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Cat Forum / General Topics / October 2005question re glucosamine
My wife bought (at great expense) some glucosamine tablets for our old fat cat with a sore hip. The active ingredient is d-glucosamine hcl My wife and I also take glucosamine for the same problem but it's glucosamine sulphate. Any reason why we can't use our capsules for the cat? Wayne Jones in Ottawa, ON I did some searching and this is what I found. Glucosamine sulphate is just fine and the dosage is up to 500mg per day for dogs or cats under 11kg Don't overdose as it tends to reduce insulin production and may cause diabetes. Wayne Wayne no offense this is not a question for a news group it a question to ask your vet and pharmacist you might get some advice out here but it is a newsgroup unless it is from Phil he is about the only on I would trust when it comes to this. > Wayne no offense this is not a question for a news group it a question to > ask your vet and pharmacist you might get some advice out here but it is a > newsgroup unless it is from Phil he is about the only on I would trust > when it comes to this. Little research has or will be done on this med because it is not patentable therefore the drug companies will not invest time and money on it. Hence we must rely on experience. My wife and I use glucosamine and it was taken on my doctor's advice. He had arthritus and had thoroughly checked it out. It worked for my sore hip. My cat's vet did prescribe the d-glucosamine hcl pills. The searches I did resulted in several posts by doctors and vets. That's where I got my info. . I am certain many cat owners have looked into this and can comment on their failure or success. Newsgroups like this one are the right place to ask for that experience and not just swap cute stories about pussycats as you suggest. Your fellow alt.pets.cats readers are smarter than you give them credit for. Wayne No it is not there are some great people out here and they can be a great help sometimes that I rather see someone as the saying goes get it from the horse's mouth than you know where Phil P would be the best one to post this question for but i did a little research my self and came up with this for you http://www.nutrasense.com/gluchclvssul.html > My wife bought (at great expense) some glucosamine tablets for our old fat > cat with a sore hip. The active ingredient is d-glucosamine hcl Let me put it this way: give the cat NO HUMAN MEDICATION AT ALL. Assume it will kill the cat unless a vet tells you otherwise, that it is safe for the cat. A dosage that is safe for a 200+ lb. human will be harmful/fatal for a 10+ lb. cat. So in the matter of medication for a cat consult your vet. That is why they go to vet school for all those years. Just becuase it is safe for you or your dog doesn't mean it is safe for your cat. Even if xxxx, yyyyyy, and zzzzzz on this newsgroup say they give aaaaa, bbbbb, and cccc to their cat with no problem NEVER NEVER EVER do it unless your trusted vet says it is Ok. They have the medical training and people here don't. > My wife bought (at great expense) some glucosamine tablets for our old fat > cat with a sore hip. The active ingredient is d-glucosamine hcl [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Wayne Jones in > Ottawa, ON The human formula comes in too large a dose. I suppose you could divide them, but I wouldn't. The animal formulas are either capsules that you open and sprinkle on food, or else chewable tablets, and I've only seen the hard tablets for people -- not very cat friendly. Seems that you (or someone) posted that a cat's dosage should not exceed 500 mg. Really, I'd say this is a LOT! But, ask your vet, of course. My Celeste gets 125 mg per day as a preventive. If she were symptomatic, I'd give her 250. And she is a very big cat. Regarding the expense, I can tell you that 1800petmeds.com sells a generic for Cosequin (glucosamine HCl and sodium chondroitin sulfate) that is substantially less expensive, but I'm not trying to pedal their products. There are several online pharmacies that are reputable, and they almost always have a smaller markup than the veterinarians or the pet stores. Pet stores have some inexpensive products, but is seems like when you compare formulas, they don't stack up. I use Cosequin as the standard for comparison because it's the only one who can show controlled studies on the product, AFAIK. It is pricey, though. Might your "old fat cat" also benefit from a lighter load on his hip? Maybe cut his meals down just a wee bit? Good luck to you!  SignatureDiana <http://personal.bellsouth.net/d/r/drdrive/hereiam.html> The tablets the vet sold us for cats and dogs contain 500mg of glucosamine and according to the container one tablet per day is the correct dose for a cat the size ours (20lbs). That does seem a lot considering that's the dose I take. Humans can get 2 types of dose. One in a capsule that comes apart with powder inside and another in hard tablet. Our pills are at least 1/4 the price. According to my doctor, excess glucosamine just gets peed out so any more than the recommended dose is a waste but does no harm. We have been feeding the cat a diet type of feed with a minimum dose for several years. According to my wife, it's almost a starvation amount. We got the cat second hand about 5 years ago and she weighed maybe just a bit more than now. My wife didn't want to put her outside so she has been lying around the house. I patched up all the holes in our back yard fence and she (the cat) has been going out often now. She isn't getting too much exercise still but she is certainly enjoying life more and it's better than sleeping all day. Wayne > The human formula comes in too large a dose. I suppose you could divide > them, but I wouldn't. The animal formulas are either capsules that you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Good luck to you! Wayne you can get the cat to exercise if you need to get a cat toy that you use and spend 10 minutes a day with her I use a laser pointer and all the firballs go nuts trying to get it Was that link helpful or should I kick it to the curb That was useful although my vet had already suggested it. We did try it and it works quite well. Cats really go for it. Our cat, on the other hand, is very interested but not interested enough to play for long then she lies there and will paw at it if you put it close enough. We didn't keep it up. I guess we are as lazy as she is ;-) Wayne > Wayne you can get the cat to exercise if you need to get a cat toy > that you use and spend 10 minutes a day with her I use a laser pointer > and all the firballs go nuts trying to get it > > Was that link helpful or should I kick it to the curb |
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