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Frigamia - 23 Sep 2003 04:53 GMT
Hello,

My youngest cat was born at the end of march of this year. She is then about
6 months old at this time.

I want to have her spayed but I can't do it right now. My concern is the
following: Do kittens come at any time of the year or only at "normal"
times? like fall and spring? Seeing that it is september and Misha (my cat)
is 6 months... does it mean if I don,t have her spayed soon, she might have
kittens this winter? (december - jan - feb?) She is an inside/outside cat.

Please, do not tell me things like "OMG you HAVE to let her have at least
ONE litter... " or "NO WAY you ABSOLUTELY have to FIND THE MONEY right NOW
and get her spayed"... Do not start any fight over my post Puuuleeeease... I
just need an answer to my questions. :) I'll take care of the rest, ;)  Ty.

Mia.
~*SooZy*~ - 23 Sep 2003 14:50 GMT
keep her indoors till you have her spayed if you don't want kitten!

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Frigamia - 23 Sep 2003 16:58 GMT
That is quite impossible to do.... But I see your point. So you're saying
kitten DO come anytime of the year. ?

Mia

> keep her indoors till you have her spayed if you don't want kitten!
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~*SooZy*~ - 23 Sep 2003 20:35 GMT
well a lot depends on the climate..... has she started calling yet?

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Victor M. Martinez - 23 Sep 2003 15:49 GMT
In general, an intact cat female is either in heat or pregnant/nursing. The
sooner you spay her, the better. There are many places that offer low-cost
or even free spay/neuter programs. If you tell us where you live we can
probably find something that would help.

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Poop Dogg - 23 Sep 2003 17:21 GMT
"Frigamia" wrote in message ...
>My youngest cat was born at the end of march of this year. She is then about
>6 months old at this time.
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>and get her spayed"... Do not start any fight over my post Puuuleeeease... I
>just need an answer to my questions. :) I'll take care of the rest, ;)  Ty.

My kitten is about the same age.  She is scheduled to go in for spaying
in about 2 weeks.  I paid $30 to adopt her from the animal shelter and
the fee included distemper and rabies shots and spaying, a very good
deal in my opinion.

If you can't afford to get her spayed right now then be prepared to make
her an indoor kitty within the next 6 months.  The signs of heat are
obvious, but I'm not sure if cats can mate and get pregnant when those
signs are absent.  Check your local newspaper, sometimes various
organizations offer free neutering/spaying in their attempts to reduce
the unwanted animal population.
Orchid - 23 Sep 2003 22:49 GMT
>Hello,
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>is 6 months... does it mean if I don,t have her spayed soon, she might have
>kittens this winter? (december - jan - feb?) She is an inside/outside cat.

    Cats are capable of going into heat at any time of the year,
and often do.  You will need to keep her indoors exclusively until she
is spayed, or she *will* go into heat, *will* get pregnant, and *will*
have kittens.  You should also know that queens (intact female cats)
do spray when they go into heat to mark their territory and attract
toms to them.  They also tend to become highly aggressive towards
other female cats (spayed or not).
    I understand having financial limitations (closing on a house
in 7 days!) but there are some things you should know about intact
queens' health.  I'm certain you already know about ovarian, breast,
and uterine cancers, but there's something even more dangerous that
not many people know about.  If a queen cycles too many times without
being bred, she is at high risk for pyometria.  Pyometria (pyo) is an
infection of the uterus that can kill a queen within a matter of days.
The usual cure for it is an emergency spay, which costs a whole lot of
money.  If your cat cycles two or three times and develops any of the
below symptoms, get her to a vet or she may die.  

Pyo symptoms:
    Vaginal Discharge. (dogs bleed when in heat, cats don't)
    Increased Thirst.
    Lack of Appetite.    
    Swollen Abdomen.
    Apathy.
    Dulling of the fur.

    Your best bet is to look into low-cost spaying and get it done
ASAP for your cat's health.

Orchid

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Frigamia - 24 Sep 2003 00:49 GMT
Thank you very much, Orchid, for your very complete and helpful answer. :)
I do know a lot about cats in heat and stuff, as I have 3 older female cats.
2 of them had kittens and then were spayed, one of them was spayed as soon
as her age would allow it. But it is the first time that I have a cat who
wasn't born in May or June, so I was wondering it would just wait to next
season. Your post answered that question. ty
Also, I didn't know that there was a danger of pyometria. Thank you for that
information.

I will do what needs to be done in the best interest for Misha's health.
Thanks again for your help,
Mia... mom of Misha, Minouche, Frimousse and Gamine..

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> Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Orchid - 24 Sep 2003 02:26 GMT
>Thank you very much, Orchid, for your very complete and helpful answer. :)
>I do know a lot about cats in heat and stuff, as I have 3 older female cats.
>2 of them had kittens and then were spayed, one of them was spayed as soon
>as her age would allow it. But it is the first time that I have a cat who
>wasn't born in May or June, so I was wondering it would just wait to next
>season. Your post answered that question. ty

    Not a problem -- glad I could help.

>Also, I didn't know that there was a danger of pyometria. Thank you for that
>information.

    You are more than welcome.  Pyo is a horrible thing, and a
horrible way for a cat to die.  Good luck, and feel free to do some
more research on pyo.  There are two commonly used spellings,
pyometria and pyometra.  A Google search on 'pyometra cats' will give
you a lot of good info on the infection.

>I will do what needs to be done in the best interest for Misha's health.

    Hey, if you let us know your general location we could
probably get some good low-cost spay info to you.

Orchid

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Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Frigamia - 24 Sep 2003 08:04 GMT
Thank you very much. I will do some more research about the infection.

I will be ok with the low cost spaying thing, I can find out now that I know
about it, Thank you very much though, if ever I don't find, I,ll know where
to knock at :)

I can not keep my cat inside, it is impossible. So I'll do the best I can. I
might just let her have one litter too. I believe it's good for a mommy cat
and I have good safe contacts for the kitttens after.  (I don't want any
fight on that on this post. I know some people do not agree, I don't need to
hear about it. I do not like fights. Ty.) My two cats who had kittens have
both turned out to be more relaxed cats than the one who never had kittens.
They seem more in peace with everything and they are more affectionate. So I
don't know... I will do my researches and find out a place I can have her
spayed at a low cost, and then I'll take my decision. She is still only 6
months after all... my little baby :)

Thank you for your help, I'll keep you posted,
Mia :)

> >Thank you very much, Orchid, for your very complete and helpful answer.
:)
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> Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Victor M. Martinez - 24 Sep 2003 15:26 GMT
>I can not keep my cat inside, it is impossible. So I'll do the best I can. I
>might just let her have one litter too. I believe it's good for a mommy cat
>and I have good safe contacts for the kitttens after.  (I don't want any

It is not "good" for the mommy cat. Aren't you aware of the overpopulation
problem? Go volunteer at your local shelter and ask to watch them euthanize
perfectly healthy cats and kittens. Then you come back and tell us that
"it's good for the mommy".

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Orchid - 25 Sep 2003 18:55 GMT
>I can not keep my cat inside, it is impossible. So I'll do the best I can. I
>might just let her have one litter too. I believe it's good for a mommy cat
>and I have good safe contacts for the kitttens after.  (I don't want any
>fight on that on this post. I know some people do not agree, I don't need to
>hear about it. I do not like fights. Ty.)

    I'm sorry you don't like 'fights', but posting that you plan
to be an irresponsible owner is going to get some hackles up.  It
isn't impossible to keep a cat indoors, especially if it's only
temporary.  As for it being good for females to have a litter, that is
outmoded and outdated thinking.  It puts the queen at risk for
sexually-transmitted diseases like FIV, it puts her at risk during the
kittening, and it contributes to the cat overpopulation problem
without any ameliorating circumstances (ie, improving a breed, etc).

    Everyone who allows a cat to reproduce is a breeder.  What you
can decide is what kind of a breeder you're going to be.  Allowing a
non-health-tested cat of unknown lineage mate with a wholly unknown,
equally untested stud of equally unknown lineage makes that breeder
utterly irresponsible.  The vast majority of the cats in shelters are
randomly-bred cats, usually owned by people who want to let their
queen have 'Just One Litter'.  And while I am certain you would never
want to have kittens you have produced in a shelter, it is often
amazing how many people who have said that they want a kitten suddenly
can't take one.

    Please rethink your decision and do the right thing.

Orchid

Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Frigamia - 26 Sep 2003 03:19 GMT
Will do thank you... :)

Mia

> >I can not keep my cat inside, it is impossible. So I'll do the best I can. I
> >might just let her have one litter too. I believe it's good for a mommy cat
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> Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
rrb_091903 - 24 Sep 2003 02:54 GMT
> Hello,
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> is 6 months... does it mean if I don,t have her spayed soon, she might have
> kittens this winter? (december - jan - feb?) She is an inside/outside cat.

Yes, kittens can come at any time of the year. You will most likely end
up with kittens - or at least she will get pregnant - unless you do one
of the following:

1. keep her inside.
2. Get her spayed.
Frigamia - 24 Sep 2003 07:59 GMT
Ty for your answer....

Mia :)

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> 1. keep her inside.
> 2. Get her spayed.
 
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