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Cat Forum / General Topics / February 2006Veterinary secrets revealed in eBook...
Dr. Andrew Jones has published an eBook, Veterinary Secrets Revealed, which provides over 1,000 safe, natural and effective pet care treatments that you can use at home. Read more about this awesome book at... http://cdcda.vetsecrets.hop.clickbank.net tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about once every 5 years, except when sick. > tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about > once every 5 years, except when sick. Except that around here cats need annual shots/vaccinations. To not get those shots/vaccinations is a violation of the law. Those must be administered by a vet. Also the vet maintains records on rabies vaccines, etc., all required by law. I don't want to read the rest of what this person is advising since this one tip here is illegal. >tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about >once every 5 years, except when sick. That's ridiculous. Cats can hide disease and sometimes you don't even know they have it. If I had waited 5 years from my cat's last checkup to bring her in, I wouldn't have known she had kidney disease and it would have gotten worse if left untreated. By finding out about it early, I was able to do something about it which has stopped it from progressing at a faster rate. Dangerous advice. Anna > tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about > once every 5 years, except when sick. Edie you need to STFU when you don't know what you are talking about ANYONE who follows or gives advice like that is asking for trouble Your funny sometimes that is why they put up with you out here you keep stupid advice up like this and don't be surprised that you don't get b@tch slapped nmr, i did read in "cats for dummies" book that a kitten needs vaccinations for his first 2 years. After that, visiting the vet every year is optional. Why would a young, healthy age 3-6 cat need to go to the vet regularly? Annual checkups are gimmicks the vets dreamt up to make money. If you know of a good reason or a law (in New York), do correct me. "edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message > nmr, i did read in "cats for dummies" book that a kitten needs > vaccinations for his first 2 years. After that, visiting the vet every > year is optional. > Why would a young, healthy age 3-6 cat need to go to the vet regularly? Unless you're a vet, how could you be sure a cat was healthy ~ just because it runs around a lot and looks good? At any time, a cat can pick up all sorts of afflictions that aren't immediately visible. A low grade temperature, ear mites, lumps, abnormal weight and other such things may not be noticeable by the owner, but could be caught by an experienced vet. > Annual checkups are gimmicks the vets dreamt up to make money. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. > "edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> nmr, i did read in "cats for dummies" book that a kitten needs [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. Upscale is right but the last comment about annual checkups shows your intelligence level Edie as usually you have no idea about the real world. Are you one of those nut jobs that think modern medicine is leading to the do fall of society? It makes me wonder whether you are being funny or being sincere. still, why do they need annual checkups? are they hypochondriacs?! a checkup once every 3 years for a young, seemingly healthy cat with no prior health issues seems very reasonable. Eddie I am going to ask some serious question. Every thing between us from the past aside. How many cats or animals do you have? Have your every had a furball with a serious medical condition? Do you as a pet owner do examinations of your animals such as checking their ears, paws check their litter box? The reason that evey year an examination needs to be done is the average pet owner does not know how to deteremine if the animal needs to go to the vet. On Phil's site http://www.maxshouse.com/ there is a mini exam that all pet owners should be familiar with. IMO if you know what to look for and have experience with cats than maybe every 2 years and I mean maybe you should not have a check up. It is so easy to a miss chip in the tooth or ear mites that would you rather have complete piece of mind and have to wonder what if. first, i have peace of mind, so i'm not going to drag my perfectly happy 4 year old cat to be poked and spend $100 just to "get peace of mind." second, i probably agree that an outdoor cat needs more check ups. But my indoor cat does not get exposed to outside germs or animals, and could not cat a flea if he wanted to. And since he only eats dry cat food, how would he chip a tooth? I don't know much about examining cats beyond the average person. However, I would detect a slight change of behavior/demeanor/appetite if my cat does get sick, in which case I would see a vet. The last time he's been to the vet is 2 years ago. Than I have no comment for you Mark you must be a vet who wants more customers. No a shelter worker and I own several retail stores I am not a vet far from it Just a person who thinks ahead instead of waiting for something to slap me in the face > you must be a vet who wants more customers. >However, I would detect a slight change of behavior/demeanor/appetite >if my cat does get sick, in which case I would see a vet. The last Your very sadly mistaken. My crf cat showed NO symptoms. That's why I was so shocked when I got the news that she had early kidney disease. Anna "edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message > could not cat a flea if he wanted to. And since he only eats dry cat > food, how would he chip a tooth? Are you actually trying to tell us that your cat *never* chews on anything else beside it's kibble? Even so, teeth wear and crack by chewing most anything under the right circumstances. > I don't know much about examining cats beyond the average person. > However, I would detect a slight change of behavior/demeanor/appetite > if my cat does get sick, in which case I would see a vet. The last > time he's been to the vet is 2 years ago. How often do you visit the doctor for a check-up? How often do you visit the dentist? Just like people, cats can get all sorts of afflictions that aren't immediately noticeable. It's up to you of course how often if ever you take your cat to the vet, but considering that for me, my cat is part of my family and I love her, the peace of mind is much more important to me than a paltry $100. Hell, that's the same about of money I'd spend to go out partying with drinks and some food. If I can't allocate one night of my discretionary funds to my cat's wellbeing, then I don't deserve to have a pet as far as I'm concerned. i have 2 cats, age 5. Got them from the ASPCA with all their shots about 5 years ago. I took them to a vet for annual checkups (and some required vaccinations) 4 and 3 years ago. They both seem healthy and happy and fully grown. 100% indoors. Do not respond to catnip. Dry food and water only. > i have 2 cats, age 5. Got them from the ASPCA with all their shots > about 5 years ago. I took them to a vet for annual checkups (and some > required vaccinations) 4 and 3 years ago. They both seem healthy and > happy and fully grown. 100% indoors. Do not respond to catnip. Dry > food and water only. you're an idiot and I called the aspca today and that cute blonde chick on Animal Cops New York is coming after you. Your in violation of the law. I hate criminal idiots! YOU IDIOT! maybe that cute blonde will have to cuff me and take me for a ride in the back seat. she has to put her arms around me in case I try to beat the rap. > maybe that cute blonde will have to cuff me and take me for a ride in > the back seat. she has to put her arms around me in case I try to beat > the rap. What good would that do you? You and your cat are gay. You don't like girls! we like that cute blonde; she can be our mommy. > still, why do they need annual checkups? are they hypochondriacs?! a > checkup once every 3 years for a young, seemingly healthy cat with no > prior health issues seems very reasonable. you said 5 earlier. which is it? Can't make up your mind. maybe you should just shut up > nmr, i did read in "cats for dummies" book that a kitten needs > vaccinations for his first 2 years. After that, visiting the vet every > year is optional. > Why would a young, healthy age 3-6 cat need to go to the vet regularly? Rabies vaccinations as required by law for one thing. What about feline leukemia or whatever other vaccinations they give to keep your cat from dieing? > Annual checkups are gimmicks the vets dreamt up to make money. So are they with humans. Please skip yours from now on. > If you know of a good reason or a law (in New York), do correct me. Check: http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/zoonoses/rabies/docs /pet_owners_fact_sheet.pdf rabies required by law yearly in NY state, or 3 year vaccination after 2nd year if available, You can't go 5 years, You give crappy advice Gulp! My cat's last vaccination was 3 years ago. But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all day and never encounters any other animals who might carry rabbies? > Gulp! My cat's last vaccination was 3 years ago. > But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all > day and never encounters any other animals who might carry rabbies? God! Stuck alone with you all day? If you're not going to take your cat to the vet for regular physical checkups, then at least take the animal to the vet for regular psych evaluations. Your cat must be a nervous wreck or suffering from depression. At the very least, your cat needs the feline equivalent of Prozac or antidepressant. i give my cat hypnosis treatments. hynotizing a cat is fun and easy, both for the owner and the cat. > i give my cat hypnosis treatments. hynotizing a cat is fun and easy, > both for the owner and the cat. you're an idiot! thats what you are. you just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. http://www.siliconhell.com/madcat/cathumour/boredcat.htm > > Gulp! My cat's last vaccination was 3 years ago. > > But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > suffering from depression. At the very least, your cat needs the feline > equivalent of Prozac or antidepressant. LMAO! > Gulp! My cat's last vaccination was 3 years ago. > But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all > day and never encounters any other animals who might carry rabbies? doesn't matter. You're breaking the law. $100 fine and they can take your cat. I'll call 'em and tell'em where you are! You can tell'em I'm on manhattan. Just say, "He's the guy on manhattan with the cat in his apartment." HELLO! My vet would charge me $100 just for scheduling an appointment. Then another $30-$90 extra for each vaccination shot. It's much cheaper to pay the fine and get a new cat. > You can tell'em I'm on manhattan. Just say, "He's the guy on manhattan > with the cat in his apartment." HELLO! You idiot I can trace your ip to your front door if I want to! > My vet would charge me $100 just for scheduling an appointment. Then > another $30-$90 extra for each vaccination shot. It's much cheaper to > pay the fine and get a new cat. You're a great pet owner. IDIOT! > ou're a great pet owner. IDIOT! let's just say my cat knows where his next meal is coming from. > > ou're a great pet owner. IDIOT! > > let's just say my cat knows where his next meal is coming from. yeah, you're welfare check! your cat wears the pants in your family. > your cat wears the pants in your family. I don't own a cat. I have a real pet a DOG! closet gays own dogs because they heard that open gays own cats. so the closet gay owns a dog in a feeble attempt to prove he is not gay. but we can read between the lines. He is the heterosexual man, like me, confident in his heterosexuality, that dares to openly own two cats without being accused of homosexuality. > closet gays own dogs because they heard that open gays own cats. so > the closet gay owns a dog in a feeble attempt to prove he is not gay. > but we can read between the lines. > He is the heterosexual man, like me, confident in his heterosexuality, > that dares to openly own two cats without being accused of > homosexuality. you are an idiot. I am married to a woman. You are the one pumping the cats! You need to seek psychological help! I'm done with you! You're too stupid to deal with! Into the filter you go! PLONK!!! "edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message > He is the heterosexual man, like me, confident in his heterosexuality, > that dares to openly own two cats without being accused of > homosexuality. It's a common fact that people who like to talk about being gay but deny being so, are in fact closet homosexuals. > It's a common fact that people who like to talk about being gay but deny being so, are in fact closet homosexuals. you admit it then, upscale. don't be ashamed. "edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > It's a common fact that people who like to talk about being gay but deny being so, are in fact closet homosexuals. > > you admit it then, upscale. don't be ashamed. That's funny considering you're the one doing all the talking. humperdink is comfortable with her heterosexuality. > > But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all > > day and never encounters any other animals who might carry rabbies? I said that a number of years ago. Boy was I wrong. I had all indoor cats, I mistakenly thought they were safe. The house was 100+ years old, somehow a squirrel got in the house and evey cat had to refresher rabies shots. I live in a high rise, waaaay up. a squirrel can't climb to these high altitudes. even mosquitoes can't fly up here! yes, we live above all the bugs, mosquitoes, and wild animals, waaaay up where the helicopters fly. > I live in a high rise, waaaay up. a squirrel can't climb to these high > altitudes. even mosquitoes can't fly up here! yes, we live above all > the bugs, mosquitoes, and wild animals, waaaay up where the helicopters > fly. Don't bet on it. This was a very old house, the cat was on the third floor at the time. The squirrel could have gotten in by 1. making a hole in the wall. 2. through attick/the walls/etc. Never underestimate the ability of a squirrel to get into any place of residence, any height. If you're cat can get there a squirrel can too. > I live in a high rise, waaaay up. a squirrel can't climb to these high > altitudes. even mosquitoes can't fly up here! yes, we live above all > the bugs, mosquitoes, and wild animals, waaaay up where the helicopters > fly. BATS !!!!!!!! They can get anywhere! YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!! How about if he ever got out. Hopefully you have him microchipped > Gulp! My cat's last vaccination was 3 years ago. > But how can he catch rabbies if he's confined inside my apartment all > day and never encounters any other animals who might carry rabbies? buddy, i live on manhattan. if he ever got out, he'd be eaten by a wild bird or cab, or mugged, before lunchtime. > tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about > once every 5 years, except when sick. What about yearly vaccinations including rabies? > tip #1: no need for a healthy cat to see a veterinarian more than about > once every 5 years, except when sick. That "tip" alone would be enough to convince me not to bother with this ebook. If I had followed that advice, I would have lost Amber at a much younger age. Liver disease was detected (at age 13) only through her bloodwork. She had show absolutely no signs of illness. Until then, we used to say that she never had a sick day in her life. We were able to extend her life for several years with good care. If I had followed this tip, she would not have had her annual exam because she "seemed" healthy. MaryL yes, but a 13 year old is very different from a 5 year old. an old 13 year old should see the vet more often. but a 5 year old is in the prime of life. BTW, how much did the expensive medication cost you to extend her life? > yes, but a 13 year old is very different from a 5 year old. an old 13 > year old should see the vet more often. but a 5 year old is in the > prime of life. BTW, how much did the expensive medication cost you to > extend her life? thats not what you said. You said every 5 years. DUMB a.s! >yes, but a 13 year old is very different from a 5 year old. an old 13 >year old should see the vet more often. but a 5 year old is in the >prime of life. My cat was 9 when she was diagnosed with crf. At least 70% of the kidneys must be destroyed before it will show up in the blood test. Therefore, if 70% was already destroyed at age 9, at what age did the kidney disease start? Perhaps 5, 6, 7 years old. Doesn't matter that they're in the "prime of their life" at those ages; anything can go wrong at any age. Anna > At least 70% of the kidneys must be destroyed before it will show up in the blood test. Therefore, if 70% was already destroyed at age 9, at what age did the kidney disease start? Perhaps 5, 6, 7 years old. Did you take your cat to a vet when he was 5, 6, or 7? If you did, this means your vet did NOT spot the kidney problem. Thus, you wasted your money all those years taking your cat to the vet, didn't ya -- what good did it do taking your cat to the vet those 3 years? >Did you take your cat to a vet when he was 5, 6, or 7? If you did, >this means your vet >did NOT spot the kidney problem. Thus, you wasted your money all those >years taking your cat to the vet, didn't ya -- what good did it do >taking your cat to the vet those 3 years? Blood and urine tests are needed to spot kidney problems. The vet told me to get both done when she was 7 as that is when they recommend senior testing. I declined. Therefore, if I had done what she suggested, I could have possibly discovered it at age 7 instead of 9 and could have started therapy earlier. As for her checkups at 5 and 6, I don't consider them a waste of money at all. The vet is more experienced than I am at checking animals' eyes, ears, teeth, weight, inspecting their body for lumps and doing a stool check . I could have missed something that she may have found. Anna How is kitty doing now? Hmmmm, one of my cats do seem to have a giant muscle in her tummy. Probably nothing to worry about, as she is eating and littering normally. > yes, but a 13 year old is very different from a 5 year old. an old 13 > year old should see the vet more often. but a 5 year old is in the > prime of life. BTW, how much did the expensive medication cost you to > extend her life? Amber died 11 years ago (shortly before I adopted Holly), and I really don't remember what it cost. I spent a considerable amount because there were numerous vet visits after that. It was money well spent! Amber gained 3 more years, and they were quality years for most of that time. Holly is now almost 11; Duffy is approximately 7. They (and my previous cats) have routine annual exams. I see my own doctor regularly, and I want the same care for my furbabies. If you are only looking at the financial cost (which is *not* how I look at it), then consider this: It is often far more costly to to take care of a problem that has progressed than it would be to take care of the same problem in early stages. Incidentally, what would you do about a human baby or toddler? Surely you would not tell parents that they should not see a pediatrician because the child is too young to need care! MaryL |
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