MIA,
David S      Liverpool     England   Ting RB, Suk RB, Tush RB,
                           UK        Minke, Pish RB; Dog: Scamp RB

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~*SooZy*~ - 29 Sep 2003 19:59 GMT
> Just found this news group & thought I would say hi !
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> & when we tried to remove the mousey thing, she got very offensive, growled,
> hissed & drew blood.

on both my cat nip sprays it says for over 6 months old....  but if its in a
toy, just let her play with it :-)

> Another thing she does is try to 'burry' her food.
> It doesn't matter if its fresh of not. After eating some she tries to burry
> it by scratching the newspaper & always knocks her water bowl over.

have you got her dish on newspaper? if so remove it, if you need to put it
on something use a rubber mat,

> Any hints would be great.
>
> PS. Are there any posters from England here ?

yes I am but you have met me beofre in uk cat newsgroup
Lisa Jones - 29 Sep 2003 21:55 GMT
Hi!

I'm in the UK, Cardiff to be exact and our cat does the same thing! Eats a
bit of food then tries to bury it. After a few minutes she'll walk back over
to it, have a sniff and try to bury it again! Just thought that our Charlie
was nuts....well she is really! Always wondered why they do it!!
As with a lot of cats Charlie loves to sit on paper...even the smallest bit
of paper she'll find and park herself on it but sometimes she'll dig at it
like she does her food. And when she comes to sleep on one of us if we are
sitting on the sofa she'll do her little burying thing on us b4 sitting
down. Weird!

Lisa.
Hurrikane - 29 Sep 2003 23:45 GMT
In news article: bla68f$e0r$1@sparta.btinternet.com , Lisa Jones
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> Hi!
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> to sleep on one of us if we are sitting on the sofa she'll do her
> little burying thing on us b4 sitting down. Weird!

So its not just ZeeB being nuts then :) !

She seems to like paper too, tissue boxes (full ones !) & loo roll (clean of
course) which she happily sits in front of & shreds ! ! !
Hurrikane - 29 Sep 2003 23:41 GMT
In news article: bl9vem$4kc$1@hercules.btinternet.com , ~*SooZy*~
wibbled

>> I got ZeeB about a week ago :)  See is about 8 weeks old & very cute
>> most of the time.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> on both my cat nip sprays it says for over 6 months old....  but if
> its in a toy, just let her play with it :-)

Thanks for that !

>> Another thing she does is try to 'burry' her food.
>> It doesn't matter if its fresh of not. After eating some she tries
>> to burry it by scratching the newspaper
>
> have you got her dish on newspaper? if so remove it, if you need to
> put it on something use a rubber mat,

How did you guess I use newspaper -  don't they like it ?

>> PS. Are there any posters from England here ?
>
> yes I am but you have met me beofre in uk cat newsgroup

I found this newgroup & it seems this one had more 'traffic' as it were.
~*Connie*~ - 30 Sep 2003 00:04 GMT
You've got an 8wk old kitten that reacts to nip?  that's great!  Often they
don't show signs of liking it till they are six months.  I have one that
reacted to it young as well.  I call him my little nip-a-holic.  They can't
overdose on it.. but if she does react that strongly to it, Id recommend not
trying to take the toy away again :)

Ive always tried to break kittens of the burring habit.  It is natural for
them to do it so I would never punish them for doing it.. but Id gently say
no, and redirect them into doing something else... mostly cause if I left
them to it, they would eventually flip over the food bowl and make a big
mess.  For the most part it works for younger kittens, but not so much for
the older ones.

> Just found this news group & thought I would say hi !
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> PS. Are there any posters from England here ?
 
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