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Mike - 05 May 2007 14:46 GMT
Hi, guys.

   I just moved into a new home. At night and when I am gone I want to keep
Isis in the kitchen area. To do this I will need a gate that is about 4'
wide and 4' high. I'm talking about an 'infant gate' type of thing that you
might use to keep an infant in a particular room.

   I've seen pet gates out there but I'm not finding one that is 4' high. I
think 4' will be enough to discourage her from trying any high jumps.

   Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you.

Mike in Illinois
Mike - 05 May 2007 15:09 GMT
In reply to my own message, I'm not finding what I think I need on the net.

The opening to my kitchen is four feet wide. A lot of the gates out there
only extend to 42".

Unless someone can possibly suggest a gate that will extend to 50" wide and
is four feet high I think the best answer may be to just get a finished
piece of plywood cut so size and figure out a way to keep it from falling
over . . . .

Thanks!

Mike in Illinois

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Diana - 05 May 2007 15:38 GMT
> In reply to my own message, I'm not finding what I think I need on the net.
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> Mike in Illinois

Go for the plywood.  With enough duct tape you could even keep it from
falling over.  Actually, I think this is a terrible idea.  You guys must
have something on the Y chromosome that gives you these gems!  :) The
gate (use two and hook them together in the middle to overcome the the
large span) would look bad enough, but less bad that the plywood, only I
don't know of a cat that wouldn't just climb over if it really wanted
out.  

I'd go for installing a bi-fold door if you could find one that large,
which might be  problem.  An accordion pleated door would be more likely
to come in any size.  Go ask at Lowe's or Home Depot.  

How has Isis taken to being moved, by the way? Or has the move actually
taken place yet?  I will eventually be moving Celeste, and I get all
worried about her every time I think about it.  

Congrats on the new home, and good luck!

Diana
Barbara - 05 May 2007 15:49 GMT
I dont think a gate that doesnt go all the way to the top would stop my
cats..especially Feisty. As the saying goes...if there's a will, there;s a
way...particularly for cats :)

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Mike - 05 May 2007 19:02 GMT
Well, Diana, it's the Y-Chromosome that has put the planet in the shape it's
in now so I think that speaks for itself!

Isis is getting older now. I had a big long talk with the new vet. Isis
likes to urinate at the entryways whenever she sees other cats. This is a
new house. It's 4 years old. We are not going to dance that dance again like
I did at the old place. What the vet told me was that Isis is a very
territorial and, therefore, 'anxious' cat. That is her temperment. I see
that in her, too. Unless she has total control of her environment she is
antsy and anxious. If she sees other cats she goes frenetic.

In this new neighborhood there won't be stray cats waltzing around as proud
as you please so that's a plus. Still, to avoid problems, I want to close
off the kitchen some way. I thought about those accordion doors but couldn't
find 'em on the web. I'll ask at Home Depot.

Per my vet's instructions, we are trying Prozac. It's only been a few days.
I want to see what the minimum amount of Prozac is and how it affects her.
My vet advises that side effects are minimal. We'll see. My vet tells me
that she has worked with cats that like to urinate for territorial reasons
and Prozac has been successful in stopping the behavior.

The move: when I emptied my old house and Isis discovered the 'empty' of it
all she had some problems. It took her a couple of days to get back to
normal. Then, smack out of the box, I checked her into the Crystal Lake
Veterinary Hospital for boarding. The people there are very attentive and
concerned about the welfare of the pets they board. When I got her back she
was under the influence of Prozac so I backed off on that.

For the first day she just stayed in her room with her kitty nest and open
door cage. The second day she stayed there, too. Yesterday she started
exploring. She went to each room, slept in it for a few hours, and then went
to another. I think the sleeping thing was establishing ownership.

Now she's fine. She's back to normal and is busily putting her cheek
pheromones on everything in sight.

Mike in Illinois

>> In reply to my own message, I'm not finding what I think I need on the
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> Diana
Diana - 05 May 2007 20:08 GMT
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> Now she's fine. She's back to normal and is busily putting her cheek
> pheromones on everything in sight.

Ah, good news.  She'll soon  have the new place smelling just right.  
Speaking of which, I hope the Prozac is satisfactory, but if for any
reason you decide to try something else, Feliway spray works pretty well
for that territorial anxiety stuff (but maybe you've been there, done
that.)

Happy Cinco de Mayo.

Diana
Mike - 05 May 2007 20:20 GMT
I talked to my vet about Feliway. She said she was unimpressed with the
results. She said that you'd have to put a bunch of the dispensers (they
make them that you can plug into the wall outlets) all over the house
because their coverage area was so small.

I don't like giving drugs to Isis but I really have no choice. I'm going to
keep it to the bare minimum. I get a small bottle with 15 50 ml doses for
$25.00. Maybe I can lighten the dose and spread out the costs.

I'm sure you're cat will do fine with her upcoming move. I'd guess it will
two or three days of hiding behind a door and then BOOM, out she'll come and
start running the joint. They're such tough guys when they have it down. As
soon as you change something they fold up. <-:

Resilient little critters. <-:

Mike in Illinois

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MaryL - 06 May 2007 12:50 GMT
>I talked to my vet about Feliway. She said she was unimpressed with the
>results. She said that you'd have to put a bunch of the dispensers (they
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> Mike in Illinois

I also think Feliway is a good idea, but I certainly would not tamper with
the strength -- much better to have only two or three dispensers
strategically located in areas where Isis possibly could see other cats than
to dilute the strength to a point where it would probably be ineffective.
You said your vet is "unimpressed" with Feliway, and it certainly is not a
cure-all.  Actually, there have been a variety of responses to Feliway --  
from extremely helpful to no reaction at all.  You won't know until you try
it.  I used Feliway when I brought Duffy into our household and introduced
him to Holly (formerly *very* aggressive toward any other cat), and it was
very effective.  Here is a study done by researchers at The Ohio State
University:  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/11/001129074611.htm

MaryL
philo - 05 May 2007 19:22 GMT
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>     Does anyone have any suggestions?

Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
Mike - 05 May 2007 20:22 GMT
> Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
> some cat's can jump as high as six feet!

I think you're right, philo. Isis is about 10 years old now. She might get a
brain message telling her that a 4 foot jump is no problem, try it, and get
all hung up. I'm going to find one of those accordion doors.

Thanks.

Mike in Illinois

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> Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
> some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
Barbara - 05 May 2007 20:51 GMT
We had an accordian door, and Nightshade figured out how to open it :( Took
it down and put a regular door on it with a round knob, not lever handle. He
knows how to open those,too. We have a lever handle on the bathroom, now I
have to lock it when I go in there because the big snot opens it and comes
on it.

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>> Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
>> some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
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>> some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
philo - 05 May 2007 23:32 GMT
> > Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
> > some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
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> Mike in Illinois

An accordian door???

does your cat know how to play one???

(My version of humor, you know)
Barbara - 06 May 2007 00:12 GMT
Very funny...I needed the joke.

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philo - 06 May 2007 00:29 GMT
> Very funny...I needed the joke.

I'm glad you thought it was funny...
but my poor girlfriend must endure my bad jokes 7 days a week...
I'd hate to be in her shoes :)
Mike - 06 May 2007 00:25 GMT
No, but she'll expect me to shut down my business and teach her how. And I
will. Sigh.

Mike in Illinois

> An accordian door???
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> does your cat know how to play one???

>> > Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
>> > some cat's can jump as high as six feet!
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> (My version of humor, you know)
philo - 06 May 2007 00:29 GMT
> No, but she'll expect me to shut down my business and teach her how. And I
> will. Sigh.

The worst cat screech is nothing compared to a cat playing an accordian :)
Mike - 06 May 2007 00:43 GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ860P4iTaM

I'm going to buy a piano now.

Mike in Illinois

>> No, but she'll expect me to shut down my business and teach her how. And
>> I
>> will. Sigh.
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> The worst cat screech is nothing compared to a cat playing an accordian :)
philo - 06 May 2007 01:18 GMT
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ860P4iTaM
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> I'm going to buy a piano now.

:)   !!!!

> Mike in Illinois
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William Graham - 06 May 2007 00:49 GMT
>> Hi, guys.
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> Basically you'll have to keep the door closed...
> some cat's can jump as high as six feet!

Yes. I'd install a real, normal people door with a cat door in it. Cat doors
come with a sliding piece that blocks it off when you don't want them to go
out, or through the door in any direction. - If you install your own door,
then you can cut holes in it as you please.......
MaryL - 06 May 2007 13:00 GMT
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> Mike in Illinois

Drs. Foster and Smith sell a variety of good-quality pet gates.  My sister
bought two and actually mounted one on top of the other to completely fill
the doorway.  Their online catalog shows two gates that can be combined
side-by-side to extend the width.  They also have a hi-guard gate that might
meet your specifications if you could mount a panel to reduce the width of
your existing doorway (the hi-guard mounts in spaces up to 41" wide).
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/NavResults.cfm?N=0&Np=1&Ntt=gate&Ntx=mode+
matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Nty=1&pc=1


or: http://tinyurl.com/2e7axr

MaryL
Mike - 06 May 2007 18:56 GMT
Hi.

   I looked at the gates. Wouldn't it be possible for a cat to squeeze
through the vertical openings? It seems like it would.

Thank you, Mary.

Mike in Illinois

> Drs. Foster and Smith sell a variety of good-quality pet gates.  My sister
> bought two and actually mounted one on top of the other to completely fill
> the doorway.  Their online catalog shows two gates that can be combined
> side-by-side to extend the width.

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> MaryL
MaryL - 06 May 2007 19:21 GMT
I think they have some specifically for cats.  My sister's had a type of
mesh covering, so it might be worth a phone call to them.

MaryL

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>> MaryL
Mike - 07 May 2007 14:52 GMT
Thanks, Mary. <-:

   Mike in Illinois

>I think they have some specifically for cats.  My sister's had a type of
>mesh covering, so it might be worth a phone call to them.
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William Graham - 07 May 2007 21:00 GMT
"Cat gate".....Wasn't that the scandal where the president was keeping too
many cats in the white house?
Nicolaas Hawkins - 07 May 2007 22:09 GMT
> "Cat gate".....Wasn't that the scandal where the president was keeping too
> many cats in the white house?

Yes, but being a tiger for pun-ishment, he kept lion about it.

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