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Cat Forum / General Topics / April 2006HELP me save a kitten
I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth and tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while cleaning--I have now opened her eyes, but they are swollen--I have a solution that was precribed for my husband which he never used--can this be used to treat here eyes? The name is Polymyxin B Sulfate and Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution. PLease hurry--I need to help her--thanks so much!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER USED HUMAN MEDICATION ON ANY ANIMAL UNLESS A VET TELLS YOU TO If you have any other animals you need to quarantine this kitten now and keep anything that it came in contact with for the general moment. The reason for this is the kitten is untested for feline diseases This kitten could have several things wrong a VET TRIP IS NECESSARY NOW. This is not an option if you can't afford it talk to the vet about payment options your kitten can have an allergy or mild conjunctivitis or worse from what you described http://www.maxshouse.com/kitten_care.htm#Caring%20for%20Orphan%20Kittens >I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth >and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Solution. > PLease hurry--I need to help her--thanks so much!! What is it about the "Internet" that enables people to ask and FOLLOW the medical advice of TOTAL STRANGERS who may or MAY NOT know a damn thing about veterinary science? TAKE YOUR KITTEN TO A VET! If you want to swap pet anecdotes, fine! If you want to ask the proper way to train your cat to attack dogs, fine! If you want to discuss the ethics and morality behind getting your pets drunk, fine! But, DON'T ask for medical advice. Seriously! What are you thinking? > I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth and > tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while cleaning--I > have now opened her eyes, but they are swollen--I have a solution that was > precribed for my husband which he never used--can this be used to treat here > eyes? The name is Polymyxin B Sulfate and Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution. > PLease hurry--I need to help her--thanks so much!! > What is it about the "Internet" that enables people to ask and FOLLOW > the medical advice of TOTAL STRANGERS who may or MAY NOT know a damn [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ethics and morality behind getting your pets drunk, fine! But, DON'T ask > for medical advice. Seriously! What are you thinking? Hostile responses like this are what deter some people from seeking advice in the first place. Perhaps next time she or others will just plough ahead and treat the animal on their own without asking for outside help at all, considering the boorish replies they'll expect. Good job you. Way to set the stage for pets (or pets-to-be) with injuries/illnesses everywhere. Sarah, as has been said (some more nicely than others - lol) please do speak with a vet. Your husbands old medication may be too strong, too weak, or totally ineffective. Also, calculating dosages for animals is different than it is for humans. It's best to start from scratch, with a vet. ttyl, Amur_ >> What is it about the "Internet" that enables people to ask and FOLLOW >> the medical advice of TOTAL STRANGERS who may or MAY NOT know a damn [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >plough ahead and treat the animal on their own without asking for >outside help at all, considering the boorish replies they'll expect. Lets put it this way: If they were sick would they take something that someone else had for their pet to cure their (The human's) ailment or would they go to the doctor?!?! >> What is it about the "Internet" that enables people to ask and FOLLOW >> the medical advice of TOTAL STRANGERS who may or MAY NOT know a damn >> thing about veterinary science? > Hostile responses like this are what deter some people from seeking >advice in the first place. Perhaps next time she or others will just >plough ahead and treat the animal on their own without asking for >outside help at all, considering the boorish replies they'll expect. When have something medically wrong with a cat you should consult a veterinarian, not a usenet newsgroup. After all that is the veterinarian goes to school for all those years. Usually when someone asks for advice on usenet newsgroup it is because they are too lazy/cheap to spend the money to take the animal to a veterinarian. Ultimately you need a veterinarian to examine the cat, they have special equipment for examing eyes, they have stuff like xrays, ultrasound, etc. You show me someone who is asking this on usenet and i'll show you someone who says "it's only a cat, I'm not going to spend $$$$ to have a veterinarian look at it. If it were my cat it would have been to the veterinarian yesterday. > When have something medically wrong with a cat you should consult > a veterinarian, not a usenet newsgroup. After all that is the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they are too lazy/cheap to spend the money to take the animal > to a veterinarian. We don't know the circumstances she's asking under. Is it after business hours where she is (where I am, her post went up at 10pm at night?) Not every town has a 24 hour veterinary clinic. Is she in a rural/remote area and at the moment lacks the means to reach a vet? And perhaps this is her first time posting to a ng and she doesn't know how long it can take to get a decent reply (kudos to Matthew for catching her in less than 10 minutes. ^_^ .) I think it would be more accurate to say that usually when someone asks for advice on a ng it's for a less-urgent issue and they're just trying to avoid wasting time (theirs and the vet's) and money because they've misjudged their animal's symptoms. The first step in diagnosis/treatment lies with the owner - why lash out at them for taking the time to pursue more than one source of information? Anyone concluding that her short post reveals her to be lazy/cheap is revealing either an astonishing gift of insight or a total absence of it. > You show me someone who is asking this on usenet and i'll show > you someone who says "it's only a cat, I'm not going to spend > $$$$ to have a veterinarian look at it. Let's worry about Sarah, whose post shows only an urgent concern for an animal she *rescued*. Perhaps we could even applaud her for that rescue, and for stopping to ask for advice before attempting to medicate the kitten herself, if that applause doesn't hurt the feelings of the people who showed her so much contempt. Betcha $5 she's already taken the kitten in to be examined. ^_^ This ng exists for people to counsel and support one another. At least one of you has failed miserably at that in the last 24 hours. While you're demanding that others treat their pets with the utmost urgency and attention, perhaps you should also start demanding consideration and courtesy from yourself. You reap what you sow... ttyl, Amur_ > We don't know the circumstances she's asking under. Is it after >business hours where she is (where I am, her post went up at 10pm at >night?) Not every town has a 24 hour veterinary clinic. Well around here have a number of animal hospitals that are open 24/7/365. In fact where I live I can make it to the 24/7/365 anaimal hospital in about the same time it would take to get to a vet. > I think it would be more accurate to say that usually when someone >asks for advice on a ng it's for a less-urgent issue and they're just >trying to avoid wasting time (theirs and the vet's) and money because >they've misjudged their animal's symptoms. The first step in >diagnosis/treatment lies with the owner - why lash out at them for >taking the time to pursue more than one source of information? Ultimately when it comes to medical issues they can't be diagnosed from a distance by computer (much to the chagrin of HMOs). There is a reason why that vet goes to shool for all those years. If your wife/husband/father/mother had a heart attack you'd get them to a hospital stat. You wouldn't try to diagnos/treat it yourself. Same goes for you cat. > This ng exists for people to counsel and support one another. At >least one of you has failed miserably at that in the last 24 hours. But it can never be a substitute for a real examination by real live trained vet. If it is a medical emergency you don't get on a usenet newsgroup, you go pick up the phone and call a vet. >While you're demanding that others treat their pets with the utmost >urgency and attention, perhaps you should also start demanding >consideration and courtesy from yourself. You reap what you sow... Around here if you get a visit from the ASPCA saying your pet needs urgent medical attention right away they're not going to accept "well I posted a question on usenet." Around here they would take the animal away and warn you that you should have called a veteranarian. "The dog in your back yard, it should have gotten medical attention a month ago." And no they would not accept posting on a usenet newsgroup as an alternative. > In fact where I live I can make it to the 24/7/365 anaimal hospital > in about the same time it would take to get to a vet. That's very nice, but the thread is about her, not you. > If your wife/husband/father/mother had a heart attack you'd get them > to a hospital stat. You wouldn't try to diagnos/treat it yourself. > Same goes for you cat. Comparing the urgency of a heart attack to that of an eye infection is ridiculous. > If it is a medical emergency you don't get on a usenet newsgroup, > you go pick up the phone and call a vet. Again -> circumstance. > Around here if you get a visit from the ASPCA saying your pet needs > urgent medical attention right away they're not going to accept > "well I posted a question on usenet." Again -> we don't the details of her circumstances. We don't what *more* she did beyond that one post. She sounded both intelligent and concerned enough to me that I doubt her efforts came to halt after she hit, "Send." > Dr. Woodard wrote: > >> The OP said they found the cat. They don't say when they >> found the cat....for all we know it could have been three >> years ago which may mean it is now their cat. > saraheblack000 wrote: > >>>I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . "Are sealed shut." Not, "were sealed shut." Sounds pretty recent to me. Like within the last 24 hours, and more likely, shortly before she posted. If it was a kitten that was found 3 years ago, wouldn't the thread title have been, "HELP me save a cat"? You're working awfully hard to paint her as an incompetent and thoughtless person. That "3 years ago" bit was just plain a silly thing to suggest. > Comparing the urgency of a heart attack to that of an eye infection >is ridiculous. Not if it is your cat. > Again -> we don't the details of her circumstances. We don't what >*more* she did beyond that one post. She sounded both intelligent and >concerned enough to me that I doubt her efforts came to halt after she >hit, "Send." Hey if worse comes to worse you call a cab and go to the animal hospital, wherever the nearest one is. > "Are sealed shut." Not, "were sealed shut." Sounds pretty recent to >me. Like within the last 24 hours, and more likely, shortly before she >posted. If it was a kitten that was found 3 years ago, wouldn't the >thread title have been, "HELP me save a cat"? The OP didn't say when the cat was fouhnd or how old it was. So it could have been found three years ago and was "adopted" three years ago. > You're working awfully hard to paint her as an incompetent and >thoughtless person. That "3 years ago" bit was just plain a silly thing >to suggest. But the bottom line is you get medical attention from those trained to give the cat medical attention. That medical attention is not to be found on a usenet newsgroup. There is a show on Animal Planet where they site owners or neglecting animals in a city, if you tell them you posted something Usenet they will confiscate the animal, bring it to their own vet, and cite you for neglect. These animal officers have full police power and can take action. >> When have something medically wrong with a cat you should consult >> a veterinarian, not a usenet newsgroup. After all that is the [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ttyl, > Amur_ exactly i'd do the same instead of paying 100's in vet bills on a cat that didn't belong to me in the first place. f.cking right i would. >> We don't know the circumstances she's asking under. Is it after >> business hours where she is (where I am, her post went up at 10pm at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> long it can take to get a decent reply (kudos to Matthew for catching >> her in less than 10 minutes. ^_^ .) >exactly i'd do the same instead of paying 100's in >vet bills on a cat that didn't belong to me in the >first place. f.cking right i would. But the point is if you came home today and found you're mom/dad/ husband/wife/brother/sister had a heart attack, you'd get them to the hospital fast. You wouldn't get on a usenet newsgroup and ask "my realitve had a heart attack what do I do?" You're cat deserves the same consideration. There is a reason veteranarians go to school all those years to learn what to do with when an animal needs medical atttention. >>> We don't know the circumstances she's asking under. Is it after >>>business hours where she is (where I am, her post went up at 10pm at [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- hehe yeah that's my family! And if it's my cat i'd rush it to the vet! But if it's a sick cat i find on the side of the road and hardly making ends meet i might consult a newsgroup. I don't know. I haven't been in that situation. I am a compassionate person that loves cats so i can't say for sure. I wouldn't leave the cat though. So if it didn't seem life and death i may ask usenet before i rushed it to the vet. Rat. >hehe yeah that's my family! And if it's my cat >i'd rush it to the vet! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >So if it didn't seem life and death i may ask >usenet before i rushed it to the vet. But the OP said this cat was found. For all we know the cat was "found" three years ago and is now owned by the OP. [snip] > But if it's a sick cat i find on the side of the > road and hardly making ends meet i might consult a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So if it didn't seem life and death i may ask > usenet before i rushed it to the vet. Vet first, worry about the cost afterwards. EVERY TIME. Do you love cats or don't you..? Ivor >exactly i'd do the same instead of paying 100's in >vet bills on a cat that didn't belong to me in the >first place. f.cking right i would. The OP said they found the cat. They don't say when they found the cat....for all we know it could have been three years ago which may mean it is now their cat. >>exactly i'd do the same instead of paying 100's in >>vet bills on a cat that didn't belong to me in the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- That is true. I still hold firm if it was my cat for sure i'd get it medical attention, especially a cat i've owned and grown to love. If i find a stray like that i may digress on sending straight to the vet, although i cannot even say for sure. I c every1's point of view on this issue. > > exactly i'd do the same instead of paying 100's in > > vet bills on a cat that didn't belong to me in the > > first place. f.cking right i would. > The OP said they found the cat. They don't say when they > found the cat....for all we know it could have been three > years ago which may mean it is now their cat. She also said kitten, which if it were 3 years ago wouldn't hold true, now would it..? Ivor >She also said kitten, which if it were 3 years ago wouldn't hold true, now >would it..? Kitten also could be 11 months, 29 days old. Meaning the OP could have had it 1 short of a YEAR. >She also said kitten, which if it were 3 years ago wouldn't hold true, now >would it..? BTW, to an untrained eye a cat of three years old could still be considered a "kitten" When Ornery came into our lives last year, I thought he was only about 8-9 weeks old. He seemed so little! But when we took him to the vet to have him checked out, the Vet said he was at least 12 weeks old! Even though I have had cats from the day they were born, I had forgotten what their size would be in different weeks. So, true, one man's kitten could be another man's cat. >>She also said kitten, which if it were 3 years ago wouldn't hold true, now >>would it..? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- You're stupid. Really. I mean it. Dumb as a dog is dumb. If you couldn't find the humor in or rhetorical nature of my response, then well...I guess there's no hope for you. What struck me about the initial post was the the lady was complaining about a KITTEN'S EYES BEING SHUT! This was obviously a complete dipshit or a someone pranking this group. Kittens' eyes are shut for one reason: THEY'RE NOT READY TO OPEN YET!!!! Have you noticed she hasn't responded? You got pranked....and by a stupid prank. >> What is it about the "Internet" that enables people to ask and FOLLOW >> the medical advice of TOTAL STRANGERS who may or MAY NOT know a damn [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > ttyl, > Amur_ >I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth and >tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while cleaning--I >have now opened her eyes, but they are swollen--I have a solution that was >precribed for my husband which he never used--can this be used to treat here >eyes? The name is Polymyxin B Sulfate and Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution. >PLease hurry--I need to help her--thanks so much!! I'd take the cat to the vet to have the eyes looked at. Do not, under any circustances give the cat your husbands prescription. The vet will run tests, examine the eys and then tell you what can/should be done. But human strength prescription can be enough to kill/seriously hurt a cat. (Bear in mind the medicine is designed for a human who weighs 200+ pounds can you're giving it to a animal who weighs 10 pounds.) >>I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth and >>tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while cleaning--I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- a kitten that weighs 10 pounds???????????????????????????????????? "Foundryrat" <foundryrat27@SPAMFREEyahoo.com> wrote in message > a kitten that weighs 10 > pounds???????????????????????????????????? I think that's entirely possible. I'm not quite sure how many months old a kitten is when it graduates to adult status, but my Deetoo at 9 months weight in a 8 pounds. She's 12 months old now and weighs 12 pounds. Got to admit, she's one hefty cat. Not fat, just wide and thick. And, she still romps around like a kitten only her size makes her about as destructive as a loose 10 pin bowling ball. > "Foundryrat" <foundryrat27@SPAMFREEyahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And, she still romps around like a kitten only her size makes her about as > destructive as a loose 10 pin bowling ball. hehe my folks had a fat cat weighed 17 pounds. Wasn't solid it was just fat! Now it's older health isn't the best it wiehgs 11 pounds, but it's old and still alive! Fat cats live old too! "Foundryrat" <foundryrat27@SPAMFREEyahoo.com> wrote in message > hehe my folks had a fat cat weighed 17 pounds. > Wasn't solid it was just fat! Now it's older I heard on the news recently about a cat that weighed in close to 45 pounds. A cat that big would scare the crap out of me. >"Foundryrat" <foundryrat27@SPAMFREEyahoo.com> wrote in message >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I heard on the news recently about a cat that weighed in close to 45 pounds. >A cat that big would scare the crap out of me. If you watch Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSNBC he had a feature on a cat that weighed 33 pounds, a second cat that weighs 45 pounds. > "Foundryrat" <foundryrat27@SPAMFREEyahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I heard on the news recently about a cat that weighed in close to 45 pounds. > A cat that big would scare the crap out of me. Cat-zilla!!! > I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth > and tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution. PLease hurry--I need to help > her--thanks so much!! As a fully-qualified vet, I can assure you that the medication you mention is totally safe to use on a cat. Add some household bleach to the Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution for added disinfectant properties. The Vet. "The Vet" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message > As a fully-qualified vet, I can assure you that the medication you mention > is totally safe to use on a cat. Add some household bleach to the > Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution for added disinfectant properties. DON'T YOU DARE ADD ANY A MIXTURE OF OPHTHALMIC SOLUTION AND BLEACH TO A CAT'S EYES. BLEACH WILL DAMAGE A CAT'S EYES BEYOND ANY CHANCE OF A CURE. INSTEAD, JUST TAKE THE BLEACH AND GIVE "THE VET" AN ENEMA WITH IT. >As a fully-qualified vet, I can assure you that the medication you mention >is totally safe to use on a cat. Add some household bleach to the >Trimethoprim Ophthalmic Solution for added disinfectant properties. Except that Bleach is a poison and they warn on the label to avoid eye contact. >>I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth >>and tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Vet. you are a sick mother f..ker, and should be shot. This is not a vet, this is the type of person who will end up being a serial killer 5 years down the road. >>I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth >>and tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Vet. hehe you should try that in your eyes vet. And if i saw you with the same problem side the road i'd leave ya there. HEheheheehehehe your sick, dude! >> I found a kitten and her eyes are sealed shut . I used a clean wash cloth >> and tried to clean her eyes. A milky white seepage came out while [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Vet. You are sick, sick, sick. What you send out will come back to you.. MLB "The Vet" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> What a f.cking a.shole Due the world a favor Walk out in traffic blind folded but before you do that slap your mother for not swallowing and bring such a piece of sh.t into the world Seems what we have here is some one who went.... 'You know, this newsgroup is getting pretty boring, I think I'll post something that will get all these animal lovers all riled up.' 'Hmmmm, I know, I'll find a kitten with it's eyes 'sealed' shut; then ask if it's ok to continue to use some old (read expired) prescription medication on him/her to try to get them open.' Now being the 'Animal rights wacko' I am; I know for a fact there are people this clueless and don't have the intellectual capacity to catch even half a clue. Since the original poster hasn't even responded to the 30 some responses; and their profile shows this is the only post they have ever done, I am concluding this is a prank to stir up activity. And certainly, a very tasteless one. With that said, and like other posters have pointed out; DON'T EVER give a animal you find human medications. Don't be a tight wad and try to be a vet or ask for medical advice on usenet. Take the animal to your local vet or animal shelter. Craig |
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