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alt4 - 19 Mar 2006 19:19 GMT
Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee there. Every time she
walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food. Not
whatever is already in there. Now the question; could she be sublimating
food (what little she eats because she's in no way overweight) for love? She
is having problems with one of our other cats who is much younger and
Rainbow also has this allergy to fleas that seems to be flaring up every now
and then. Rather than a long story which I can do (she was our second cat)
I'll end here. I'll look forward to what anyone can say.

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Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) - 19 Mar 2006 19:27 GMT
Are you in the kitchen at the time when she does this  and what type of dry
food are you using
mlbriggs - 19 Mar 2006 19:27 GMT
> Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee there. Every time she
> walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food. Not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and then. Rather than a long story which I can do (she was our second cat)
> I'll end here. I'll look forward to what anyone can say.

she sounds just like a cat.
Ivor Jones - 20 Mar 2006 13:45 GMT
> > Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee
> > there. Every time she walks into the kitchen and sees
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>
> she sounds just like a cat.

Yep. My Missy is exactly the same..! Someone only has to glance at the
kitchen door and she's there..!

Ivor
Anna - 19 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
>Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee there. Every time she
>walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food. Not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>and then. Rather than a long story which I can do (she was our second cat)
>I'll end here. I'll look forward to what anyone can say.

I have one that doesn't like it when there is only a bit left in the bowl;
instead of eating it, she'll cry for me to add more when the amount already
in there is more than enough for her to eat in one sitting.  If I add more,
she only eats a small amount at a time so she very well could have eaten what
was left in the bowl instead!  Strange.  Your Rainbow sounds the same.  

If you just got a new younger cat, give Rainbow extra attention by playing
and cuddling with her; she could be jealous of the newcomer and you need to
reassure her that she's still number one.

Anna
studio - 20 Mar 2006 02:57 GMT
> Every time she
> walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food. Not
> whatever is already in there. Now the question; could she be sublimating
> food (what little she eats because she's in no way overweight) for love?

lol....my Big Mama sometimes does the same thing.
I guess she figures, you're getting fresh food, so why not her too.
The bowl she has is one of those dual bowls, 1 for food 1 for water.
If she has plenty food in it, I'll put fresh water in it.....now she
can eat.
It's almost as though they just want you to notice their food situation
and decide for them whether it's satisfactory or not.
Sometimes I'll just tap the food compartment with my finger, then pet
her,
and before you know it, she's eating what's there.
They may also be looking for the occasional tid-bit of whatever you're
having.
Food and love to a cat can sometimes be the same thing.
As long as they know you are paying attention, she should be fine.
Valkyrie - 20 Mar 2006 07:23 GMT
My cat has one of those auto feeder things, I put 5lbs of kibble in it and
he's good for a month, however he has his days when
it's..........mrrrrrrrrow, look at my food, I need more food............I
reach down, stir up  the food with my finger and he's just so happy I've fed
him he purrs the whole time he's crunching away. LOL It's a cat thing, roll
with it.

Val
Upscale - 20 Mar 2006 16:00 GMT
"Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message

> My cat has one of those auto feeder things, I put 5lbs of kibble in it and
> he's good for a month, however he has his days when
> it's..........mrrrrrrrrow, look at my food, I need more food.

I have one of those too, but I've only been in the habit of putting in a cup
of kibble once every evening. It's probably a good thing I do that too. I
was gone for three days in the hospital at the beginning of February and I
had a friend come in to half fill the auto feeder container. I swear when I
came back home my cat was three pounds heavier and about four inches longer.
I'm afraid to let her eat what she wants for fear that I'm going to end up
with a monster on my hands.
Valkyrie - 20 Mar 2006 19:14 GMT
> "Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message
>>
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> I'm afraid to let her eat what she wants for fear that I'm going to end up
> with a monster on my hands.

I know this can be a problem but I've been using the feeder for about 13
years and I'm lucky enough to have one of those cats who only eats what he
needs, weight was never a problem. My son's cats would eat till they
exploded if he left unmonitored food out. The problem now is keeping weight
on him. He's 16 and instead of going to pudgy like so many older cats do
mine leans more to the skeletor phase. Now I mix his premium kibble 1/2 &
1/2 with high calorie senior food and higher calorie kitten food and he
keeps stabilized at 8 1/2 pounds. He's been that weight for just about as
long as I have had him. ( I found him when he was about 3 years old) The vet
is always amazed that he is such a healthy, active senior. He looks like a
mini Maine Coon and has a shiny coat that feels like mink and all his teeth
are in great shape......no, I don't brush them, he wouldn't stand for it.
The vet says to leave them alone, he sees no reason to put him asleep to
clean them at his age if there isn't a problem.

I just wish the kitty fountain I got  had a larger reservoir so I wouldn't
have to fill it every two days. He's a big water drinker, which is why I
don't worry about him only eating dry food, he won't touch wet food of any
kind. If it doesn't crunch he's not interested. He'll pass up any kind of
people food even $9 a pound poached salmon. geeeze.  The only people stuff
he wants is a Fudgecicle. Then he goes nuts!  I have a fudgecicle in the
freezer in a plastic bag and he licks on it till his lips and tongue are
about frozen. Then he stares at me with the end of his tongue sticking out
until it "thaws" and he can get it back in his mouth and then walks off. I
just wrap it back up and put it back in the door shelf.  One fudgecicle
lasts about 3 months, pretty cost effective treat  LOL

Val
mlbriggs - 20 Mar 2006 19:48 GMT
>> "Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message
>>>
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>
> Val

The fudgecicle story is interesting.  I have read though that chocolate is
harmful to cats.  Perhaps another flavor would be better -- but what
flavor?   Perhaps a home made one of tuna juice?   Or lactaid milk?  Or
even a little cream?
best wishes.   MLB
Valkyrie - 21 Mar 2006 08:41 GMT
> The fudgecicle story is interesting.  I have read though that chocolate is
> harmful to cats.  Perhaps another flavor would be better -- but what
> flavor?   Perhaps a home made one of tuna juice?   Or lactaid milk?  Or
> even a little cream?
> best wishes.   MLB

The fudgecicle has been his thing for about 5 years, I seriously doubt if
there's enough chocolate in one of those to make that much difference plus
the fact that a two or three time a week treat and the one fudgecicle lasts
3 months, just how much of this 'poison' do you really think he's ingesting?
BTW, my vet is dead set against giving cats milk or cream. My cat won't have
anything to do with any ice cream. I have a cat that won't drink cream or
milk and will walk right by a can of tuna, oil or water packed and not even
twitch a whisker. He turns his nose up at any kind of fresh cooked or raw
fish and you couldn't shove a piece of chicken down his throat if you tried.
It's dry, crunchy kibble and fudgecicle treats, that's it.......he's a CAT,
I don't try to figure it out. I figure if he's alive and healthy at 16 no
big deal, if it works why fix it. OH, I just went and looked at the wrapper
and it says "chocolate flavoring" about mid way on listed ingredients.
Probably not nearly as lethal as a Godiva fudge truffle, which he wouldn't
eat anyway.  LOL

Val
mlbriggs - 21 Mar 2006 18:46 GMT
>> The fudgecicle story is interesting.  I have read though that chocolate is
>> harmful to cats.  Perhaps another flavor would be better -- but what
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>
> Val

You are so right.  All of my previous cats loved raw liver.  TuTu will not
touch anything raw.  She loves fish but will not touch beef.  She will eat
a half teaspoon of ice cream.  I found a treat named PitterPat that she
loves, but only gets one or two every week or so.  She also prefers Iams
kibble.  Good luck.   MLB
Upscale - 20 Mar 2006 20:56 GMT
"Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message
> kind. If it doesn't crunch he's not interested. He'll pass up any kind of
> people food even $9 a pound poached salmon. geeeze.  The only people stuff
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> just wrap it back up and put it back in the door shelf.  One fudgecicle
> lasts about 3 months, pretty cost effective treat  LOL

Sounds exactly like my Deetoo, except that she's only a year old so I'm
still a little bit in the experimental period when it comes to her eating.
If I'm eating *anything* she's all over me wanting to know what it is,
except that she won't eat it if I offer her anything. The kibble is the only
thing she will eat except for cheese, then she goes nuts for that. I only
give her a very tiny piece when I do and that seems to hold her until the
next time I go into the kitchen. Makes for a very simple diet, kibble and
water. Gave up a while ago when it comes to buying something different for
her. She doesn't like fish, shrimp, cream, tuna, ice cream or anything else,
just the kibble.
Mike - 21 Mar 2006 00:31 GMT
Every night Isis and I have the same routine. She goes to the bowl. The dry
food may be, oh, 4 hours old. Anyway, she sits there until I come over, get
down on the floor, and remove a couple of pieces from the bowl and put them
on the rug. Then she eats them. I repeat the procedure about 8 times. Then
we are done.

This is how she starts her eating engine.

She prefers food that is fresh from the bag and not more than half a day
old. I do all I can to accommodate her at all times. I used to be a man,
free of spirit and independent. Now I am a lowly cat slave who scratches
ears and watches food bowls.

Mike in Illinois

> Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee there. Every time she
> walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food. Not
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> now and then. Rather than a long story which I can do (she was our second
> cat) I'll end here. I'll look forward to what anyone can say.
Valkyrie - 21 Mar 2006 08:50 GMT
You have adjusted and accepted your fate as a kitty minion, Mike.  I'm proud
of you......might as well just go along with the program. You can try to
fight it but it's so demoralizing when you find out your a**  was just
whooped and/or out maneuvered by an little furball 1/20th your size.

Perhaps we should start a new 12 Step Program........Hello, My name is Mike
and I am a lowly cat minion.........then the other two hundred thousand
people seated in the stadium (too many for most public meeting places) that
Thursday night would knowingly nod their heads and make sounds of sympathy
and understanding.

* sigh *

Val

> Every night Isis and I have the same routine. She goes to the bowl. The
> dry food may be, oh, 4 hours old. Anyway, she sits there until I come
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>> now and then. Rather than a long story which I can do (she was our second
>> cat) I'll end here. I'll look forward to what anyone can say.
Upscale - 21 Mar 2006 13:51 GMT
"Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message

> Perhaps we should start a new 12 Step Program........Hello, My name is Mike
> and I am a lowly cat minion.........then the other two hundred thousand
> people seated in the stadium (too many for most public meeting places) that

My 12 steps to freedom:
1. I will not run to feed my cat at the first sound of a meow.
2. I will not run to stroke or pet my cat as soon as he/she meows.
3. I will not feel guilty for some reason when my cat stares at me and
meows.
4. I will not spend all my extra money on a cat treat or toy just because I
passed it in the store.
5. I will not give up my seat on the furniture because my cat gives me the
evil eye.
6. I will not feel bad because my cat ignores me completely when I want
attention.
7. I will not allow my cat to lay on the desk in front of me when I'm trying
to use the computer.
8. I will ignore my cat when I have the bedroom door closed and he/she wants
in.
9. I will not allow my cat to walk all over me when I'm trying to sleep.
10. I will not allow my cat to curl up in my arms when I want to do
something else.
11. I will not allow my cat to pull all the drying laundry off the coat
hangers.
12. I will not tell my friends that I have to go home because someone is
expecting me.
BACBP - 21 Mar 2006 14:00 GMT
When's the next meeting? ;-)

> My 12 steps to freedom:
> 1. I will not run to feed my cat at the first sound of a meow.
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> 12. I will not tell my friends that I have to go home because someone is
> expecting me.
Mike - 21 Mar 2006 17:52 GMT
Step 1 is always the hardest, isn't it? I want to get up right away and
check the bowl. She is telling me something. Where have I failed? Step 3 is
another toughie. I think it's all about my failure as a cat owner. Nothing I
do seems like it's ever enough.

I bought the kitty nest. I bought the heating pad. I scratch her ears every
time she reaches out and grabs me from her box that is under the special 250
watt bulb I bought on the net because Wal-Mart doesn't have them. I drive in
the rain for special canned food from the vet that costs $30.00 a case.
Nothing I do is ever good enough.

Thank you for listening.

Mike in Illinois

1. I will not run to feed my cat at the first sound of a meow.

3. I will not feel guilty for some reason when my cat stares at me and
meows.

> "Valkyrie" <YawShur@YahBetcha.org> wrote in message
>>
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> 12. I will not tell my friends that I have to go home because someone is
> expecting me.
studio - 21 Mar 2006 18:15 GMT
> My 12 steps to freedom:

lol....

> 1. I will not run to feed my cat at the first sound of a meow.

Then kitty will jump on the kitchen counter and wreek havoc.

> 2. I will not run to stroke or pet my cat as soon as he/she meows.

Depends on the meow. Some meows mean "keep your hands off me
or you'll reget it". Pay attention.

> 3. I will not feel guilty for some reason when my cat stares at me and
> meows.

You may not feel guilt, but you will pay for it.

> 4. I will not spend all my extra money on a cat treat or toy just because I
> passed it in the store.

You can pay now, or you can pay later....but you will pay.

> 5. I will not give up my seat on the furniture because my cat gives me the
> evil eye.

When you get up to get something, kitty will take your seat anyway.
Kitty's are masters at playing the waiting game, so her evil eye is
just
kitty's way of wondering why you're so stupid.

> 6. I will not feel bad because my cat ignores me completely when I want
> attention.

That's fair enough, kitty won't feel guilty about it either.

> 7. I will not allow my cat to lay on the desk in front of me when I'm trying
> to use the computer.

Kitty won't bother you as long as you're posting to alt.pets.cats or
other cat
related Web sites.

> 8. I will ignore my cat when I have the bedroom door closed and he/she wants
> in.

Then I hope you like staying awake all night.

> 9. I will not allow my cat to walk all over me when I'm trying to sleep.

See, I told you you were going to let kitty in.

> 10. I will not allow my cat to curl up in my arms when I want to do
> something else.

You'd rather trip over kitty?

> 11. I will not allow my cat to pull all the drying laundry off the coat
> hangers.

Fortuneatly I don't have that problem. Sounds like kitty doesn't want
you to go out.

> 12. I will not tell my friends that I have to go home because someone is
> expecting me.

Not a problem as you won't be going out and what friends you do have
will
have to come over and visit you instead. Providing they don't own a
cat.

Good attempt though.
I'lll give you an A for effort, but a D- for realism.
;)
Upscale - 22 Mar 2006 13:19 GMT
"studio" <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Good attempt though.
> I'lll give you an A for effort, but a D- for realism.
> ;)

You're saying that I'm doomed no matter what I do. So, what else is new?
studio - 21 Mar 2006 06:51 GMT
> Our oldest, Rainbow only eats dry food- no biggee there. Every time she
> walks into the kitchen and sees her bowl she wants food, new food.

My dad's dog Mikey (some sort of terrier), won't eat unless he's
spoon fed!
My Big Mama is spoiled, but I'm pretty sure she would slap the sh*t out
of Mikey.

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