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azspecter@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2006 01:01 GMT
My cat has been acting funny the last few months. She meows quite often
for no reason- usually when she comes into a room. 2 months ago she
started to urinate on the floors or on piles of clothes/towels on the
floor. I've noticed that many times, whether she's outside or inside,
she squats to urinate, but nothing comes out. She doesn't act funny, or
in pain or anything otherwise. We have the clumping litter, and I know
she IS urinating based off the clumps in the litter box. Is there a
reason to be concerned, or, is she just being a funny old cat? She was
a stray, so I believe she's about 7 years old now. Any help is
appreciated...
mlbriggs - 08 Mar 2006 01:07 GMT
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:01:21 -0800, azspecter wrote:

> My cat has been acting funny the last few months. She meows quite often
> for no reason- usually when she comes into a room. 2 months ago she
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> a stray, so I believe she's about 7 years old now. Any help is
> appreciated..

Why don't you help her by taking her to the Vet?MLB
azspecter@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2006 02:27 GMT
I have an appointment tomorrow- just wanted to make sure I wasn't
overreacting
NanCe - 08 Mar 2006 05:23 GMT
>I have an appointment tomorrow- just wanted to make sure I wasn't
>overreacting

No, you're definitely not overreacting; she sounds like she is in discomfort
most likely due to a bladder problem; this can become serious (blocked
bladder) if left untreated.  Glad to see you have an appointment.

NanCe
mlbriggs - 08 Mar 2006 06:20 GMT
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:27:41 -0800, azspecter wrote:

> I have an appointment tomorrow- just wanted to make sure I wasn't
> overreacting


Great!  Be sure to let us know how it goes.  Purrs that she will have a
quick recovery.   MLB
azspecter@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2006 22:44 GMT
She has some bladder stones. Urine tests also shows a PH of 6.5 and a
large amount of blood is present. The Vet said that the PH level is
typically indicative of the type of stones that cannot just be flushed
out or treated without surgery. However, she did say that the PH can
fluxuate throughout the day and that's not a solid test. I'm not sure
why they made me get the test when they cannot have any hard results-
but whatever. Either way, she's on some pain meds the next few days,
and some anti-biotics for a week. Hopefully during the next month
she'll be ok, no more signs of problems.  However- the vet said that if
it prolongs, then surgery will be required. Unfortunately, $1000 for
surgery isn't an option, so I'll need to put her down at that point.
But, let's keep our fingers crossed that the meds take care of the
problem all together.

She also suggested getting her on wet food to help increase fluid
intake- maybe even use one of those water fountains since she loves
drinking out of the sink soo much. Thanks for the help guys!  Keep your
fingers crossed for my little Daisy!!!
Neil (The Geriatric Hippy) - 11 Mar 2006 10:09 GMT
Our Tink had this problem when she was about 9mnths old.  The vet put her on
Hills Feline C/D dry food.  She is now 16Yrs old and dashing about like an
idiot.

We leave the C/D available 24/7 together with some normal dry stuff.  Tink
only eats the C/D and Smudge the normal stuff?  They both also have a little
tinned/pouch/foil food twice a day.  The water dish is available 24/7 and
changed twice a day.

Cheers Neil.

> She has some bladder stones. Urine tests also shows a PH of 6.5 and a
> large amount of blood is present. The Vet said that the PH level is
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> drinking out of the sink soo much. Thanks for the help guys!  Keep your
> fingers crossed for my little Daisy!!!
azspecter@gmail.com - 13 Mar 2006 23:29 GMT
UPDATE
Spoke with the Vet- she suggested CDX or CDOX for her food- to mix it
in with existing food. But- she said she had no crystals to make a
decision over. She highly doubted that the food/medicine would flush
out the stones,and she would require surgery to do it. She said there's
another procedure where she forces the stones out by hand- but there's
a good chance that wouldn't work and she'd need the surgery anyways. In
which case, I gotta put her down.

So, Im not sure if the food will help her pass these stones or not? Can
anyone tell me? Also- does anyone know if places like the Animal
Welfare League can take in cats, give them the proper care and adopt
them out?
Thanks
Kelcey - 14 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT
>Spoke with the Vet- she suggested CDX or CDOX for her food- to mix it
>in with existing food. But- she said she had no crystals to make a
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>a good chance that wouldn't work and she'd need the surgery anyways. In
>which case, I gotta put her down.

There are struvite crystals - those are the kind of crystals that can be
dissolved using food such as Hill's s/d and then the cat is maintained on
Hill's c/d.  Then there are calcium oxalate crystals.  Surgery is the only
thing that can get rid of those.  Then the cat would be put on Hill's x/d so
that she doesn't develop them again.

>So, Im not sure if the food will help her pass these stones or not? Can
>anyone tell me? Also- does anyone know if places like the Animal
>Welfare League can take in cats, give them the proper care and adopt
>them out?

Why?  Are you thinking of giving her up because of this?  Some veterinarians
will let you work out a payment plan with them so that you can pay a little
each month, or you can give up some other things in order to save money for
her operation, if she needs one.
azspecter@gmail.com - 14 Mar 2006 02:16 GMT
We were considering giving her up before this. However, a $1,000
surgery just doesn't work for us. The vet thought they were the oxalate
crystals, and is suggesting to do either the surgery or the other
procedure to take care of it. I just can't rationalize the $1500 in
total on this cat at this time.

So- is there anything we can look for here in the next couple weeks to
see if she does start getting to feel better? I'd hate to put her down
if she doesn't need to be- and the vet isn't giving me a direct answer
as to if she can pass these on her own or not. She's saying that based
on PH and the way the stones look- they look to be oxalate. But,
without surgery, there's no way to know. I just cannot justify the cost
of the surgery, and her suffering isn't an option either.
Thanks
Kelcey - 14 Mar 2006 03:23 GMT
>We were considering giving her up before this. However, a $1,000
>surgery just doesn't work for us. The vet thought they were the oxalate
>crystals, and is suggesting to do either the surgery or the other
>procedure to take care of it. I just can't rationalize the $1500 in
>total on this cat at this time.

How can she flush out the stones "by hand"??  If she requires surgerys, have
you asked her if there is a way you can pay for it in installments?   I doubt
very much that a shelter would like to receive a cat that requires surgery as
they usually don't have a lot of money.  

>So- is there anything we can look for here in the next couple weeks to
>see if she does start getting to feel better? I'd hate to put her down
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>of the surgery, and her suffering isn't an option either.
>Thanks

If your vet can't give you answers, perhaps it's time for a second opinion.
Why can't you justify the cost of the surgery?  She's only 7 years old; she
has a lot of years left in her, it's not like she's 17 and only has a few
years left.
Anna - 14 Mar 2006 05:41 GMT
>We were considering giving her up before this. However, a $1,000
>surgery just doesn't work for us. The vet thought they were the oxalate
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>of the surgery, and her suffering isn't an option either.
>Thanks

Our cat had a blocked bladder which ended up costing $700.  We put it on our
Visa card and paid it off when we could (and no, my husband and I aren't
rich; I had even just recently lost my job, but you find a way if you have to)
.

Anna
azspecter@gmail.com - 14 Mar 2006 07:04 GMT
Let's just leave it at that $1000 for a surgery doesn't work for us. If
someone here wants to hand out $1k, that's great and I'd be very
grateful. However, I know that'll never happen, so case closed.

Now- the vet had some medical name for the other procedure- where it's
not surgery, but she can manipulate the bladder by hand to force out
the stones- but she said there was a chance it wouldn't work. Not sure
the proper name, but that's it.

What do you guys think about the food supplement? Is it worth it- or,
in the end, are my choices still going to be the same- surgery or put
her down?

Thanks for the help- I really do appreciate it.
 
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