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obergan - 06 Feb 2006 20:53 GMT
I have 2 tabby cats, they are litter mates and inseparable.  They are
approx 2 years old.  The female (Trixie) is not as active as the male
(Toby), so often times she wants to sleep rather than play.  My problem is
Toby gets really bored at night and meows (and meows, and meows).  I have
tried everything that I can think of!  My husband and I both work during
the day, but when we get home we spend a lot of time with the cats.  We
brush them, talk to them, play with them.  I try to take them out on their
harnesses as much as I can, but it is difficult since we live in an
apartment building.  Usually I manage to take them out at least once a day
(though we are finally getting winter so the weather is too bad).  I try
to do this in the evening close to bed.  When I bring them back inside its
serious playtime—I usually end up running up and down the hall while Toby
chases the mouse on the stick.  Sometimes I have to stop because Toby is
getting overexerted (not to mention me!). Despite this, every night
usually between 2-4 he starts whining.  I don’t know what to do!  I have
bought a cat DVD, battery operated toys, interactive toys, catnip,
tunnels, mice toys, balls, a cat tree, made homemade toys and even bought
a fish tank!  I thought the live fish would give them a little
entertainment but they took no interest at all (I still love my fishies!)
I try rotating the toys but he still gets bored.  I don’t know what else
to do! Does anyone have any suggestions?
Anna - 07 Feb 2006 02:52 GMT
>Despite this, every night usually between 2-4 he starts whining.  

Is it a deep, gutteral (think that's the word) sound?  Or is it normal
meowing?  A couple of my cats make that deep, moaning sound in the middle of
the night - it is a very different sound from regular meowing.  One of them
does it when she comes upon a toy mouse at night, like she has "caught" it.
I think because lots of cats are noctural and in the dark at night is when
they get "wierd" (of course, some of them just sleep all night).  

Anna
nosredna - 07 Feb 2006 03:43 GMT
> >Despite this, every night usually between 2-4 he starts whining.  
>
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>
> Anna

Has he had a checkup lately? My precious Stephanie (eight years old) did
that on and off for about a year. She ended up having fatty liver
disease and died in December. Your cat might not be sick, but get some
blood tests right away.
obergan - 07 Feb 2006 05:14 GMT
I'm really sorry to hear about Stephanie.  It's always hard to lose a loved
one.

I usually do their annual check-up in May.  Toby doesn't have as strong
of an immune system as his sister. So it would probably be a good idea to
take him in before then.  He's also really skinny (even though he eats
more than his chunky sister), so I am wondering if it is a tyroid
problem.

Thanks!

nosredna - 07 Feb 2006 05:31 GMT
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<533e7b6db3ce70384920ba2684b127f9@localhost.talkaboutpets.com>,

> I'm really sorry to hear about Stephanie.  It's always hard to lose a loved
> one.
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> Thanks!
>  
Stephanie lost a lot of weight in the last six months of her life. I
didn't give it much thought, because she always seemed to be a light
eater, and when she had her last checkup, the (very young) vet didn't
say it was cause for concern. Looking back now, I think I should have
gotten a second opinion from the owner of the clinic (an older,
experienced vet). Stephanie's appetite had obviously dwindled over the
months (which the older vet said could have been caused by any number of
things), and of course her liver degenerated from that point on. From
now on, if my new kitty shows any similar signs, I will have a blood
test done sooner, rather than later.
Anna - 07 Feb 2006 18:08 GMT
>Stephanie lost a lot of weight in the last six months of her life. I
>didn't give it much thought, because she always seemed to be a light
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>now on, if my new kitty shows any similar signs, I will have a blood
>test done sooner, rather than later.

So sorry about your Stephanie.  Cats are *very* good at hiding their
illnesses; many an owner is fooled by them including myself.  When they lose
weight it is sometimes very hard to tell.  I didn't realize that one of mine
lost weight until the vet weighed her;  the only thing I thought is that her
spine seemed kind of bony one day when I was petting her.  Turns out she has
early kidney disease.  I know what you mean about blood tests; my vet told me
to start at age 7; I thought that was silly - it seemed so young so I waited
until she was 9 and I find out she has this disease.  If I had gotten it done
at 7 and she had the disease then I could have started her food therapy
earlier.  
Thank you for your info about Stephanie and liver disease; mine is a light
eater too; I will keep an eye on this.

Anna
obergan - 07 Feb 2006 05:04 GMT
That's exactly what it is!  A deep meow that's different than the usual.  I
was concerned that he was depressed because sometimes it sounds so sad! So
this could be a natural hunting response?
Anna - 07 Feb 2006 17:40 GMT
>That's exactly what it is!  A deep meow that's different than the usual.  I
>was concerned that he was depressed because sometimes it sounds so sad! So
>this could be a natural hunting response?

Absolutely.  Some of them get like that at night; maybe he's come upon one of
his toys and is "stalking" it.  I know, the first time I heard one of my cats
do it it woke me up, it's so wierd sounding.  But she's being doing it her
whole life since she was very young and she's 14 now and still does it.  When
I wake up in the morning after she's done this, the fur mouse is usually
soaking wet.  We always joke that if we ever get a mouse in our house and she
catches it, the poor thing would just get licked to death.  

As for your cat's skinniness, I'm no expert on this but I thought that
hyperthyroidism came later in life - not sure.  If you feel you should take
him in before May by all means do that.  Kidney disease can cause skinniness
too but again that *usually* comes later in life although there is a certain
type that can come earlier - it usually affects persians and persion x's
(polycystic kidney disease) or a cat can be born with only one kidney.  Don't
worry though - he may be a very healthy cat and is just going to have a slim
build.  

Anna
julian8888888@hotmail.com - 07 Feb 2006 20:06 GMT
Is it possible for your cat to share the same bedroom as you?  You can
make him his own little bed.  Let him be near you at night and see if
the problem goes away.  He might just be missing you at 4 o'clock in
the morning.

Mine likes to lay next to me all through the night.  When it's time to
get up and eat she likes to knead me.  She makes sure I go to bed and
get up at a proper time. :)

> That's exactly what it is!  A deep meow that's different than the usual.  I
> was concerned that he was depressed because sometimes it sounds so sad! So
> this could be a natural hunting response?
obergan - 08 Feb 2006 02:10 GMT
Is it possible for your cat to share the same bedroom as you?  You can
make him his own little bed.  Let him be near you at night and see if
the problem goes away.  He might just be missing you at 4 o'clock in
the morning.

Mine likes to lay next to me all through the night.  When it's time to
get up and eat she likes to knead me.  She makes sure I go to bed and
get up at a proper time. :)

- We used to keep the bedroom door open at night, but the whining was too
loud so we started shutting it.  Toby sometimes enjoys sleeping on our bed
during the day, but both my husband and I toss a lot at night so I don't
think Tobs would be too comfortable.  I will try making his own little bed
beside ours and see if that helps.

Thanks!
mlbriggs - 08 Feb 2006 19:07 GMT
> Is it possible for your cat to share the same bedroom as you?  You can
> make him his own little bed.  Let him be near you at night and see if
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>
> Thanks!

When Princess was alive (RB16) I placed a low parsons' table beside my
bed.  I also placed a heated cat pad on it.  Princess loved that bed after
she tried it.  Every night at bedtime, she would lead me to bed then jump
up on her pad.  It was a relief not to have her sleep on my legs.   MLB
edie humperdink - 08 Feb 2006 02:38 GMT
you are letting you cats control you, woman.
try some tough love.
the next time he makes noise when you're sleeping, fill your tub with
cool water and dunk him in it.
a couple of time of that, he will be very quiet.
Kelcy - 08 Feb 2006 02:54 GMT
>you are letting you cats control you, woman.
>try some tough love.
>the next time he makes noise when you're sleeping, fill your tub with
>cool water and dunk him in it.
>a couple of time of that, he will be very quiet.

troll

Kelcy
edie humperdink - 12 Feb 2006 07:06 GMT
hey, that's my cat's name!
NMR - 08 Feb 2006 02:56 GMT
"edie humperdink" <markdemers15@hotmail.com>
> the next time he makes noise when you're sleeping, fill your tub with
> cool water and dunk him in it.
> a couple of time of that, he will be very quiet.

Edie don't make me hunt you down for that comment
edie humperdink - 09 Feb 2006 04:28 GMT
what a bored cat needs is a male cat friend (if female cat).  try
putting out an ad in the personals secttion.
jordi hu - 12 Feb 2006 02:38 GMT
lady, your cat is doted by you, try to pat his head lightly next time when
he meows .
> I have 2 tabby cats, they are litter mates and inseparable.  They are
> approx 2 years old.  The female (Trixie) is not as active as the male
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> I try rotating the toys but he still gets bored.  I don’t know what else
> to do! Does anyone have any suggestions?

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