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traveltwo - 12 Jan 2006 03:32 GMT
how should you hold a cat and how do you encourage them to want to be
picked up and held
Spider - 12 Jan 2006 18:27 GMT
> how should you hold a cat and how do you encourage them to want to be
> picked up and held

First things first:  a cat should never be picked up by the scruff of its
neck, as its mother would.  It's safe, of course, with a tiny kitten, but
after about 8 wks old this practice should be stopped.  This is because,
once a cat starts to put on weight, there would be too much strain on the
spine.  However, in an adult cat, it is perfectly acceptable - and very
useful - to restrain a cat by the scruff of its neck, provided its weight is
fully supported on the ground or your lap.

To pick up a cat safely and so that it feels secure, slip your arm under its
front legs so that your arm is around its chest.  Then slip your other arm
under its behind or rear legs (whichever is more comfortable) and gently
lift.  This is the way most vets pick up a cat because it puts no strain on
either the spine or stomach.  Sometimes, if I pick up a wriggly cat outside
(for its own safety), I lift in the above way, and then grip the rear legs
together.  This stops the cat from kicking, scratching or launching itself
into the very danger you were trying to avoid.   I only do this for the
duration of the risk.

Not all cats enjoy being picked up - certainly not to the same degree.
However, cats need to be handled and examined at regular intervals, so every
attempt should be made to ease handling.  I make sure all my cats are
over-handled and meet as many people as possible early on.  The sooner
handling, playing and petting commence, the easier life will be for you and
your cat.  I always talk to my cats when I pick them up .. I tell them why
I'm picking them up and that they are safe.  If they resist being picked up,
I pick them up anyway and tell them they need handling and that they can go
down soon.  If they behave well and gently, I praise them highly.  If they
continue to resist (wriggle or cry), I praise them with a caveat "you were a
good puss, considering you didn't want to be held".  As loony as it sounds,
the cats seem able to distinguish between the two forms of praise, and want
to do better.  To be honest, even if they don't want to do better, I persist
because I've learned the value of a well-handled, unstressed cat at the
vets, or during visitations at home from less understanding people.  It
certainly helps on Bonfire Night, when the poor critters are terrified
witless.  While handling, do a brief examination: check kitty's eyes, open
its mouth, look in its ears.  All this will get kitty used to being handled.
By all means add grooming to your handling and holding routine as this can
be very relaxing for a cat, *if started early enough*.
Indeed, one of my cats will lead me into my garden room and ask to be
brushed; we have a lovely purrry relationship.

Spider
DL Farnworth - 13 Jan 2006 17:23 GMT
: traveltwo <traveltwo@cox.net> wrote in message

news:c49b8383800c1cb29a65a1e1c863768c@localhost.talkaboutpets.com...
: > how should you hold a cat and how do you encourage them to want to be
: > picked up and held
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: Spider

In addition to the above, when I'm holding a cat, I
say, "Wait," and hold it to keep it from jumping down.
When we're done, I say, "Ready," but continue to hold
on.  The cat knows by training that release is imminent
and can prepare itself calmly for release.  Then I say,
"OK."  The cat then jumps down.

The idea is to prevent those wild, claw filled escapes
dangerous to me and to the cat.  Everybody gets to
proceed calmly, even Pee Wee, who was a murderous
kitten and who still "leans" outward when you're
holding him.

My wife occasionally makes a mistake while holding one
of our guys.  She says, "OK," just in the course of
casual conversation while petting them and they
immediately jump down.  Everybody is surprised.
Spider - 15 Jan 2006 19:39 GMT
> "Spider" <Spider@nospam.com> wrote in message

(Huge snip)

> In addition to the above, when I'm holding a cat, I
> say, "Wait," and hold it to keep it from jumping down.
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> casual conversation while petting them and they
> immediately jump down.  Everybody is surprised.

Hi Mr. Farnworth,

Yes, this is a good idea and I use similar language myself.

As your wife has proved, it's very important to pick your training words
carefully.  Instead of "bad", which I now use, I used to say "naughty".  One
day, when Tiggypuss (ex-cat) and I were looking for his lost toy, I said
"It's not here".  This sounded, to Tiggypuss, so much like "naughty" that he
threw his ears back and looked at me in wide-eyed misery.  I had to reassure
him, and he was then happy, but I learned a valuable language lesson.

Spider
Jan P. - 14 Jan 2006 21:44 GMT
I snatch them up quickly cradle them and say (you can leave when I am done
loving you) lol after hugs and kisses they can go... looking back at me and
talking ,they lead me to the treat container. This process works for us :-)
Jan

> how should you hold a cat and how do you encourage them to want to be
> picked up and held
AKA gray asphalt - 15 Jan 2006 07:58 GMT
> how should you hold a cat and how do you
> encourage them to want to be
> picked up and held

Sometimes I hold my cats between my teeth, like a
mama cat. There will be complete silence (ie no
response), to this post.
: -)
NMR - 15 Jan 2006 08:04 GMT
No silence just wondering how much you have been drinking tonight
AKA gray asphalt - 15 Jan 2006 19:23 GMT
> No silence just wondering how much you have been
> drinking tonight

Kukula, who is no longer with us, had to have an
IV inserted and was very thin and spooky. The vet
couldn't get it in and when I grabbed her in my
teeth and supported her stomach with my arms she
waited for the IV and everything was ok. The vet
thought it was cool although she said she wasn't
going to do it herself.

Do I get a pass if I start drinking?
: -)
Spider - 15 Jan 2006 19:43 GMT
> > how should you hold a cat and how do you
> > encourage them to want to be
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> response), to this post.
> : -)

Hi

It's impossible to be silent  ...  I need to know the cat's response.

(I was amused to note that you can hold "cats" between your teeth.  You must
have a rare pair of knashers there! :~)  ).

Spider
AKA gray asphalt - 15 Jan 2006 19:52 GMT
>> > how should you hold a cat and how do you
>> > encourage them to want to be
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>
> Spider

The cats usually seem to transfer some of their
natural affection for the mother cats, to me. 90%
of the time they like me better, seem to feel more
comfortable. I am fascinated by the bonding that
goes on between mother cats and their offspring. I
think it is the reason why they lick themselves
and each other so much ... nastalgia and natural
affinity for the mother. Kiki had four kittens. We
made a little box for her under our bed where she
had the kittens and came out to get us to show us
her 4 babies. I could reach behind the head board
and put the kittens on her nipples when they
couldn't find their way. Kiki was so appreciative;
you can't imagine. She would curl up under the
covers with me (long after her duties as mother
had passed) and bite my wifes hands if she put
them anywhere too close to us. She always let me
touch and hold her kittens and sometimes treated
me like one of them. It was amazing.
Spider - 16 Jan 2006 13:40 GMT
> >> > how should you hold a cat and how do you
> >> > encourage them to want to be
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> touch and hold her kittens and sometimes treated
> me like one of them. It was amazing.

That's lovely.  I feel it's such an honour when a cat (or, indeed, any
animal) treats one with a special regard and respect.  It's also good when a
vet acknowledges this kind of (usually) long term relationship.  A good vet
is usually prepared to acknowledge that, although they are the expert on cat
ailments/diseases, a caring long-term owner is an expert on their cat.  I'm
pleased (and humble) to say that one or two vets have taken me seriously
when an ailment/problem is obscure, and persisted in fault-finding and
treatment.

Spider
AKA gray asphalt - 17 Jan 2006 08:04 GMT
: -)

>> >> > how should you hold a cat and how do you
>> >> > encourage them to want to be
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> Spider
 
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