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Cat Forum / General Topics / August 2006Please help me decide.
I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, the yellow is male and the gray female. I've been putting food for them almost every day. I carry cat food in my car to feed a stray or two when I run into them. The male is friendly and will come when I call.. the female comes following his step, since she goes where he goes. He lets me touch him. I can find a home for him because a person that works with me is looking for another kitty to take home (she already has one cat at home) but not for the gray kitten. Can I separate these two?? I've been in tears thinking one way or the other. Seems it hurts a great deal no matter what I decide to do. My daughter is still young and inresponsible. She wont comit to feed the kittens. It takes me out of my way everyday from work to go take food to them. Someone in the complex where she lives, makes a round daily to pick up catfood and throw it out. I know this for a fact because I use styrofoam containers and find that the containers dissapear, but there could be a piece of trash next to them and that remains for days. So they are not just picking up the trash. They are taking away the catfood. I have three cats at home and about seven strays that I feed outside. I cannot care for another two inside my (very small home) and I am afraid if I try to relocate them to just my neighborhood the other strays may run them away. Please help me with some feedback. I am very stressed and it doesn't seem like my tears can help these two. Thank you kindly for your replies. On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:27:46 -0700, Hezabel wrote: > I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my > daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > seem like my tears can help these two. Thank you kindly for your > replies. I really feel for you. To be very practical, they should be trapped and neutered otherwise there will soon be babies to worry about. I have been in this situation and it breaks your heart. Best wishes. I hope you can find a solution. > I really feel for you. To be very practical, they should be trapped and > neutered otherwise there will soon be babies to worry about. I have been > in this situation and it breaks your heart. Best wishes. I hope you can > find a solution. Thank you for your reply. Can I take them to be neuter/spay and let them out on the same spot the same day? How soon? I am afraid if I take them home for a minute I wont be able to give them up. I dont think you should let them out the same day...especially the female..spaying requires stitches and some bedrest. My newbie was neutered this past week and he had to stay overnight and I brought him home and he was in no shape to go outside (which I dont do any way).  SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! > >> I really feel for you. To be very practical, they should be trapped and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > them out on the same spot the same day? How soon? I am afraid if I > take them home for a minute I wont be able to give them up. > I dont think you should let them out the same day...especially the > female..spaying requires stitches and some bedrest. My newbie was neutered > this past week and he had to stay overnight and I brought him home and he > was in no shape to go outside (which I dont do any way). Thanks.. maybe the vet with hold them for a couple of days. I have never trapped and have a cat fixed. I have no idea what I am doing. However, I do want to do whatever I can to help them. I am also going to take pictures and put them on the vet's office to see if anyone wants to adopt them. They seem so young. I wish I can spare them the harsh reality of their fate. I am used to feed all sorts of strays just about anywhere I go, but these I can't take off my mind. On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:51:04 -0700, Hezabel wrote: >> I really feel for you. To be very practical, they should be trapped and >> neutered otherwise there will soon be babies to worry about. I have been [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > them out on the same spot the same day? How soon? I am afraid if I > take them home for a minute I wont be able to give them up. That is the problem. The male probably would be OK but the spay would need shelter, peace and quiet for a week or so. Try to find a helpful friend. Best wishes. MLB I have 7 cats (the latest came to us a couple weeks ago), And I also feed the homeless cats in my neighborhood,too...I understand your dilema. But why couldnt you take in one more? I didnt think I would want 7 cats, but here I am :) SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! >I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my > daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > seem like my tears can help these two. Thank you kindly for your > replies. > I have 7 cats (the latest came to us a couple weeks ago), And I also feed > the homeless cats in my neighborhood,too...I understand your dilema. But why > couldnt you take in one more? I didnt think I would want 7 cats, but here I > am :) Incredibly difficult. There is no one in the house for most the day and I take two different medications to live with the three I got. :) I dont' regret a minute of it as I think they are my angels but I don't know how I can handle more. The male kitty worries me the most because he actually "comes" when you call. I wish he would run away from people like his sister. I am afraid what someone can do to him. >There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my >> daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, Adding another cat may or may not work. More than a year ago I took in a new kitten, now that he is more than a year old, he and my 18 year old Calico make Hezbollah and Israel look peaceful. >I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my > daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > been in tears thinking one way or the other. Seems it hurts a great > deal no matter what I decide to do. Please talk to the friend who is willing to adopt. It would not take any more work for two than for one, and she would be getting a pair who are already bonded -- and think of the sad life for the one that would be left behind. Please talk to her about this. It would be an ideal solution. MaryL > Please talk to the friend who is willing to adopt. It would not take any > more work for two than for one, and she would be getting a pair who are > already bonded -- and think of the sad life for the one that would be left > behind. Please talk to her about this. It would be an ideal solution. > > MaryL I will, I will.. I am already thinking of ways to make her want to do this. Taking pictures of them together and even offering to pay for vaccinations and such. :) I wish I can at least relocate them so they can eat every day. The person throwing their food away is heartless. If you lived close to me, I'd take them both in! I was considering becoming a foster parent for homeless cats..work with a Animal Shelter until permanent homes are found. SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! > >> Please talk to the friend who is willing to adopt. It would not take any [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I wish I can at least relocate them so they can eat every day. The > person throwing their food away is heartless. > If you lived close to me, I'd take them both in! I was considering becoming > a foster parent for homeless cats..work with a Animal Shelter until > permanent homes are found. > > -- Where do you live? I mean.. I don't want to ask you stuff like this on a board. I am at hezabel@yahoo.com Thanks. I got pics!!! >> Please talk to the friend who is willing to adopt. It would not take any >> more work for two than for one, and she would be getting a pair who are [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I wish I can at least relocate them so they can eat every day. The > person throwing their food away is heartless. I think your offer to pay these early expenses is excellent and *very* thoughtful. Without those expenses, it may be that your friend would be willing to adopt. She can really "double her pleasure" by adopting the pair and she would be saving *two* babies from very unpleasant circumstances. Thank you for caring so much. MaryL > I think your offer to pay these early expenses is excellent and *very* > thoughtful. Without those expenses, it may be that your friend would be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MaryL I hope it works. What I need now is prayers for these two. Any positive thoughts sent my way will be appreciated. I will talk to her tomorrow. My husband assures me I can't save every cat I run across and I know he is right. But I am going to do everything I can when I can do something. Thank you kindly for your words. >> I think your offer to pay these early expenses is excellent and *very* >> thoughtful. Without those expenses, it may be that your friend would be [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thank you kindly for your words. Yes, you certainly have positive thoughts. You can't save every cat, as you said, but it would be wonderful to save these two and keep them together. MaryL Thanks to everyone of you for the chat and the wonderful advice. I am off to play with my current furry children because Stanley (my youngest) keeps nibbling at me to get off the pc and follow him to where his toys are. So I can lose a leg in addition to losing my mind. :) >From a cat lover to another. May you all be blessed and thank you very much for your feedback. I will try to log tomorrow evening to let you know what my co-worker says about having the two kittens. Goodnight. >> I think your offer to pay these early expenses is excellent and *very* >> thoughtful. Without those expenses, it may be that your friend would be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Thank you kindly for your words. I know I can not save every cat also but when they are kittens / young cats just starting out I will do whatever I can to get them off the streets. The older ones that are street wise I will at least try to provide some type of shelter and food for them so they get fedd and have a place to sleep out of the weather especially here in the Michigan winters. My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ >I will, I will.. I am already thinking of ways to make her want to do >this. Taking pictures of them together and even offering to pay for >vaccinations and such. :) > >I wish I can at least relocate them so they can eat every day. The >person throwing their food away is heartless. Could the person throwing the food away be doing so to avoid attracting rodents/instects/etc.? Also does the city/town have an ordinance prohibiting the feeding of wild animals? >>I will, I will.. I am already thinking of ways to make her want to do >>this. Taking pictures of them together and even offering to pay for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Also does the city/town have an ordinance prohibiting the feeding > of wild animals? Even towns that prohibit feeding wild animals *usually* permit feeding feral cats (classified as domestic animals). MaryL > >>I will, I will.. I am already thinking of ways to make her want to do > >>this. Taking pictures of them together and even offering to pay for [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > MaryL I imagine is probably to discourage the cats from being around spraying. I don't know of any ordinance. I live in an unincorporated area. Anyway... Is raining cats and dogs and I made my usual trip to see the kittens and given them food. I was told today by the Cat Network not to use Styrofoam, to use leaves or put the food on the floor. I see the wisdom in that. The sort of it all is: my co-worker doesn't want both kittens; the shelters (the no kill) are filled to capacity; foster homes have too many kittens; my hubby is bent in not having anymore strays until our 16-year dog dies, because this distresses her to no limits. I couldn't find the kittens I was feeding previously and others were around the area, which I fed. I sat under a tree and cried my heart out, then anger, then dispair and now I just feel useless. I work long hours and my own cats are starting to feel neglected because I just come from work and run out to drive myself nuts. Where do you win? I don't know. Can I make a difference? Is hard to tell. Why do people "we" do this? I want to do something. What can I do? I just got with me my very first three cats and I am madly in love with them and the rest of the cat kindom. Blessings to all of you for listening to my ranting. >Even towns that prohibit feeding wild animals *usually* permit feeding feral >cats (classified as domestic animals). Not necessarily. We have a town who has thrown residents in jail for feeding animals against regulations. The town has an absolute ban of feeding animals who are not your personal pet. Violating the ban will get you arrested, thrown in jail, and/or a huge fine. You'll never go broke betting on the arrogance of the town leadership playing God/Supreme Leader/Czar. (I would add this regulation came about because we have been over run by wild turkeys/etc. and the towns don't want them fed. They're trying to avoid encouraging the thousands of wild turkeys that invade an area like a kids palyground.) email sent SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! >I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my > daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > seem like my tears can help these two. Thank you kindly for your > replies. >I am torn. There are two kittens, about 4-5 months old about where my >daughter lives. A yellow tabby and a gray tabby. For the looks of it, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >seem like my tears can help these two. Thank you kindly for your >replies. I would not take one without the other even if you had to take the other to a shelter (Preferrably no kill). I would be mean and cruel to take on of the street and not the other especially where they are as close as they sound. My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ > I would not take one without the other even if you had to take the > other to a shelter (Preferrably no kill). I would be mean and cruel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ Thank you. I do want to keep them together. I don't know about shelters. They scare me. I don't think I can take them to a shelter, even if they don't kill them. I live in Ohio,Hezabel. SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! > >> I would not take one without the other even if you had to take the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > shelters. They scare me. I don't think I can take them to a shelter, > even if they don't kill them. > I live in Ohio,Hezabel. Wow.. Florida here. Well, at least you dont live in Tokyo,Japan ;) SignatureStraighten up and fly right...and you will soar like an eagle! > >> I live in Ohio,Hezabel. >> > Wow.. Florida here. Where in Florida I live in between Daytona beach and Orlando Some Florida info for you http://flarescue.tripod.com/humane.html http://www.petfriendlyevacshelters.net/pb/wp_a4bec01b/florida.html http://www.netpets.org/cats/catresc/groups/florida.html http://www.catswithnoname.net/Florida.htm http://www.bringyourpet.com/lodging/fl/index.htm >> I live in Ohio,Hezabel. >> > Wow.. Florida here. > Where in Florida I live in between Daytona beach and Orlando Miami You are about 4.5 hours away There are quite a few low cost vaccine clinics and spay and neuter clinics http://animals.miamidade.gov/ they have a spay and neuter clinic listed on their website >> Where in Florida I live in between Daytona beach and Orlando > > Miami > You are about 4.5 hours away > > There are quite a few low cost vaccine clinics and spay and neuter clinics Yup.. I even know where it is located, and that is where I'll be heading. Is going to be hard to release them afterwards. Thanks >> You are about 4.5 hours away >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks Most of those places that I showed you are NO KILL shelters they will find homes. It is always hard to let them go afterwards I used to be involved in shelters. I had to stop being a foster it hurt to much to watch them go, still hurt every one got adopted at the shelter but it was a good thing that is what keep me going > Most of those places that I showed you are NO KILL shelters they will find > homes. > It is always hard to let them go afterwards I used to be involved in > shelters. I had to stop being a foster it hurt to much to watch them go, > still hurt every one got adopted at the shelter but it was a good thing that > is what keep me going I don't know if I can handle it. I am crying my eyes out as I type this and I haven't even spent a whole hour during any of my visits with any of the two kittens. My visits are short. When I walk away the yellow kitty tries to run after me, meowing all the time. I am so heartbroken. :( It is hard hang in there the right choice will reveal itself >> Most of those places that I showed you are NO KILL shelters they will >> find [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I am so heartbroken. :( >> Most of those places that I showed you are NO KILL shelters they will find >> homes. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >I am so heartbroken. :( Well get them and find them a home or shelter that will take them !!! My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ this is a no kill shelter if you need to take them hopefully you can take care of them or find them good homes http://www.tricountyhumane.org/ http://www.animal-aid.com/ >> Where in Florida I live in between Daytona beach and Orlando > > Miami >> I would not take one without the other even if you had to take the >> other to a shelter (Preferrably no kill). I would be mean and cruel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > shelters. They scare me. I don't think I can take them to a shelter, > even if they don't kill them. Do you have any rescue groups in your area? Alley Cats Allies are located in various cities around the U.S., and they will often foster rescue kitties while they search for homes. MaryL >> I would not take one without the other even if you had to take the >> other to a shelter (Preferrably no kill). I would be mean and cruel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >shelters. They scare me. I don't think I can take them to a shelter, >even if they don't kill them. To me life in a NO KILL shelter would be preferrable to life on the street fending for itself especially if you are in the states where they have snow and cold winter months. From what I read the average life span for a cat on the streets (stray) is about 2 years. My furbabies http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ |
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