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SJ - 29 May 2006 16:29 GMT
Looking for advice... We have 4 cats, one older male (10yr) basic
house/outside cat, a brother and sister cats (2yrs old), and another young
male (1 1/2yr).  The younger cats are exclusively house cats and all the
cats have been spayed/neutered and declawed.  We have 2 litterboxes, easily
accessible in our basement.  I doubt the older cat ever uses them as he is
outside most of the time.  The litter boxes are kept relatively clean and
emptied regularly.  The problem we are having is the younger male cat is
urinating randomly throughout the house and it smells horribly.  I caught
him today, and treated the urine right away and it doesn't smell.  Is there
anyway of persuading him to stop doing this?  There is no problem with
defacating.  Any really good products to get rid of the smell?  Cat experts
please help.  Crating?
Thanks
Scott
Spider - 29 May 2006 21:49 GMT
 Looking for advice... We have 4 cats, one older male (10yr) basic house/outside cat, a brother and sister cats (2yrs old), and another young male (1 1/2yr).  The younger cats are exclusively house cats and all the cats have been spayed/neutered and declawed.  We have 2 litterboxes, easily accessible in our basement.  I doubt the older cat ever uses them as he is outside most of the time.  The litter boxes are kept relatively clean and emptied regularly.  The problem we are having is the younger male cat is urinating randomly throughout the house and it smells horribly.  I caught him today, and treated the urine right away and it doesn't smell.  Is there anyway of persuading him to stop doing this?  There is no problem with defacating.  Any really good products to get rid of the smell?  Cat experts please help.  Crating?
 Thanks
 Scott

 Hi Scott,

 It is possible that, despite being doctored, your young male is on heat and is aggressively marking his territory - displacing your older male - and showing interest in your female cats.  You could simply try putting out an extra litter box, but this may not work if he's using the house randomly.

 Another thought arises from an anecdotal tale of another peeing cat.
 This cat suddenly began peeing and spraying for no apparent reason.  However, when investigated, it seems that a member of the family had started 'parking' their new bicyle in the hall to prevent its theft or vandalism.  Unthinkingly, they had brought into the house all manner of smells from the road(s) outside, causing their cat to feel threatened in its own territory.  Hence the marking behaviour.   Could any similar incident have occurred in your home to provoke this behaviour?

 Perhaps, most important of all, there's a possibility that your cat has some form of cystitis or renal failure.  It is more usual in older cats, but still possible.  For your own peace of mind and your cat's wellbeing, please take your cat to the vet for a check-up.  If you can easily collect some fresh cat pee, take a sample to the vet.

 As to the existing 'damage', dilute bleach, vinegar and lemon juice (used individually!) may eliminate pee pongs, but I just use carpet/upholstery shampoo.  Whatever you use, test a small area first.

 Hope all goes well.
 Spider

   
SJ - 29 May 2006 22:03 GMT
thanks for the advice

 "SJ" <skjoy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:z_KdnT8LqNWFjubZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
 Looking for advice... We have 4 cats, one older male (10yr) basic
house/outside cat, a brother and sister cats (2yrs old), and another young
male (1 1/2yr).  The younger cats are exclusively house cats and all the
cats have been spayed/neutered and declawed.  We have 2 litterboxes, easily
accessible in our basement.  I doubt the older cat ever uses them as he is
outside most of the time.  The litter boxes are kept relatively clean and
emptied regularly.  The problem we are having is the younger male cat is
urinating randomly throughout the house and it smells horribly.  I caught
him today, and treated the urine right away and it doesn't smell.  Is there
anyway of persuading him to stop doing this?  There is no problem with
defacating.  Any really good products to get rid of the smell?  Cat experts
please help.  Crating?
 Thanks
 Scott

 Hi Scott,

 It is possible that, despite being doctored, your young male is on heat
and is aggressively marking his territory - displacing your older male - and
showing interest in your female cats.  You could simply try putting out an
extra litter box, but this may not work if he's using the house randomly.

 Another thought arises from an anecdotal tale of another peeing cat.
 This cat suddenly began peeing and spraying for no apparent reason.
However, when investigated, it seems that a member of the family had started
'parking' their new bicyle in the hall to prevent its theft or vandalism.
Unthinkingly, they had brought into the house all manner of smells from the
road(s) outside, causing their cat to feel threatened in its own territory.
Hence the marking behaviour.   Could any similar incident have occurred in
your home to provoke this behaviour?

 Perhaps, most important of all, there's a possibility that your cat has
some form of cystitis or renal failure.  It is more usual in older cats, but
still possible.  For your own peace of mind and your cat's wellbeing, please
take your cat to the vet for a check-up.  If you can easily collect some
fresh cat pee, take a sample to the vet.

 As to the existing 'damage', dilute bleach, vinegar and lemon juice (used
individually!) may eliminate pee pongs, but I just use carpet/upholstery
shampoo.  Whatever you use, test a small area first.

 Hope all goes well.
 Spider
catherine - 29 May 2006 23:34 GMT
I had a well trained male cat who mainly lived indoors and he started peeing in random places throughout the house. I couldn't get him to stop and one day I saw there was some blood in his urine and it turned out he had cystitis. Maybe take him to the vets to get checked out if this behaviour doesn't stop, but hopefully it won't be anything wrong with him, just a bad habit he's picked up for some reason!

catherine
 Looking for advice... We have 4 cats, one older male (10yr) basic house/outside cat, a brother and sister cats (2yrs old), and another young male (1 1/2yr).  The younger cats are exclusively house cats and all the cats have been spayed/neutered and declawed.  We have 2 litterboxes, easily accessible in our basement.  I doubt the older cat ever uses them as he is outside most of the time.  The litter boxes are kept relatively clean and emptied regularly.  The problem we are having is the younger male cat is urinating randomly throughout the house and it smells horribly.  I caught him today, and treated the urine right away and it doesn't smell.  Is there anyway of persuading him to stop doing this?  There is no problem with defacating.  Any really good products to get rid of the smell?  Cat experts please help.  Crating?
 Thanks
 Scott
---MIKE--- - 30 May 2006 00:56 GMT
First take him to the vet.  If you are feeding dry food, change to
canned (more water dilutes the urine).  Add two more litter boxes.
Lastly, NEVER have a cat declawed.  Sometimes the rough litter causes
pain when they try to dig.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
SJ - 30 May 2006 03:06 GMT
His random urination has been going on for weeks, I'm a medical provider and
usually, at least humans, don't have cystitis or a uti without having
symptoms.  He is eating good and playful

First take him to the vet.  If you are feeding dry food, change to
canned (more water dilutes the urine).  Add two more litter boxes.
Lastly, NEVER have a cat declawed.  Sometimes the rough litter causes
pain when they try to dig.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
---MIKE--- - 31 May 2006 00:25 GMT
>humans, don't have cystitis or a uti
> without having symptoms.  

Cats don't either.  The cat's symptoms are usually urinating out of the
litter box or sitting in the litter box trying to pee.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Proctologically Violated©® - 01 Jun 2006 17:33 GMT
I posted the same problem in a ng years ago.  I have 3 males, great cats.  Two piss like crazy.  Not a box problem, not an in-heat problem, not a medical problem, just a gigantic pita. I see them sometimes scoping out a place to mark!
The one that doesn't do this is the real street cat that *we* had spayed.  The other two may have been spayed incorrectly.
The vet has been largely useless in this, and in pretty much everything else.  Except for sending us huge bills.

It was stated on a ng that 90% of male cats, spayed or otherwise, will continue to spray.  Mine spray up 2-3 ft!!  *I* can't even do that!
I'm thinking of electrifying certain areas. <eg>
This sprtizing is not the foul stuff of un-neutered cats, but it may be slightly different than a full-blown urination.  

We have a large house, and basically have to cordon off virtually all areas except for one or two, and clean those every day.  We try to keep them outside as much as is possible/humane.  Basement/shop-type areas are more prone to being sprayed than a bedroom.  
But put a new cardboard box in the bedroom, and it will be marked within 24 hrs.
Really a pita.  If you are lucky, it will be a fixable medical problem.  Otherwise, you have to make serious adaptations.
--
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll
 Looking for advice... We have 4 cats, one older male (10yr) basic house/outside cat, a brother and sister cats (2yrs old), and another young male (1 1/2yr).  The younger cats are exclusively house cats and all the cats have been spayed/neutered and declawed.  We have 2 litterboxes, easily accessible in our basement.  I doubt the older cat ever uses them as he is outside most of the time.  The litter boxes are kept relatively clean and emptied regularly.  The problem we are having is the younger male cat is urinating randomly throughout the house and it smells horribly.  I caught him today, and treated the urine right away and it doesn't smell.  Is there anyway of persuading him to stop doing this?  There is no problem with defacating.  Any really good products to get rid of the smell?  Cat experts please help.  Crating?
 Thanks
 Scott
 
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