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Anon - 31 Mar 2007 20:43 GMT
This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
"premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap brands.
When buying these "premium" brands at an inflated price I was getting the
same crap as WalMart's Special Kitty which sold for half the price.

Does anyone know of a cat food brand that is really made by premium
ingredients?

Anon
Diana - 31 Mar 2007 23:20 GMT
> This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
> "premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap brands.
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>
> Anon

I don't think it's exactly a scam, Anon, although I too was taken by
surprise to find out how many of those brands supplied by Menu Foods
were premium brands.  My understanding of the way it works is that the
client company submits their recipe to the manufacturer, and the
manufacturer follows it.  Unless Menu is outright lying (and I believe
they would have ever so much more to lose that to gain by lying) they
follow a large number of different recipes.  

If you compare brands by ingredient list, you find that the premium
brands don't use so many by products and nutritionally "iffy" things
like chicken feet--not that they ever would come out and actually SAY
chicken feet--as do many of the less expensive brands.  Some of the
house brands measure up pretty closely, though.  There's probably less
difference than the premium companies would like us to believe.

To be a careful shopper, you just have to research what all those
ingredient terms mean.  But I have NO IDEA how to avoid the problem of
contamination, especially of ingredients purchased on the international
market.  Premiums are not immune to getting contaminated ingredients;
neither is the food we humans eat.  It's a scary world.  I totally
understand why some people are doing home-cooked pet food, but you know
what?  A lot of people do not do their homework on their pets'
nutritional needs nearly as well as the pet food companies have done,
and some of those animals will not be better off.  It's a very complex
problem, this food thing.  A lot of us are vacillating between near
paranoia and denial when it comes to grocery shopping.

Sorry that this likely doesn't help much, but I think it's the real deal.

Diana
Anon - 01 Apr 2007 04:44 GMT
>> This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
>> "premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap
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>
> Diana

I have 2 dogs and 2 cats, I have always bought them what I considered
Premium brands because I had thought the cheap brands contained more
ingredients from the rendering plants (
http://jivdaya.org/rendering_plants.htm ). Now I believe that it may all
come from the same pot with different packaging and labels. I feel just like
I felt when I found out that all the gasoline in my area came from the same
big tanks and frequently was delivered to the local stations in the same
trucks.

The pet food companies take great pains to provide a nutritionally complete
diet but make it from substandard ingredients. I'm still looking for a brand
that uses premium ingredients.

Anon
dave - 01 Apr 2007 08:24 GMT
> In article <wbydnX1-7o9XJJPbnZ2dnUVZ_tyin...@giganews.com>,

>My understanding of the way it works is that the
> client company submits their recipe to the manufacturer, and the
> manufacturer follows it.

Apparently they forgot to tell them to leave out the Chinese poison.
7sees7@gmail.com - 02 Apr 2007 10:40 GMT
<snip>

> A lot of people do not do their homework on their pets'
> nutritional needs nearly as well as the pet food companies have done,

<snip>

Im wondering about this in relation to cat nutrition.

I know a lot of studies have been done on dogs because they are
'working' animals. But I imagine there would be little 'pay off' in
studies on cats (other than big cats in zoos etc) & little data I
imagine on 'performance' etc. I dont know. Im just wondering if
someone has any knowledge of actual data on cat nutrition that we can
use to guide us in preparing food for our cats ourselves.
Anon - 02 Apr 2007 10:52 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> someone has any knowledge of actual data on cat nutrition that we can
> use to guide us in preparing food for our cats ourselves.

Since cats are carnivorous animals, I don't see how you could go wrong
feeding them meat or mostly meat with maybe a little rice.
kuhnfucius - 01 Apr 2007 00:33 GMT
If you or I would eat it, well then I would call it premium.  Premium or
not, one food my cats have always enjoyed were live mice from the pet
store...add bow at Christmas.
But I have had the worry that they would get some virus from this moving
dish....so I stopped.   They may go back on the menu.  If my cats could
talk, they would want them more than the Deadly Kitty brand.
> This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
> "premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap brands.
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>
> Anon
dinkmeister - 01 Apr 2007 10:11 GMT
I think the somewhat premium (iams) is good, kittys sh.t hardly smells
and is perfect - it dont make a mess in the litter box.  if I feed him the
super cheap meow mix, his sh.t stinks up the entire house and its
nasty and runny looking, no joke....

:This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
:"premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap brands.
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:
:Anon
Anon - 01 Apr 2007 10:32 GMT
>I think the somewhat premium (iams) is good, kittys sh.t hardly smells
> and is perfect - it dont make a mess in the litter box.  if I feed him the
> super cheap meow mix, his sh.t stinks up the entire house and its
> nasty and runny looking, no joke....

I think Iams is one of the brands that was recalled, made by menu foods.

> :This contaminated pet food crisis has made me aware that many so called
> :"premium" pet food brands are made with the same crap as the cheap
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> :
> :Anon
Nicolaas Hawkins - 01 Apr 2007 10:50 GMT
>Does anyone know of a cat food brand that is really made by premium
>ingredients?

I should imagine it would more likely be made by people or machines.

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dinkmeister - 01 Apr 2007 14:23 GMT
yes but not the stuff my cat eats

:>I think the somewhat premium (iams) is good, kittys sh.t hardly smells
:> and is perfect - it dont make a mess in the litter box.  if I feed him the
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:> :Anon
Jaime G - 02 Apr 2007 06:54 GMT
> Does anyone know of a cat food brand that is really made by premium
> ingredients?

Very unscientifically, I look for canned food whose first ingredient is
fish. Right now I'm having good luck with two flavors of Friskies. If
the first ingredient is water, then I don't buy it. I have tried lots of
foods, and I pretty much judge their quality based on the output, as it
were, of my 15-year-old and 13-year-old cats. Right now they have stable
habits, good output, and are very active, so that's what they get to
eat. I have changed foods once every couple years in reaction to changes
in the cat box.

JG
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7sees7@gmail.com - 02 Apr 2007 10:34 GMT
I think one of the biggest problems with this is that the word
'Premium' as used by these manufacturers has no definition. A lot of
people seem to equate it with being made from ingredients that would
be graded as fit for human consumption & unfortunately as we now see,
this is not the case.
 
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