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Cat Forum / General Topics / September 2006does anybody feed their cat live mice?
my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to chase around the house and catching it and eating it? > my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to > chase around the house and catching it and eating it? No, that would be mean and cruel against the mouse! I'm chocked that someone suggest things like that!! Instead you should play with your cat. I think you should not have a cat in the first place. A real animallover, loves all animals, not just cats. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Om førtidspensionisterne Kenn Rosenkranz og Bo Warming http://farligatdrikke.tripod.com/ || my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to || chase around the house and catching it and eating it? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | Om førtidspensionisterne Kenn Rosenkranz og Bo Warming | http://farligatdrikke.tripod.com/ Oyez My Uncle Jim has a couple of Puma's but he always gives them food that has already been killed, living in Wales he has to be careful they do not go too far but fortunately there are no sheep living local to him. There is a ditch with water partially surrounding his property. Oyez hate to break the news to you, but people buy live mice to feed their pet snakes all the time. > > my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to > > chase around the house and catching it and eating it? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Om førtidspensionisterne Kenn Rosenkranz og Bo Warming > http://farligatdrikke.tripod.com/ > hate to break the news to you, but people buy live mice to feed their > pet snakes all the time. I'm afraid that's not news. People who keep snakes have to feed live mice to snakes, or bigger rodents, or even rabbits, depending on the size of the snake and the frequency of his meals. That is because snakes will only eat live food, there is no other option. Especially for the constrictors and pythons, anyway. But snakes do not toy with their prey....they get right to it, and it's usually over pretty quickly. Cats, on the other hand, prefer to delay the meal....they seem to be smart enough to understand that anticipation makes the feast even better in the end. ---tension > I'm afraid that's not news. People who keep snakes have to feed live > mice to snakes, or bigger rodents, or even rabbits, depending on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > seem to be smart enough to understand that anticipation makes the feast > even better in the end. i guess one could make death painless for a sick cat by feeding him to the snake. >> I'm afraid that's not news. People who keep snakes have to feed live >> mice to snakes, or bigger rodents, or even rabbits, depending on the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > i guess one could make death painless for a sick cat by feeding him to > the snake. Eddie sometimes you make me want to track you down and take a baseball bat to you What a f.cked up thing to say death by having all your bones broken slowly and being suffocated to death snakes eat many cute furry mammals per week, so it's not a big deal. they know exactly what to do. First, they first paralize the furrball with poisonous venom. then they suck him into its stomach, where powerful stomach acid cuts through the fur and slowly melts the furrball. the furrball is dead in hours if not minutes. i'm sure he doesn't remember a thing except the part where he is paralyzed and is sliding down the snake's throat. > >> I'm afraid that's not news. People who keep snakes have to feed live > >> mice to snakes, or bigger rodents, or even rabbits, depending on the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > What a f.cked up thing to say death by having all your bones broken slowly > and being suffocated to death > snakes eat many cute furry mammals per week, so it's not a big deal. > they know exactly what to do. First, they first paralize the furrball [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > doesn't remember a thing except the part where he is paralyzed and is > sliding down the snake's throat. the last time I looked the only snake that could eat a cat is a python or anaconda? WHAT POISON? Again as I said one day you time will come but to me you have been added to the delete file for being a waste > my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to > chase around the house and catching it and eating it? Mice carry diseases and parasites, not a good idea for kitty. Mouse might get safely away from kitty into your baseboards or mattress stuffing or sofa springs and you better hope it ain't pregnant when it does. There are many and varied toys for kitty to play with that can avoid this. Why not a wind up mouse? I had a cat to whom I gave a lifesize fake mouse with a bit of catnip in it. She loved it so much, that she carried it around the house in her mouth as if it were her baby. If I took it out of the house and placed it on the lawn, she would bustle out there muttering things not lawful to be uttered and pick it up and bring it back in. --tension "tension_on_the_wire" <tension_at_home@yahoo.com> wrote in message > placed it on the lawn, she would bustle out there muttering things not > lawful to be uttered and pick it up and bring it back in. My cat does the same thing, except with elastics and piles them up in the middle of the living room floor. I don't know where she finds them since I've been locking up all I can find for at least six months. If I take even one of her elastics and put it somewhere else, she's immediately at my feet yowling to put it back. An unfortunate lesson from my own snake experiences may help to drive home and emphasize the point about feeding live prey animals. When I first began keeping snakes, I had a beautiful young five-foot Reticulated Python who, unlike most members of her species, was calm and tractable and easy to handle. One day, I opened her cage and plopped a nice fat live hamster inside to feed her, as I had done routinely at least several dozen times before. The Python promptly seized the hamster by the side of its body, but failed to get a good grip and hesitated for barely a moment. Whereupon, in an instant, the hamster, with its last bit of energy before it went into shock, turned and bit the snake squarely in the skull. Within seconds, both were dead. Ever since, all of my snakes get pre-killed prey exclusively. Please learn from my mistake, and do not ever feed your snakes live prey animals. Excerpted from The Snake: An Owner's Guide To A Happy Healthy Pet. ©1997 Howell Book House, Lenny Flank > "tension_on_the_wire" <tension_at_home@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > placed it on the lawn, she would bustle out there muttering things not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > one of her elastics and put it somewhere else, she's immediately at my feet > yowling to put it back. > An unfortunate lesson from my own snake experiences may help to drive > home and emphasize the point about feeding live prey animals. When I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Excerpted from The Snake: An Owner's Guide To A Happy Healthy Pet. > ©1997 Howell Book House, Lenny Flank Some snakes will not accept pre-killed prey. Most pythons, in fact. When they approach the prey, and their tongue comes in and out, they are in fact smelling for warm breath. If they don't get it, they will often leave the animal untouched, unless they are truly starving, which would be an unnaturally cruel way to keep a snake. I had a friend, however, who kept a 15 ft. Burmese python (90lbs) who was so domesticated that he wouldn't touch live prey with a ten foot disinfected barge pole. If he got warm breath, he would run for cover. We had to kill the animal (rabbit) just immediately before feeding. The weird thing is, the eating reflex cannot be bypassed in pythons, and so he would still have to grab it around the nose, and fling himself several times around and start constricting before he could even stimulate the enzymes and start swallowing. Sorry, off topic in a cat group, but somehow we got here. --tension awwww, aint the snake cute when he's killing. On a more serious note, why are snakes so picky that they only take "fresh" prey? I imagine their stomach acids are strong enough they can withstand a little bit of bacteria. > > An unfortunate lesson from my own snake experiences may help to drive > > home and emphasize the point about feeding live prey animals. When I [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > --tension > awwww, aint the snake cute when he's killing. > > On a more serious note, why are snakes so picky that they only take > "fresh" prey? I imagine their stomach acids are strong enough they can > withstand a little bit of bacteria. No, there are strains of bacteria that are acid-resistant, especially the ones that thrive in the decomposing tissue of dead animals. And as it turns out, the most sensitive system in the snake is the digestive system because it is so long and thin. The most common cause of death in large pet snakes is constipation. The main issue in eating dead meat is that for most animals except scavengers (which is a relatively small percentage of the animal world in terms of numbers of species, unless you count insects as well), there are any one of a variety of mechanisms to prevent them from eating dead meat. The main survival issue is that if the victim animal is alive, odds are they are healthy, or at least healthier. If animals jump on dead meat all the time, they significantly increase the chances of eating an animal that died of something that could in turn hurt them....including poison, parasites or toxic disease (like liver or kidney disease), or eating a huge load of decompositional bacteria, and those are not pretty. Domesticated animals have generally had that instinct bred out of them so that they will eat both dead and cooked meat, though many, like kitties, will prefer a good fresh snack when they can get it. And starving animals can't be choosers, such as wild animals in captivity, or in drought time. But in the ideal environment they like it "fresh & wiggling" as Gollum put it. Even humans, when they get the chance of it, will notice how much better meat tastes when it is extremely fresh. I did not know what fish tasted like, *really* tasted like, until I caught one myself in a freshwater lake and cooked it for breakfast less than half-an-hour later. What a difference! ---tension > > Some snakes will not accept pre-killed prey. Most pythons, in fact. > > When they approach the prey, and their tongue comes in and out, they [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > --tension you can go to some restaurants and select a fish, frog, crab, or shrimp fresh from the tank. > > awwww, aint the snake cute when he's killing. > > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > > > > > --tension > you can go to some restaurants and select a fish, frog, crab, or shrimp > fresh from the tank. Indeed you can, but it does not compare to the taste of a wild rock bass that was swimming in its natural clean environment (well, okay, cleaner than a tank, anyway) just a little while before. You know how they say "you are what you eat"? Well, with fish, I suspect, it is "you are what you breathe". --tension P.S. cats, snakes and fish......I bet the furry ones are reading these posts drooling!! > > Even humans, when they get the chance of it, will notice how much > > better meat tastes when it is extremely fresh. I did not know what [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > ---tension > my cat looks bored. do you think he would enjoy have a live mouse to > chase around the house and catching it and eating it? |
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