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edie humperdink - 28 Feb 2006 17:50 GMT
is it more cost effective to give your cat fresh cooked chicken and
rice, instead of buying the stuff in cans?  I mean, the stuff in cans
is probably gizzards and grist, while I can give my kitty chicken
breast at a cheaper price if I cook it myself!
Joan in GB-W - 28 Feb 2006 19:51 GMT
> is it more cost effective to give your cat fresh cooked chicken and
> rice, instead of buying the stuff in cans?  I mean, the stuff in cans
> is probably gizzards and grist, while I can give my kitty chicken
> breast at a cheaper price if I cook it myself!

Your cat probably doesn't care what part of the chicken he eats.

Joan
edie humperdink - 28 Feb 2006 21:06 GMT
but eating breast meat is far more healthy than eating gizzards and
a*holes.
LMR - 28 Feb 2006 21:18 GMT
>but eating breast meat is far more healthy than eating gizzards and
>a*holes.

If your cat food contains a*holes, you need to start buying brand name foods
then.
edie humperdink - 04 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT
i'm sure cat food contains a*holes.  do you know how greasy cat food
is?  try picking up a handful of dry pellents.  hold them for 30
seconds.  you will find that your hand is very greasy.
Upscale - 04 Mar 2006 02:29 GMT
"edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> i'm sure cat food contains a*holes.

You mean to tell me that cat food contains edies?
Kelcey - 28 Feb 2006 21:14 GMT
>is it more cost effective to give your cat fresh cooked chicken and
>rice, instead of buying the stuff in cans?  I mean, the stuff in cans
>is probably gizzards and grist, while I can give my kitty chicken
>breast at a cheaper price if I cook it myself!

Why not call the manufacturer and ask them what's in their product.  Even if
it's not all meat, so what.  Animals eat the insides of their prey, it's good
for them.  If you think just chicken breast and rice would provide proper
nutrition for your cat, you have a lot to learn.
edie humperdink - 02 Mar 2006 00:58 GMT
animals eat the insides of their prey, which means they eat a lot of
breast meat.

in canned food, i bet there is almost no breast meat.  so cats are not
getting their fair share of breast or drum sticks.  my cat loves drum
sticks.
AlexZ - 28 Feb 2006 21:50 GMT
: is it more cost effective to give your cat fresh cooked chicken and
: rice, instead of buying the stuff in cans?  I mean, the stuff in cans
: is probably gizzards and grist, while I can give my kitty chicken
: breast at a cheaper price if I cook it myself!

While you may be able to give better quality meat, unfortunately it
won't meet all her nutrional needs. Taurine is often cited. Anyway, in
nature she wouldn't just have eaten "chicken breast". :-)

Personally, I wouldn't mind if somebody would put out a "sauce" that
was guaranteed to provide all nutrients (in say 2 tablespoons) except
protein and I could add my own good-quality meat.

I don't know if such a thing exists or is even makes sense.
Spider - 03 Mar 2006 15:37 GMT
> is it more cost effective to give your cat fresh cooked chicken and
> rice, instead of buying the stuff in cans?  I mean, the stuff in cans
> is probably gizzards and grist, while I can give my kitty chicken
> breast at a cheaper price if I cook it myself!

Edie,

Please stick to giving your cat quality premium cat food.  Chicken and rice
may be fine for a treat, but it doesn't contain all the supplements and
trace elements that your cat needs for good health.

Spider
edie humperdink - 03 Mar 2006 21:47 GMT
I like to stick real chicken breast into their dry chicken & rice
pellets as a treat.

I do know a man who fed his cat store-cooked roast chicken regularly.
Whenever he had roast
chicken, he'd share half if the bird with his cat.  The cat lived to a
healthy 13 years of age.
Kelcey - 04 Mar 2006 00:00 GMT
>I like to stick real chicken breast into their dry chicken & rice
>pellets as a treat.
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>chicken, he'd share half if the bird with his cat.  The cat lived to a
>healthy 13 years of age.

Hope you're not doing that all the time, just once in awhile.  Adding other
food to the cat food will throw the nutrients off balance.  Maybe it's just
me but 13 isn't that old to live to.

Kelcey
Spider - 04 Mar 2006 12:16 GMT
> >I like to stick real chicken breast into their dry chicken & rice
> >pellets as a treat.
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I agree, Kelcey.  Half of even a very good chicken intended for human
consumption is definitely not a balanced and nutritious meal for a cat.
Thirteen, as you say, is not a particularly good age for a cat.  My
ex-Tiggypuss lived to be 22 yrs of age, and I've heard of cats living to
nearly 30.

If you're reading this, Edie, please please keep chicken for an occasional
treat, but feed your beloved cat a proprietory balanced food.
Cost-effectiveness should not be confused with caring.  I believe you do
care.  If you doubt what this group is telling you, have a chat with your
vet.  I don't know how old your cat is, but it might be necessary to start
feeding with a 'senior' cat food to take account of the changes in your
cat's maturer body.

Spider
edie humperdink - 04 Mar 2006 17:57 GMT
I've heard that the only difference between kitten and adult and senior
food
is that kitten food is much more nutritious.
If kitten food is more nutritious, then isn't it smarter to always buy
kitten
food and just feed less volume?  save money!

> > >I like to stick real chicken breast into their dry chicken & rice
> > >pellets as a treat.
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>
> Spider
Kelcey - 04 Mar 2006 20:49 GMT
>I've heard that the only difference between kitten and adult and senior
>food
>is that kitten food is much more nutritious.
>If kitten food is more nutritious, then isn't it smarter to always buy
>kitten
>food and just feed less volume?  save money!

Kitten food is much too high in fat, calories, magnesium, calcium and
phosphorus for an adult cat and especially for a senior.

Kelcey
edie humperdink - 04 Mar 2006 21:14 GMT
> Kitten food is much too high in fat, calories, magnesium, calcium and phosphorus for an adult cat and especially for a senior.

well, then, just put out smaller portions and save money!
Kelcey - 05 Mar 2006 04:00 GMT
>well, then, just put out smaller portions and save money!

You don't seem to understand.  It will be too high in nutrients for your
senior.  Kittens and seniors have different nutritional needs.  Here's some
links that provide good info.

http://www.petdiets.com/default.asp?Menu=Nutrition&PageName=/facts/lifestage.asp

http://www.petdiets.com/default.asp?Menu=FAQs&PageName=/faqs/default.asp

Kelcey
edie humperdink - 05 Mar 2006 05:16 GMT
but if you water down the kitty food with chicken broth, noodles,
carrots, and chicken breast, then the nutrients would not be as high.

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