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Cat Forum / General Topics / April 2007Kitty Litter Disposal Problem
We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for years. Several months ago our town contracted with a different waste disposal contractor. This last week, the garbage men came by and left the bags of litter behind. We checked with the town (they contract garbage removal) and "fecal material" is on "the list" of goodies that they don't accept. I suspect that "the list" reference to "fecal material" (at least should) refer(s) to human fecal material and that our trash collectors are expanding the definition to cover kitty litter. I had looked into flushable litter and a note on one of the web sites states that California discourages flushable litter in their sewage disposal systems and wants kitty litter placed in with one's garbage. We live in upstate New York. Does anyone have any insight into this sort of problem? Thanks. apply rot13 to: serggr@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz > We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in > our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > serggr@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz Can't you just flush the poo-poo? That's what I do - there isn't much litter attached. Maybe my kitten knows... I make a big deal out of it, kind of like trying to get a human toddler to get the idea that poo-poo belong in the potty... Besides, how's the government going to know it's your little bits of kitty litter in the sewage? JMHO. Kathy >Can't you just flush the poo-poo? That's what I do - there isn't much >litter attached. Maybe my kitten knows... I make a big deal out of it, >kind of like trying to get a human toddler to get the idea that poo-poo >belong in the potty... Besides, how's the government going to know it's >your little bits of kitty litter in the sewage? Maybe they'll know when they have to dig up the street to find what is blocking the system? (For the record my mother had something blocking the sewer line, it costs her about $40,000 to have the city dig up the street and unclog the sewer line. She never did find out what caused the blockage. And no....insurance didn't cover it. It also didn't cover the hundreds of thousands in damage when twenty houses in the area were flooded.) >>Can't you just flush the poo-poo? That's what I do - there isn't much >>litter attached. Maybe my kitten knows... I make a big deal out of it, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the hundreds of thousands in damage when twenty houses in the area > were flooded.) Well, I don't know where she lived, but everywhere I have lived, if the blockage is beyond my property line, then it is the city's responsibility to clear it. The idea that it would cost a homeowner 40 grand to clear a blockage on his own property is ridiculous, unless you are Bill Gates. The last time I had to call Roto Rooter to snake out my sewer line, the cost was only about $50, and I can remember then of looking up the price of one of their 200 foot snake machines and pondering over whether I would be better off buying it........ Besides, how's the government going to know it's > your little bits of kitty litter in the sewage? > JMHO. > Kathy Exactly....The only thing more ridiculous than unenforceable laws is people worrying over unenforceable laws......Unenforceable laws were made to be broken, and it is the responsibility, not the right, of good men to break them. >Besides, how's the government going to know it's >> your little bits of kitty litter in the sewage? >> JMHO. >> Kathy When that little bit of litter clogs the sewer pipe and they have to dig up the road in front of your house to fix it? That heppened to my mother who had the sewer line in front of her house flood about 20 yards in the neighborhood. They never found what caused it in this case but who knows if that will be the case the next time it happens. (Lets see xxxxx clogs the sewer lines......it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find it had to be one of the two dozens of houses on that sewer line.) >Exactly....The only thing more ridiculous than unenforceable laws is people >worrying over unenforceable laws......Unenforceable laws were made to be >broken, and it is the responsibility, not the right, of good men to break >them. > We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in > our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for > years. Several months ago our town contracted with a different waste > disposal contractor. Can you toss it into a public dumpster that you may drive past on a regular basis? Say, something like a park or some other public venue? I used to toss mine into the dumpster of a small grocery store that I did regular business with but not before first asking the owner and ...... errr..... I told him one bag of refuse, never did say it was kitty poopy litter. >Can you toss it into a public dumpster that you may drive past on >a regular basis? Just be forewarned it may be monitored. Our city had a big problem with illegal dumping. A number of closed circuit TV cameras cured the problem. Oh and around here it is illegal, since our towns have a trash fee and they consider it evading the trash fee. Also if it is illegal they may trace it back to it's source. (we had a huge fire in a local trash facility caused by illegal disposal of propane. You can bet they'll find the source of that propane. Especially where a number of people died and alot of property was damaged.) Remember cameras are everywhere, Big Brother is watching. >>Can you toss it into a public dumpster that you may drive past on >>a regular basis? > Just be forewarned it may be monitored. Our city had a big problem > with illegal dumping. A number of closed circuit TV cameras cured > the problem. Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? Our city has a big problem with illegal aliens. Do you think TV surveillance would help? > Oh and around here it is illegal, since our towns have > a trash fee and they consider it evading the trash fee. Thanks. Didn't know that and will keep an eye out for the "trash fee" police. > Also if it is illegal they may trace it back to it's source. > (we had a huge fire in a local trash facility caused by > illegal disposal of propane. You can bet they'll find > the source of that propane. Especially where a number > of people died and alot of property was damaged.) Oh my, pity the detective that has to trace the kitty crap back to its source. He must have a *shitty* job. Is there propane gas in kitty crap? > Remember cameras are everywhere, Big Brother is watching. Such is life in the Soviet Union. Perhaps you can one day become a U.S. citizen? >>>Can you toss it into a public dumpster that you may drive past on >>>a regular basis? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Such is life in the Soviet Union. Perhaps you can one day > become a U.S. citizen? America - the land of the free..... BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  SignatureNicolaas >Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? My understanding is when a violatin was found they'd call the city police who would make arrests. >Our city has a big problem with illegal aliens. >Do you think TV surveillance would help? You do realize that in London England you're got TV cameras recording you THREE HUNDRED TIMES A DAY. That came out in the wake of the subway threat last year. >Thanks. Didn't know that and will keep an eye out for >the "trash fee" police. Our town marks those who don't pay the trash fee with a large "NTP" spray painted on the sidewalk. Those who don't pay have a lein placed against their house and aren't allowed to put out trash or take it to the dump. The town slapped us with the trash fee after a property tax increase was shot down. Bills go through the water department. >Such is life in the Soviet Union. Perhaps you can one day >become a U.S. citizen? This is a large east coast city in the US of A. We pay a water,sewage and trash fee every two months. Per kitty litter disposal...I put mine in bags in with my regular trash. What are they going to do? Root through it to see if I have litter waste in there? Be my guest! SignatureBarb >>Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? > My understanding is when a violatin was found they'd call the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>become a U.S. citizen? > This is a large east coast city in the US of A. > We pay a water,sewage and trash fee every two months. Per kitty litter > disposal...I put mine in bags in with my regular trash. What are they > going to do? Root through it to see if I have litter waste in there? Be my > guest! You're lucky you don't live in Mr Barnabas's town. They take that sort of thing quite seriously. >> We pay a water,sewage and trash fee every two months. Per kitty litter >> disposal...I put mine in bags in with my regular trash. What are they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You're lucky you don't live in Mr Barnabas's town. They take that sort >of thing quite seriously. Bear in mind many of the cities and towns i've lived in the past years all contract their trash collection to a private corporation. So when they drop off a full truck load they know that truck load came from the houses along main street. That already pinpoints it down to maybe 30-40 houses. Look for a bill with your name on it near by and they pinpoint where that item came from. And if you're working at xxxxxxxx trash collection company and there is an explosion and fire because someone disposed of some prohibited item and it killed several people you don't think they're going to go over that stuff with a fine tooth comb to find who killed these people? Yeah it maybe a dirty job but someone dead from the illegal disposal of something is a heck of incentive for the police to find the culprit. A couple of weeks a ago someone disposed of propane in a nearby town and the result was a fire that caused alot of damage and killed a nummber of people. >>> We pay a water,sewage and trash fee every two months. Per kitty litter >>> disposal...I put mine in bags in with my regular trash. What are they [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > a nearby town and the result was a fire that caused > alot of damage and killed a nummber of people. It's a pretty big jump from Propane, (which is a highly flammable substance) and kitty litter. No reasonable person would pour propane or gasoline down the drain, but kitty litter? I seldom use it, but when I do, it goes out in the garbage in a paper bag, just like my other garbage.....The garbage police haven't gunned me down yet......... > Bear in mind many of the cities and towns i've lived in the past years > all contract their trash collection to a private corporation. So > when they drop off a full truck load they know that truck load > came from the houses along main street. That already pinpoints it > down to maybe 30-40 houses. Look for a bill with your name on it > near by and they pinpoint where that item came from. Good job! Nothing like an accurate record keeping, when it comes to garbage!. > And if you're working at xxxxxxxx trash collection company > and there is an explosion and fire because someone disposed of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > someone dead from the illegal disposal of something is a heck > of incentive for the police to find the culprit. I had no idea the kitty poop would generate that much explosive gas? >>Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? > My understanding is when a violatin was found they'd call the > city police who would make arrests. Yes, they should, considering such a serious crime! >>Our city has a big problem with illegal aliens. >>Do you think TV surveillance would help? > You do realize that in London England you're got TV > cameras recording you THREE HUNDRED TIMES A DAY. Wow! That beats us here in the USA. For us to be on TV cameras that much, we would have to fight to get on the American Idol TV show. > That came out in the wake of the subway threat last year. Is there a problem with people dumping used kitty litter in the subways? >>Thanks. Didn't know that and will keep an eye out for >>the "trash fee" police. > Our town marks those who don't pay the trash fee with > a large "NTP" spray painted on the sidewalk. Does your town also mark Jewish homes with the Star of David? I think Hitler found that to be an effective way to identify certain people. > Those who don't pay have a lein placed against their > house and aren't allowed to put out trash or take > it to the dump. Serves them right for not dumping used kitty litter in the proper location. > The town slapped us with the trash fee after a > property tax increase was shot down. Does the 'trash fee' help keep White Trash out of your town? > Bills go through the water department. >>Such is life in the Soviet Union. Perhaps you can one day >>become a U.S. citizen? > This is a large east coast city in the US of A. I bet they raise your Trash Fee again next year. I am not the only one who does this. Every cat owner I know of in my town does this. After all, isnt poop biodegradable?? SignatureBarb > >>>Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > I bet they raise your Trash Fee again next year. >> I bet they raise your Trash Fee again next year. They probably will since our town will not vote to let them override Prop 2 1/2. (limits property taxes.) So we got our property tax incease anyways. Only in this case they're calling it a trash fee. Prop 2 1/2 limits property taxes to 2.5 % of $1,000 valuation, similar to California did a number of years ago. >>> I bet they raise your Trash Fee again next year. > They probably will since our town will not vote to let > them override Prop 2 1/2. (limits property taxes.) > > So we got our property tax incease anyways. Only > in this case they're calling it a trash fee. That's pretty trashy on the government's part. >>>>Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? Bear in mind it falls in the category of "raising revenue." All that more important when the taxpayer refuse to allow them to incraase property taxes. >>>>>Wow! What's the pay rate for the *dumpster TV police* ? > > Bear in mind it falls in the category of "raising revenue." > > All that more important when the taxpayer refuse to allow > them to incraase property taxes. My sincere advice is to move up here to Oregon. We have no sales tax at all, and very reasonable property and income taxes. Our DMV fees are only about $26 a year per vehicle, whether you drive a Chevvy or a Rolls Royce......The only problem is that those California Liberals are moving up here in droves every year, so it's only a matter of time before our taxes go through the roof....A liberal never saw a tax that he didn't love......... >>>>Our city has a big problem with illegal aliens. >>>>Do you think TV surveillance would help? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> cameras that much, we would have to fight to get on >> the American Idol TV show. Bear in mind you're on TV every time you go into a store, donut shop, bank, and many other places. It would be so easy to set up a camera in front of your house to monitor things, and then there is the camera in your cell phone. Oh and as far as having cameras monitoring the trash? Heck it's alot cheaper to pay a $100 bucks to hook a camera up to your computer than it is to pay $1500 to dispose of the trash some stranger left on your doorstep. Alot of towns charge by the amount of trash you throw out, and if you're a business, you're probably paying $300+ to get your dumpster emptied. So if i'm a business and I get socked with a $5,000 bill to dump someone elses trash you don't think i'm going to spend a $100 to find out who is sticking me with their trash bill? > Bear in mind you're on TV every time you go into a store, > donut shop, bank, and many other places. It would be > so easy to set up a camera in front of your house > to monitor things, and then there is the camera > in your cell phone. And just think, George Orwell (1984) predicted all this in 1949! Except, he didn't mention the garbage police, a simple oversight no doubt. >> Bear in mind you're on TV every time you go into a store, >> donut shop, bank, and many other places. It would be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 1949! Except, he didn't mention the garbage police, a > simple oversight no doubt. Yes....Even Orwell couldn't imagine that the liberals would go that far........:^) >>> Bear in mind you're on TV every time you go into a store, >>> donut shop, bank, and many other places. It would be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Yes....Even Orwell couldn't imagine that the liberals would go that > far........:^) The Clinton Machine is just warming up. She's bloated with fresh cash. >>>> Bear in mind you're on TV every time you go into a store, >>>> donut shop, bank, and many other places. It would be [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The Clinton Machine is just warming up. She's bloated with > fresh cash. One of the reasons why I like cats so much, is that they are very conservative......:^) >I am not the only one who does this. Every cat owner I know of in my town >does this. After all, isnt poop biodegradable?? Does anyone know where they are not allowing cat litter in the trash? And why? This is the only case i've heard of it. Got a URL? No URL. The trash collection folks have a flyer that states that they will not pick up fecal material. I believe that disposing of "human" fecal material in home refuse is prohibited - Typhoid Mary scenario - but Kitty Litter is a bit of a reach. As I mentioned ion my first note, CA "wants" it there... BFI "never" had a problem with Kitty Litter. >>I am not the only one who does this. Every cat owner I know of in my town >>does this. After all, isnt poop biodegradable?? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Got a URL? > No URL. The trash collection folks have a flyer that states that they > will not pick up fecal material. I believe that disposing of "human" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >>Got a URL? This must only be a problem in heavily populated urban areas....In the suburbs, most cats are outside cats and they just go in flower gardens and the like where cats have gone for thousands of years......Even if I lived in the city and had kitty litter to dispose of, I think I could use it up in wooden and concrete planters in my patios and roofs of apartment buildings, and the like. After all, flowers and other plants live off of that stuff. I have known inside cats that went in their owners potted plants, and if they had enough potted plants, it posed no problem....... We live in a rural area on a small lake. Disposing of the fecal material is not as much of a problem as the clumping litter. At any given time we have 20 - 30 cats. We tame ferals and take in strays. All are inside only and all are neutered. "World's Best Cat Litter" is not exactly an option as it is 3 times the cost at an area merchant. But it would make the trip through a digester without messing it up. I am going to have a look at local and state legislation and see what I can find out. I am hoping that in the end the trash collectors will take it. >> No URL. The trash collection folks have a flyer that states that they >> will not pick up fecal material. I believe that disposing of "human" [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >have known inside cats that went in their owners potted plants, and if they >had enough potted plants, it posed no problem....... >Yes, they should, considering such a serious crime! Well it is when it is a prohibited item like Propane and kills a few people when it burns in a fire. Did you ever stop to think what happens to your trash after it leaves your curbside? Here is a thought: maybe it goes to BFI headquarters where automated equipment identifies the blocks it came from (you figure one truck load is maybe 30-40 houses), then maybe it goes on a conveyer belt and automated equipment identifies what is being disposed of? >>>Our city has a big problem with illegal aliens. >>>Do you think TV surveillance would help? [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >I bet they raise your Trash Fee again next year. >>Yes, they should, considering such a serious crime! > Well it is when it is a prohibited item like Propane [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > it goes on a conveyer belt and automated equipment > identifies what is being disposed of? Actually, I think the government should get even more serious about trash. They should analyze your trash to find out what your lifestyle is. I guess that is why the Democrats are so upset. I hear Haliburton has the government contract to do garbage analysis. >>>Yes, they should, considering such a serious crime! >> Well it is when it is a prohibited item like Propane [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I hear Haliburton has the government contract to do garbage > analysis. When trash analysis to ascertain your lifestyle starts, it will be the politically correct liberals who do it, just to keep you from getting away with something without paying your fair share of taxes on it.......As a matter of fact, those rich enough to have more than two cats will have to pay several times as much per cat, or Robin Hood will get them when they try to go through Sherwood forest..... >>>>Yes, they should, considering such a serious crime! >>> Well it is when it is a prohibited item like Propane [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > pay several times as much per cat, or Robin Hood will get them when they > try to go through Sherwood forest..... Ever wonder who the Democrats consider rich? Ans: Anyone who has a job. > Ever wonder who the Democrats consider rich? > Ans: Anyone who has a job. What stupid, off-topic bullshit. PROVE IT. I changed the header to put it back on your new topic. If you voted Republican you have blood on your hands. SHAME ON YOU. For every pet protection act passed in Congress, you have a Liberal to thank. Want to verify? JG Signature"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum" -- Lucretius "Jaime G" <nobody@mixmin.net> pissed & moaned & whined, then wrote nothing of importance in a message: /////Psycho - Babble FLUSHED ////// > /////Psycho - Babble FLUSHED ////// You started it, insulting Liberals. Want to talk about politics, there are a bunch of newsgroups. Now, shall we talk about cats? JG Signature"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum" -- Lucretius >> /////Psycho - Babble FLUSHED ////// > >You started it, insulting Liberals. Want to talk about politics, there >are a bunch of newsgroups. Now, shall we talk about cats? > >JG Come on kiddies - fight nice !! ***************************************************** E-mail address altered to foil spam. Reply to news groups for all to see please. _ / ) (\__/) ( ( ) ( ) ) ={ }= / / ) `-------/ / ( / \ | ,'\ , ,' `-'\ ,---\ | \ _) ) `. \ / (__/ ) ) (_/ (\__/) )oo( ={ >}= ***************************************************** > You started it, insulting Liberals. Want to talk ///SNIP//// tsk tsk tsk tsk ......... left wing Democreep loons The Democrat party is invested in the defeat of their country. >We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in >our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for >years. Several months ago our town contracted with a different waste >disposal contractor. I'd check with City Hall. I had a house a number of years ago that was 95 years old, the pipes were too old to even think of trying to flush litter. I wouldn't put it in the toilet, unless you like the local plumber alot and want to fund their college education. Ultimately you may have to treat it they we have to treat electronic waste (monitors, etc.)....that is they only accept them at one location in town Saturdays form 10-12. And they may charge for it. (we get it free since the hazardous waste company has a location in our town.) I wasn't planning on flushing. I was hoping that someone had some experience with Town administration or ordinances governing the disposal of kitty litter. California seems to want it placed in municipal trash. Given that CA often takes the lead in environmental issues, I was hoping that I could pick up some data that would aid me when I go after the town and/or trash company. Lee >>We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in >>our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >it. (we get it free since the hazardous waste company has a location >in our town.) apply rot13 to: serggr@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz >I wasn't planning on flushing. So you're planning on putting it in the toilet to just sit there smell and clog the pipes? BTW, does your city or town liscense cats? That may dictate where and how to deposit the waste ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY KNOW YOU HAVE CATS. >I was hoping that someone had some experience with Town administration >or ordinances governing the disposal of kitty litter. California seems >to want it placed in municipal trash. Given that CA often takes the >lead in environmental issues, I was hoping that I could pick up some >data that would aid me when I go after the town and/or trash company. Check with your local town. Every town i've lived in has different trash policies. Depends on the people running your town and how they run their fifedom. Bear in mind state and national regulations enter into this as do concerns about hazardous waste, landfills that are filled to brim, and the shear quantity of trash disposed of each year. I'm older than dirt, i've lived in alot of cities and towns over the years. Each one has their own peculiar rules. >>I wasn't planning on flushing. > So you're planning on putting it in the toilet to just sit there [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and how to deposit the waste ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY KNOW YOU > HAVE CATS. Good point! That's why the government is all for licensing schemes that include all firearms, so they know where to come to confiscate them once the U.S. Constitution is declared invalid. >>>I wasn't planning on flushing. >> So you're planning on putting it in the toilet to just sit there [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >include all firearms, so they know where to come to confiscate them once >the U.S. Constitution is declared invalid. Liscensing serves one purpose only: to raise revenue. Besides if they want to find out who has cats it would be so easy. 1. Look for people who have cats in the window. 2. Go down to the local store, get suvelience tapes and register receipts for whom ever buys cat litter/ cat food. 3. If you see a cat outside watch where it goes. 4. Get a list of clients from the local vet/groomers/ animal hospital/pet sitters/etc. Also never understimate the power of a disgruntled neighbor to drop a dime. >>>>I wasn't planning on flushing. >>> So you're planning on putting it in the toilet to just sit there [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Also never understimate the power of a disgruntled neighbor > to drop a dime. Definitely. They could start a neighborhood surveillance system, where neighbors would be encouraged to turn in each other for violation of the kitty litter laws. CA don't want you to fluch cat waste. They say to put it in the trash. >I wasn't planning on flushing. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > serggr@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz >CA don't want you to fluch cat waste. They say to put it in the trash. And probalby with good reason. Here we got about 4" of rain in the last 24 hours. Which means the sewers overflowed and alot of untreated waste went directly into the ocean. Happens everytime we get a downpour. >>CA don't want you to fluch cat waste. They say to put it in the trash. > And probalby with good reason. Here we got about 4" of rain in the > last 24 hours. Which means the sewers overflowed and alot of > untreated waste went directly into the ocean. > > Happens everytime we get a downpour. And it happened several thousand years ago, whenever there was a downpour, too. Cats, like all other animals , gotta go when they gotta go. So, it's part of the natural ecology of life. It's just like the forest fires....Thousands of years ago, long before there were forest rangers, fire watches, and air tankers, there were forest fires started by lightening strikes. These fires lasted for weeks or months and burned millions and millions of acres of trees, spewing millions of tons of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide into the air, causing global warming and the deaths of millions of little furry creatures. - How about them apples, huh? [snip] > I had looked into flushable litter and a note on one of > the web sites states that California discourages [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Does anyone have any insight into this sort of problem? See the thread "Cat Litter Poll" elsewhere in this group. http://www.worldsbestcatlitter.com/ may be what you're looking for..? It's not cheap but *can* be flushed with no risk of blockages. Ivor > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > looking for..? It's not cheap but *can* be flushed with > no risk of blockages. Replying to my own post, I saw you mentioned California and that it discourages flushable litter. If the site I mentioned is the one you're thinking of, this isn't actually the way I read it, I see it as they don't want you flushing the actual faeces, it doesn't say you can't flush the used *litter* itself. The way we use it at the shelter where I volunteer is we scoop out the poop and just top up the litter. The poop doesn't get flushed or put down the drains, it gets bagged in the normal way. Only used litter gets washed away when we wash out the trays. Hope this helps. Ivor >[snip] > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >http://www.worldsbestcatlitter.com/ may be what you're looking for..? It's >not cheap but *can* be flushed with no risk of blockages. I'd be leary about it. Years ago I had a house that was 95 years old. I wouldn't chance putting litte in the toilet with those old pipes. You could get Worlds Best Cat Litter, it is flushable and they say safe for septic tanks too. I believe it's made from corn. > We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in > our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > serggr@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz > You could get Worlds Best Cat Litter, it is flushable and they say safe > for septic tanks too. I believe it's made from corn. Or, you could just get a dog....:^) >> You could get Worlds Best Cat Litter, it is flushable and they say safe >> for septic tanks too. I believe it's made from corn. > >Or, you could just get a dog....:^) And then you can just let the dog loose on the neighbors yard and let them worry about cleaning it up. Or let your neigbor worry about the waste when it is on the snow pile and all that snow melts in the spring. Why should you not flush cat poop? What's the difference between it and human poop? Just curious... > Why should you not flush cat poop? What's the difference between it and > human poop? Just curious... I'm not sure but if you use a clay base litter and some gets flushed it could build up in the sewers and/or damage the lift pumps. I read that California wants cat waste in the trash rather than flushed on this site (near bottom of page): http://www.worldsbestcatlitter.com/faq.php?PHPSESSID=70480436280ea1819f9fb091433807da >Why should you not flush cat poop? What's the difference between it and >human poop? Just curious... When I had the 95 year old house, it wasn't the poop that I was concerned about. It was the litter. Especially with such old pipes. >>Why should you not flush cat poop? What's the difference between it and >>human poop? Just curious... > > When I had the 95 year old house, it wasn't the poop that I was > concerned about. It was the litter. Especially with such old > pipes. Yes. I wouldn't flush too much cat litter down the toilet....But the poop part is OK. So, the best thing to do is buy bio-degradable litter, like saw dust or redwood chips or some such thing, and flush only the cat poop down the toilet (if you must) and use the rest as mulch in your lawn or around your flower beds. In my case, my cats are outside cats, so they just go in the flower beds anyway, and it certainly doesn't hurt the flowers. I see people using truckloads of redwood chips on their flower beds to keep the weeds down. I wouldn't use that much kitty litter up in 20 years, even with four cats. So I really don't see much of an ecological problem with kitty litter...... W > Yes. I wouldn't flush too much cat litter down the toilet....But the poop > part is OK. So, the best thing to do is buy bio-degradable litter, like saw [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > four cats. So I really don't see much of an ecological problem with kitty > litter...... The one litter I got said not to use it as mulch because the urine in the litter would attract bad things to the garden (like stray cats fer instance) and the ammonia in it is not too good for the plants either.... Kathy > W >> Yes. I wouldn't flush too much cat litter down the toilet....But the poop [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > instance) and the ammonia in it is not too good for the plants either.... > Kathy Yes, but don't forget that the kitty litter manufacturers have an ax to grind....They are in the business of making and selling kitty litter, so they will discourage anyone from just using dirt, or from letting their cats just go in the garden.....I have four cats and they stick pretty close to my house even though they are outside cats...They go in my garden almost exclusively, and I haven't found any dead flowers yet. > We normally double bag our used clumping kitty litter and place it in > our normal trash cans or in kitty litter buckets and have done so for [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thanks. Throw in on the street in front of the police station, or on the freeway, or the mayors front lawn or ??? If enough people do that, then the garbage collectors will start taking it PDQ........ >Throw in on the street in front of the police station, or on the freeway, or >the mayors front lawn or ??? If enough people do that, then the garbage >collectors will start taking it PDQ........ Or you'll get a ticket for littering. $200-$500 a pop depeding on the town. Not to mention if you do it in front of the mayors house you'll get arrested for who knows what. BTW, here if you dump it on the freeway, smile.....you're on candid camera. The entire length is monitored by cameras.. >>Throw in on the street in front of the police station, or on the freeway, >>or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > BTW, here if you dump it on the freeway, smile.....you're on candid > camera. The entire length is monitored by cameras.. I've got some nice .22 rifles that could take care of that problem, too........ But a far better way is to dump it anyway, only with a garage-sale license plate on your car, so their "tickets" will go to never-never land....That also works for those cameras that "catch" speeders by taking flash photos of them when they go through tunnels and the like. It is also a great solution for parking tickets. At one time, I was half way through papering the walls of my room with parking tickets I received in Sausalito, a little resort-type town North of San Francisco. They were fond of ticketing the parked cars of the tourists every hour, so if you parked there for several hours while shopping (and spending your money with the merchants of the town, by the way) you would pick up several tickets at like $20 each. Well, my garage sale license plates worked real well there.....I figure I saved several thousand dollars by putting them on my car/motorcycle before visiting that town. The principal, in general, is really very simple. Just make sure that it costs the liberal police more money to catch you than it's worth when they do. They will decide to back off pretty quick...... > Or you'll get a ticket for littering. $200-$500 a pop depeding on > the town. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > BTW, here if you dump it on the freeway, smile.....you're on candid > camera. The entire length is monitored by cameras.. Didn't AlGore mention in his movie "The Inconvenient Truth" that it is possible to get -carbon credits- which would enable one to dispose to kitty litter? Then again........naaaaaaa......... AlGore is full of sh.. errrrr poop. > This last week, the garbage men came by and left the bags of litter > behind. How do they know what is in your garbage bag? I just bag mine in opaque garbage bags and put it out. Signature"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum" -- Lucretius >> This last week, the garbage men came by and left the bags of litter >> behind. > > How do they know what is in your garbage bag? I just bag mine in opaque > garbage bags and put it out. Yes....I'd look for some large "See's candy bags"....:^) >> This last week, the garbage men came by and left the bags of litter >> behind. > > How do they know what is in your garbage bag? I just bag mine in opaque > garbage bags and put it out. Mr Barnabas says where he lives the trash police examine the contents of your trash and can trace it right back to its origin! >>> This last week, the garbage men came by and left the bags of litter >>> behind. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Mr Barnabas says where he lives the trash police examine the > contents of your trash and can trace it right back to its origin! The only way they can do that is if you leave some papers with your name or address on them in your trash....So, the thing to do is raid the mayor's trash can and get some old envelopes or papers with his name on them, and put it in the bag with your kitty litter....Then they will bring the kitty litter to the mayor's house.....:^) Or, if you don't want to risk getting caught raiding the mayor's trash, forge an envelope with the mayor's address on it yourself, and leave it in your trash with the kitty litter.....Somehow I doubt that the FBI is going to spend very much time trying to figure out who the kitty litter belongs to........ Rush Limbaugh is America's Number One source of news and the truth. > Rush Limbaugh is America's Number One source of > news and the truth. About what, illegal Vicodin for junkies? Signature"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum" -- Lucretius "Jaime G" <nobody@mixmin.net> said nothing of any importance to anyone in a message: //drivel FLUSHED// >> Rush Limbaugh is America's Number One source of >> news and the truth. > > About what, illegal Vicodin for junkies? Old News. If you want to talk about Old News, lets discuss how Dan Rather faked, lied, and reported a false news story about Bush's national guard service, with the intent to influence a national election? Oh, I forgot, you liberal democreeps don't like to discuss that *old* story. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA > Rush Limbaugh is America's Number One source of > news and the truth. Rush Limbaugh is America's number one source of hot air and fertilizer. >> Rush Limbaugh is America's Number One source of >> news and the truth. > > Rush Limbaugh is America's number one source of hot air and fertilizer. Yeah, and he is so concerned about what you think of him that he laughs all the way to the bank! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > Rush Limbaugh is America's number one source of hot air and fertilizer. Must be a heck of a good hot air & fertilizer, when you consider he is now carried on over 600 radio stations, podcast daily on the internet, broadcast daily on high-frequency radio (short wave for stupid liberals), carried on satellite radio, AND carried on Armed Force Radio to our military men & women worldwide. Errrrr, you liberals keep claiming that you *support our troops* don't you? Limbaugh was voted 'Number One' top show on Armed Forces Radio by our military men and women! Below Space reserved for liberals & Democreeps to whine: Start here: |
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