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Dr.Carla,DVM - 11 Aug 2005 02:41 GMT
If you are not planning on breeding your purebred cat (and I would not
suggest breeding a non-purebred since there are thousands of them already in
shelters), I would recommend spaying.
Spaying a female cat before their 1st heat will dramatically decrease their
chances of mammary tumors.  Spaying a cat after their 1st heat doesn't
provide as dramatic a decrease in incidence of cancer, but still definitely
worth it.
Mammary tumors in cats are almost always malignant and are very common in
Siamese and domestic shorthair cats (most "mutt" cats).
ThePuppyProphet@AniMail.Net - 12 Aug 2005 07:35 GMT
HOWEDY dra carla, dvm, BWWEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!!

> If you are not planning on breeding your purebred
> cat (and I would not suggest breeding a non-purebred

So, you're a pure bred elitist, kinda a kitty kat
skinhead, eh dra carla, dvm?

> Who is this supposed "puppy wizard"

The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches folks HOWE to
TRAIN their critters of ALL KINDS to REHABILIATATE
temperament and behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY
and FOR FREE, to boot, for which YOU surgically
mutilate and MURDER innocent dumb defenseless
critters FOR PROFIT.

> I wouldn't trust anything they print.

INDEED? Would you TRUST PAVLOV, SKINNER, WHALER,
WATSON, and the other NOTABLE AUTHORITES QUOTED
in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's post BELOW which
you "WOULDN'T BELIEVE", dra carla, veterinary
malpracticioner?:

>  since there are thousands of them already in shelters),

Perhaps they should be set free? Kats got a
unique ability to survive withHOWET surgical
mutilation and murder, dra carla, dvm.

>  I would recommend spaying.

You DO, on accHOWENT of surgically mutilating
heelthy animals is your BREAD an BUTTER, ain't
it, dra carla, dvm.

> Spaying a female cat before their 1st heat will

Will unjustly ENRICH unethickal veterinary malpracticioners
like yourself who PROFIT from mutilating and murdering innocent
dumb critters by defauding their ignorant / unknowing owners
who TRUSTED you as a ETHICKAL PEST PROFESSIONAL, dra carla,
animal mangler.

> dramatically decrease their chances of mammary tumors.

That's a BULLSHIT argument, dra carla. Cutin off
your fingers will dramatically decrease the chances
of you inapupriately needlessly surgically mutilate
critters, dra. carla, dvm.

>  Spaying a cat after their 1st heat doesn't
> provide as dramatic a decrease in incidence
> of cancer,

Your cancers care CAUSED by your commercial
garbage diets and STRESS from MISHANDLING,
not by a lack of surgical sexual mutilation.

>  but still definitely worth it.

For you, the veterinary malpracticioner, dra carla.

> Mammary tumors in cats are almost always malignant
> and are very common in Siamese and domestic shorthair
> cats (most "mutt" cats).

You mean kats who live with doting neurotic punishing
kat lovers who mutilate their critters for CONvienience
at your recommendation for your own PROFIT.

You're a FRAUD a LIAR and ANIMAL ABUSER, dra carla, dvm.

HOWEDY dra carla, dvm,

> Who is this supposed "puppy wizard"

The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches folks HOWE to
TRAIN their critters of ALL KINDS to REHABILIATATE
temperament and behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY
and FOR FREE, to boot, for which YOU surgically
mutilate and MURDER innocent dumb defenseless
critters FOR PROFIT.

> I wouldn't trust anything they print.

INDEED? Would you TRUST PAVLOV, SKINNER, WHALER,
WATSON, and the other NOTABLE AUTHORITES QUOTED
in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's post BELOW which
you "WOULDN'T BELIEVE", dra carla, veterinary
malpracticioner?:

HOWEDY dra carla, dvm,

My cat died while getting declawed! :-(

> 1 in 1,000 otherwise perfectly healthy animals

HOWE COME "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" ARE BEING
SURGICALLY MUTILATED BY ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS?

> will die every year just from the normal effects of anesthesia.

Since WHEN is anesthesia "NORMAL" for "PERFECTLY
HEALTHY ANIMALS," dra carla, dvm?

>  This is the hardest thing we have to risk

"WE", dra carla, dvm? You mean YOU RISK the LIVES
of "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" comitting VETERINARY
MALPRACTICE on them solely for PROFIT, DON'T YOU,
dra carla, dvm...

> each time our pets are put under for surgery.

If ALL the "PERFECTLY HEALTHY ANIMALS" you RISK by
UNNECESSARILY INAPUPRIATELY SURGICALLY MUTILATING
them, THAT woudld DESTROY your PROFIT MARGINES,
wouldn't it, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) >

>  I don't know what the ratio is

O.K., dra carla, dvm, PERMIT The Amazing Puppy
Wizard to ENLIGHTEN YOU: There are NO PERFECTLY
HEALTHY ANIMALS who should be RISKING UNNECESSARY
INAPUPRIATE SURGICAL MUTILATIONS at the hands of
ETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll chop off body parts
on accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW NUTHING abHOWET
HOWE to pupperly handle train and manage those
INNOCENT VICTIMS of "THE HARDEST THING WE HAVE
TO RISK," e.g. YOUR FINANCIAL HEELTH, dra carla,
dvm <{); ~ ) >

THOSE DEATHS are 100% VETERINARY MALPRACTICE.

AINT' THAT CORRECT, dra carla, dvm.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard INTENDS to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your ilk <{); ~ ) >

> in people but its generally the same idea,

PEOPLE can CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES if THEY want
to SUFFER THE RISKS of unnecessary surgical
mutilations, dra carla, dvm <{): ~ ) >

> that for absolutely no reason other than proper
> anesthetic protocol a healthy patient can die.

Are you BLAMING inapupriate administration of
anesthesia for those UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE
SURGICAL MUTILATIONS which comprise 100% of
the RISKS those INNOCENT DEAD VICTIMS of "THE
HARDEST THING WE HAVE TO RISK", a HUGE % of
YOUR INCOME, dra carla, dvm?

> Cat's hearts are extremely small as you can infer
> from the size of their chests.

LikeWIZE your heart, as WE can PROVE by your
irresponsible SURGICAL MUTILATIONS of "PERFECTLY
HEELTHY ANIMALS," to SUPPORT YOURSELF in the
manner in which you've become accustomed, dra
carla, dvm <{); ~ ) >

THERE AIN'T NO WAY NO HOWE TO PUPPERLY HURT INTIMDIATE
and MURDER INNOCENT DEFENSELESS DUMB CRITTERS even if
your are a LICENSED VETERINARIAN <{); ~ ) >

      "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
                     can be judged
           by the way its animals are treated."
                  ~ Mohandas Gandhi --
         Adapted with permission from his FREE
         copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
         End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ )  >

> Even if your cat had responded to the epi injection
> she only had a 1 in 10 chance of surviving after cardiac
> arrest.

The kat was BROUGHT IN for DECLAWING, dra carla, dvm,
a VETERINARY MALPRACTICE which has been PROVEN to CAUSE
FEAR AGGRESSION and HOWEsbreaking problems in FORMERLY
PERFECTLY HEELTHY VICTIMS of your MEDICAL MALPRACTICE,
and GETS PEOPLE HURT and ANIMALS DEAD, dra carla, dvm.
Case in point, janet boss's kat's CASE HISTORY of IATROGENIC
DIS-EASE and FEAR AGGRESSION and VETERINARY NEUROLOGICAL
TREATMEN for THOWESANDS of dollars and UNNECESSARY MEDICATIONS
for THOWESANDS of dollars and REPEATED veterinary SCREENING
for drug toxicities, ISN'T THAT MALPRACTICE, dra carla, dvm?

Or is it FRAUD and MALPRACTICE, dra carla? Did you learn
THAT in MEDICAL SCHOOL from professors like marshall dermer
and dr mark plonsky of UofWI? Let's talk BUSINESS, dra carla,
dvm. Your universities should be held accHOWENTBLE for passin
you and the state should be lookin into their exam critteria.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is fixin to DROP THE HAMMER
on you and your industrywide MALPRACTICE, dra carla,
dvm <{): ~ ) >

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                 may acquire those rights
      which never could have been withholden from them
                but by the hand of tyranny.
            The question is not can they REASON,
                   nor can they TALK,
                 but can they SUFFER?"  -
                   - Jeremy Bentham

>   Also she would have been in the hospital for several
>  days fighting for life and still may not have made it.

OTOH, she'd be PERFECTLY FINE at her own HOWES had
your comrade in MALPRACTICE gave FULL DISCLOSURE
and REFUSED to commit VETERINARY MALPRACTICE on this
INNOCENT VICTIM of your GREED, ARROGANCE, and IGNORANCE,
dra carl, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER <{); ~ ) >

In The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Post which YOU SEZ not
to believe, was ALL THE INFORMATION you need to learn
HOWE to train ANY kitty kat not to inapupriately use
his claws. same same for TOOTH EXXXTRACTIONS in monkeys
(even though THEY don't have Souls...) is UNETHICKAL
EVEN IF the critter is under anesthesia for other
necessary procedures.

Just look at the CASE HISTORIES of professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds
and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation"
dermer and his little hyperactive dog Maxie The
Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator.

> I know these facts don't make your loss any easier to deal with.

HOWEver, it doesn't SEEM to bother you, your BREAD an BUTTER
RIDES on SURGICALLY MUTILATING FORMERLY HEELTHY INNOCENT
DEFENSELESS CRITTERS, dra carla, veterinary MALPRACTICIONER.

> Trust me

TRUST YOU, dra carla? You're a THIEF, A LIAR, and MURDERER.

>  when I say your vet is very upset by this loss also.

Yeah, it COULD EFFECT HIS BUSINESS, dra carla, veterinary
MALPRACTICIONER EXXXTRAORDINAIRE <{); ~ ) >

> There is nothing more heart-wrenching as a surgeon than
> losing your patient.

PARTICULARLY when IT WAS a "PERFECTLY HEELTHY CRITTER"
pryor to your CUTTIN IT UP for PROFTIT, depsite KNOWING
the RISK, TEMPERAMENT and HEELTH problems your RISKY
MALPRACTICE is RESPONSIBLE FOR, dra carla, dvm <{); ~ ) >

Don't even think of tryin to get HOWET sayin 'if a
behavior change like PISSIN IN BED or ATTACKING YOU
is noticed you've got to take it to the vet to make
SHORE it ain't nuthin PHYSICAL...' like HOWE janet
done with her kat's aggression CAUSED BY declawing
and the attacks occured ONLY when janet was PUNISHING
her other dogs, dra carla, (and was treated at first
with VALIUM), same same for matty's DEATHLY ILL dog
Rocky's PSYCHOGENIC SEIZURES but he wasn't started
on Valium, he went on phenobarb and other TOXIC drugs,
same same for professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer's CHRONIC
urinary tract / blader stone / irritable BHOWEL /
FuriHOWES Masturbation Disasociate Disorder for which
he was treated with antibiotics steroids and nearly
had EXXXPLORATORY SURGERY for his bladder stones.

> My condolences.

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

YOUR ADVICE CAUSES you to say you're SORRY.

You wanna know HOWE professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer
CURED his little dog's CHRONIC DIS-EASES? He simulated
masturbating him for five minutes at nite pryor to
beddy bye which CALMED his dog and CURED his STRESS
and MISTRUST issues, dra carla, dvm.

Pretty much the same same as HOWE The Amazing
Puppy Wizard teaches though NON PHYSICAL PRAISE
and NO PUNISHMENT or withholding attention affection
and unconditional love trust and respect. Think
of it as ALLELOMIMETIC behavior, Dr. No.

> > Aside from being completely heartbroken, I need to know
> > since some people have started telling me that it sounds
> > possibly more like incompetence.

BET YOUR LIFE ON IT. You've been LIED TO and MISLED
by UNETHICKAL VETERINARIANS who'll DO and SAY ANY
THING to RIP YOU OFF for your HARD EARNED DOUGH at
the EXXXPENSE of your kat's LIFE, like HOWE dra carla,
dvm PREFERS to CONDUCT BUSINESS <{): ~ ) >

> > I know it won't bring my babygirl back,

Well HOWE COME she was being SURGICALLY MUTILATED?
You could TRAIN the kat NOT TO SCRATCH NUTHIN but
his scratching post in just a couple minutes. ANY
behavior can be trained in a couple minutes and IF
IT CAN'T, THEN it's a VETERINARY PROBLEM <{); ~ ) >

> > but I need some opinions...

That AIN'T a OPINION, it's PROVEN FACT.

> > She was 3, and the only reason we decided to get her
> > declawed was because we had tried almost every other
> > type of training/alternative

You USED AVERSIVES and BRIBES or REWARDS, not training.

> to keep it from furniture.

'NOT EVERY TYPE of ALTERNATIVE' as professor SCRUFF SHAKE
sez to Professora Daniel when he was trying to CONfHOWEND
her after rehabilitating her dog's FEAR AGGRESSION NEARLY
INSTANTLY after DISMAL FAILURE working with dra patricia
mcconnell and folowing dr ian dunbar and karen pryor's
METHODS PRECISELY and takin seventy HOWERS of PROFESSIONAL
TRAINING at a cost of THOWESANDS of bucks.

> > Trust me when I say she could have all the furniture if
> > she could come back...

Are you WILLING to SUE your veterinarian for MALPRACTICE?
The Amazing Puppy Wizard will EAGERLY offer EXXXPERT WITNESS
TESTIMONY and GET YOU some JUSTICE. GUARANTEED. AND FOR FREE,
to boot.

> > At any rate, we paid to get the laser surgery because we
> > wanted it to be as painless as possible, and paid to have
> > her blood tested.

> > The vet said basically that the surgery went according to
> > protocol until they went to reviver her. She wouldn't respond.

Well, so much for modern medecine.

> >  Then 3 different people tried to inject epinephrine into
> > her heart, but that she must have had a small heart because
> > they couldn't find it.

THAT'S ABSURD. YOU COUNT RIBS AND JAB.

> >  This was at a supposed cat specialist clinic as well...

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

> >  we thought she was as safe as could be...

INDEED... SHE WAS. SHE DIED TO ENRICH THE VET.

> > It makes no sense, we adopted her from the Humane Society
> > when she was 10 months old, and she had been spayed there.

ANOTHER RISKY UNNECESSARY INAPUPRIATE MUTILATION.

> >  Ours does a good job, but they don't strike me as
> > the type that would check a cat's heart size in order
> > to get them spayed.

ALL THEY (the UNETHICKAL WONS like dra carla, dr plonsky
and professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer and trainers like matty,
janet, captain haggarty, booby maida, ed w of petloss.com
[WOn or two of the others are simply inapupriately educated
or ignorant or simply to be EXXXPEDITHOWES seein as they're
TOO BUSY to apuppriately handle and TRAIN critters as they
work with them]) WANT IS HOWER MONEY.

Not all are as KINDLY as michael ball who MURDERS
dogs for their benefit and runs DHOWEN kats on the
street if he CAN.

> > I would especially appreciate any veterinarians
> > to respond to this post.

LikeWIZE...

> > I know it won't bring her back, but if it sounds
> > like they may have done  something wrong I will
> > be seriously pissed off!

WOULD YOU SUE THEM IF YOU COULD PROVE surgically
mutilating kat's paws is UNETHICKAL UNNECESSARY
INAPUPRIATE MUTILATION?

> > I just want my girl back.

PERHAPS your vet's office can REPLACE IT?

> > I know she can't, but... you know.  :-(

And NHOWE, so you you...

> > --Matt

dra carla D.V.M. SEZ:

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:17:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Trying to keep my dog's ears dry and free of infection

Who is this supposed "puppy wizard"
I wouldn't trust anything they print.

LIKE THIS:

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)."

            ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems
                     And 90% Of DIS-EASE
                 Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
                       THAT'S GOOD!
                THAT MEANS We can CURE ALL
              Temperament And Behavior Problems
                     And 90% Of DIS-EASE
                      NEARLY INSTANTLY
        Simply By DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE
                  Of HOWE We've Been TAUGHT
             By UNIVERSITY TRAINED Behaviorists

HOWEDY People!

ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

THAT'S GOOD!

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

THAT MEANS we can CURE ALL Temperament And Behavior
Problems NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOING EXXXACTLY,
PRECISELY, OPPOSITE of HOWE we've been TAUGHT TO
MISHANDLE and ABUSE HOWER dogs by the UNIVERSITY
TRAINED behaviorists and PROFESSIONAL PET CARE
SPECIALISTS who MAKE THEIR LIVING off of PERPETUATING
their SHEER IDIOCY and IGNOING the works of Drs. Sam
Corson, Dra. Mary Cover Jones, Breland & Breland, and
other notable psychologists IGNORED and OVERLOOKED by
the ABUSERS who TEACH US to lock HOWER dogs in boxes,
bribe, choke, intimidate, and IGNORE HOWER dog's,
children's and SP-HOWESES cries of FEAR and NEED and
WITHHOLD attention, affection, so called "rewards"
and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TRUST and RESPECT.

Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last
Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation
Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management
Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >

WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BLAME THE DOG OR ITS BREED:

                ALL Critters Only Respond In
              PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                 INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                  Which We Create For Them.

               You GET The Critter You TRAINED

                       A DOG Is A Dog;
                      As A KAT Is A KAT;
                    As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                    As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                  As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has MUCH CASE HISTORY and PEER
REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC DATA to PROVE these "FAR FETCHED"
claims. HOWEver, for today's puporses, this will be all
that's necessary:

Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G 34D2527A

Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all
handlers and all dogs in all fields or
utilities and behaviors all over the Whole
Wild World <{) ; ~ )  >

                ALL Critters Only Respond In
              PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
                 INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
                  Which We Create For Them.

               You GET The Critter You TRAINED

                       A DOG Is A Dog;
                      As A KAT Is A KAT;
                    As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
                    As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
                  As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

            In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
                      FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
                      SAME SAME SAME SAME,
           For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

         Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
              We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
                 And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

        ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

          Jer 21 And unto this people thou shalt say,
          Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I set before
          you The Way Of Life, And The Way Of Death.

          2Ki 19:6 And Isaiah said unto them, Thus
          shall ye say to your master, Thus saith
          the LORD, Be not afraid of the words which
          thou hast heard, with which the servants of
          the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.

                 The Puppy Prophet <{); ~ ) >

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:41:01 -0500
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: "time-out"

Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has
recently been intensified by meeting The
Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with
dogs is marvelous.

There is a literature on harms caused by time
out, and perhaps you'd like to look at
http://www.dogydoright.com
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

"As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care."

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

> So why is that a problem?

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated."

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<drv...@mindspring.com>

To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student,
the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him
TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully,
over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training
is immoral. I've watched him in one short session calm
impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to
sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to
hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive
dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that
a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's "Cumulative
Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The
Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the trainer
attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's
developmental history, and the environmental niche of
the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

<snip>

       Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual
       history, and the nature of he disorder.

       Dr. Von

       PS if you are interested in dogs, then take
       a look at Jerry's work.

         Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in

         "Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?":

"Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of
scientific findings. It overstates the case for
reinforcement theory. No careful researcher
would contend that operant techniques CAN ANY
THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM BEHAVIOR in
a highly controlled and limited environment
with a large number of skillful experimenters.

Certainly the most elaborate studies have shown
that the withdrawal or temprary inefficiency of
the reward system is immediately followed by
CESSATION of the programmed behavior.

In fortunate contrast to this depressing paper
is the research reported by Whelan (1966) who
makes the simple but profHOWEND caveat that
"It is only through CORRECT, EFFICIENT APPLICATION
(of operant principles) that children's behavor can
be changed to the extent that they can subsequently
contribute to the REAL WORLD in which they live." "

  "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
                   Never Change,
   Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
     Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
           For All Handler's And All Dogs,
           ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
                NEARLY INSTANTLY,
  As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
   FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
            The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )  >

Dr. Von continues:

"Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the
learning process by referring to Ferster's
engaging study of two three year old
chimpanzees taught mathematics through
simple procedures. Whelan carries this
EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET
it's applicability to disturbed children."

      You Get The Critter You Trained

              A Dog Is A Dog
            As A Kat Is A Kat
          As A Birdie Is A Birdie
           As A Child Is A Child
        As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

       ALL Critters Only Respond In
  PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE
              REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
         Which We Create For Them.

        Damn The Descartean War of
          "Nature Vs Nurture."
    We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
       And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

  In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
          FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
              SAME SAME,
 For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

Dr. Von continues:

"If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step
by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced
primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with
"fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even
developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children
CAN LEARN as well.

Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important
point that while most teachers assume that learning
takes place verbally, primarily it is a non verbal
process..

Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem
that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific
deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially
acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and
classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING.

Other researchers have emphasized the importance
of adult behaviors in conditioning classroom behavior.
An EXXXCELLENT review of this research showd that
tantrum behavior, excessive crawling and dependency,
isolated play, passivity, spelling failure, and other
problem behaviors can be managed by altering habitual
adult responses to children (Harris, Wolf and Baer, 1964) .

Such RESEARCH holds GREATER PROMISE in that alteration
of the conditioning social environment seems to provide
more STABLE and LASTING CHANGES than "M and M's". Moreover,
a great deal of work has been done developing EFFECTIVE
techniques of behavior modificaton through the conditioning
social environment of peers (Hartup, 1964). These directions
would seem more PRODUCTIVE than a simple minded trainslation
of the Skinner cage to the classroom.

Skinner (1963) pointed HOWET that operant techniques
can "be utilized fully ONLY IF we REDEFINE the GOALS
of education and the CONDITIONS in the educational
environment under which those goals may be reached...
(through) a DIFFERENT KIND of educational research
which is much more closely concerned with the immediate
dimensions of the student's behavior than with gross
changes such as IMPROVED PERFORMANCES."

UNFORTUNATELY, neither Skinner nor ANY OTHER
learning theorist has provided us with a working
model of a school or research enterprise based
on systemic and thorough-going APPLICATION of
LEARNING PRINCIPLES.

Skinner (1948, 1953) approaches a definition of the
philosophical issues involved, and provides an utopian
model of a school, but generally psychologists seem
STUCK at a level of MANAGEMENT of an aggressively
disturbing child in the classroom, through peer approval,
or the aplication of accelerating CONsequences in the
classroom, or scientifically S-HOWENDING tactics like
"TIME HOWET" (which we used to know more simply
as "sendin the kid to the cloakroom").

Hobbs (op. cit.) claims that the classroom is a
natural environement for the child. Thelen (1965)
contends that "classroom practices are UNnatural,
UNreasonable, and 'against NATURE.' "This would
seem the central issue for the philosophy of education.
Mere trivial application of research findings to an
institution essentially unchanged from Sumerian academies
(Kramer, 1962) will NOT create useful teaching for
human beings.

It seems relevant to ask EXXXACTLY WHAT do we
know abHOWT the learning situation in which HOWER
children find themselves, and why, in the light of HOWER
knowledge, do we do any of the things that schools do?"

We know that there is little agreement among adults
as to what it is they are SUPPOSED to be DOING,
what something to do could be that MIGHT be
EFFECTVE, and what it IS that other people who
have authority over children ought to be doing (Mc-
Eachern and Taylor, 1967). Wherefor the child's
CONfusiHOWEN?

It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966).

Probably the most absurd figure in Amaerican mass
media is the TEACHER (Gerbner, 1966). HOWE can
we EXXXPECT children to LEARN responsible P-HOWER
from models of IMPOTENCE? We KNOW that LEARNING
a complex ritualized social role, is facilitated
by observation of an INTELLIGIBLE MODEL much more
effectively than by trial and error with REINFORCEMENT.

Roles which are relatively arbitrary and senseless are
the most difficult to learn (Luchins, 1966). Do we make
ANY EFFORT as teachers to CORRECT the massive impact of
media?

HOWE can the ARBITRARINESS and SENSELESSNESS
of IMPOTENT ADULT MODELS be redeemed by anything
short of RELEVANCE and COMMITMENT?

As an engaging final comment on the PROFESSION
let me mention the little study by Dittman et al (1965)
tha when 15 psychotherapists and 9 professional dancers
evaluated facial and bodily expressons for effect the
dancers were much MOORE accurate. Need we say MOORE
abHOWET the training of therapists?

THE OPERANT FALLACY

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) ar no more well
established in research than the various dynamic
therapists. Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation
of programmed systems for elarning; 2) reinforcement;
3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY
DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers.

The 190 studies annotated by Schramm (1964) when
inspected display NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES
in SUCCESS among approaches and modifications.
Programmed instruction is no worse than conventional
instruction, and takes less time, but time reductions in
conventional instruction has frequently been shown
possible without detrimental effects. If you draw your
controls cagily you can always show the superiority of
your PET technique.

Moore and Smit (1964) compared variations on
programmed materials, machines, texts, written
responses, merely reading, free response, multiple
choice, and iving or not giving the students results.
There were NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES despite
Skinner's insistence on the importance of the
CONTINGENCY of REINFORCEMENT. Carpenter
and Greenhill (1963) could find NO DIFFERENCE
in RESULTS even after eliminating the self-pacing
feature by presenting the materials by TV or Video.

Krumboltz and Kiesler (1965) reported that a two month
follow up test showed NO DIFFERENCE between students
given a variety of reinforcement schedules. Mayo and
Longo (1966) report that naval and marine trainees
saved 30% of time in learning electronics fundamentals
through a programed course witrh superior scores on one
measure but not on another, and with no follow-up reported.

The same authors reported a reductionj from 26 HOWERS
to 19 HOWERS in instruction time through the use of
program with NO DIFFERENCE in test scores, except
that as longer blocks of materiallearned through
programmed means were tesed the scores DECREASED.

When the control instruction is manipulated an entirely
DIFFERENT picture emerges Jacobs and Kulkarni (1966)
assignedstudents in three different schools to classes
with standard programmed material giving immediate
knowledge of results to classes without results and to
classes with the order of sections of the program inverted.

In two schools the groups without knowledge of results
and the groups with inverted material SCORED HIGHER.
In one school there was NO DIFFERENCE. So much for
THEORY. Reid and Taylor (1965) presented a linear
program on paper-making to 60 paid undergrads with
a 12 week follow up test. The group which merely
read learned the same material in 154 minutes to
243 minutes for the group given responses- a
REVERSAL of the usual BIASED RESULTS based
on POOR CON-TROLLS. There were no differences
on post tests.

Spagnoli (1965) reports on a study exposing the control
and programed group to the same material in a concentrated
effort over a limited period of time. There were NO
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES.

Sassenrath and Garverick (1965) gave 4 matched
groups of 120 students four procedures: 1) looking
up the wrong answers, 2) having questions discussed
by the instructors, 3) checking answers from correct
ones on the board, and 4) no feedback. The discussion
method proved best.

Finally, in studying means of training men to perform
a 72 action prcedure on Nike-Hercules equipment,
Cox and Boren (1965) demonstrated that the time
required to learn the procedure to critterion was NO
DIFFERENT when the actions were organized into
seven operant spans and taught in reverse order, in
natural order, or without grouping into operant spans
at all.

IT IS CLEAR that as comparisons became more
sophisticated programed instruction and other
operant teaching techniquesreveal tehemselves
as simply another prestigiHOWES FAD--somewhat
better than conventional instruction in saving time,
but certainly not providing a better or better organized
or more independently useful GRASP of KNOWLEDGE.

The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were
moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and learning
immediately deteriorated.

Despite this, and despite the fact that there was no
evidence of cognitive association with the words, the
authors leap to the conclusion that the fact that the
boys improved in the acquisition of Norwegian words
WITHOUT REWARDS while still being given English
words WITH REWARDS suggest hat the children may
be able to acquire new behaviors on their own.

The need for this study escapes one, particularly in
view of the very well established fact that schizophrenics
condition quite readily (Mednick, 1958)

One can see the "SCIENTIFIC" PRECISION by which the
authors drop contingent reinforcements thus PROVING
that the parrot behavior was indeed caused by the
schedule and NOT by some other mystical force.

The use of Norwegian to demonstrate learning that
could not even remotely be related to previous history
is a grotesquery too bizarre to be credited. Who could
possibly doubt that this useless and probably damaging
trained seal routine depended on the psychologist's antics?

What on earth led them to believe that a schizophrenic
needs even more other-focused responsiveness?

Lovaas et al (1965) reported three programs carried
out on five year old autistic twins conditioining them
to "social behavior" and to eliminate pathologial
behaviors such as self-stimulation and tantrums.

Affectionate and other social behaviors toward
adults increaseed after adults had been associated
with shock reduction. The routine for this treatment
brings immediate relief to mind Sawrey and Wesz
(1956) routine for producing ulcers in monkeys.

I suppose it is USELESS to speculate on the source
of SO CALLED THERAPISTS willingness to experiment
on human beings with procedures for which there is
sound experimentally established WARNINGS. If the
"double blind" theory of the origin of schizophrenia
(Bateson, 1956) is at all valid, HOWE DEVASTATING
the experience must ULTIMATELY BE.

Do Lovaas et al REALLY BELIEVE the schizophrenic
has no cognitive processes and DOES NOT KNOW
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHOCK? Greger
(1965) criticized this study on the basis that
trainsfer CANNOT be generalized.

That issue can be answered by experience, and,
of curse, the "social" behavior of these children
deteriorates as soon as the psychologists LOOSE INTEREST.

The IMPORTANT ISSUE for a SCIENCE OF BEHAVIOR
is why not attempt those things which are KNOWN to
WORK at least in some cases if only for control puporses.

Kanner (1954) reports that 13 classically autistic
children improved enough to go to school without
"anything that is regarded as good psychotherapy or
as psychotherapy at all..."

Autistic children have been known to become
permenantely social by deinstitutionalization,
BY REMOVAL from the parents, BY RADICAL CHANGES
in other environments, and by MASSIVE DOSAGE of
TOUCHING, HOLDING, FONDLING LOVE DESPITE THE
REJECTION OF THE CHILD.

My case, Larry, (vonHilsheimer, 1965b), demonstrates
a recovery by using the mother as an autistic boy's
teacher in an open millieu. It is curiHOWES that the
operant technicians provide as few, and as UNIMAGINITAVE
controls for thier "research" as the Freudians.

REWARD / PUNISHMENT

Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966).

MIMICRY, PLAY, EXPLORATION AND
THE NEED FOR DATA

Complex activities are LEARNED MORE QUICKLY
through OBSERVATION (copying, if you will) than
by trial and error with reinforcemet (Luchins,).
Observers of subjects making a first trial of a multiple
choice bolt head maze made fewer errors than the
practiced subjects in the second run, while subjects
who have been shocked for error on a first trial made
more errors than either (Rosenbaum & Hewitt, 1966).
Students will modify their beliefs more when rewarded
for the way in which they carried out arguing for a
disagreeable position (role reward), than when rewarded
for the content of the argument (Wallace, 1966).

===================

           INTRO TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING MANUAL
           George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D. F.R.S.H.

Several years ago one of my old students telephoned
to me and asked me what I knew about Doggie Do
Right, a device to cause your neighbor's dog to stop
barking.

I had not heard of the device, nor its inventor, Jerry
Howe, but I telephoned, read his website, and told
my graduate that I thought the device was worth a
trial - indeed I shut up the dogs in my neighborhood
by turning on Jerry's supersonic device.

After all we all know that dogs respond to whistles
humans cannot hear, so why not respond to "attaboy"
sounds which humans cannot hear.

My student lived far from my Florida homestead, so
he tried it on the three incredibly savage, hyperactive
and noisy dogs who lived behind a tall fence just 3 feet
back of his bedroom.

Hot rats! The device worked,

Andy got his sleep and I didn't think much of the
matter again.

A few months ago I had new neighbors on each
side of my house, four of them, all with noisy
unshuttupable dogs. Argh!

So I foned Andrew in Virgina, received the intelligence
that his neighbors dogs were still quiet, and then I foned
Jerry Howe, the inventor of Doggie Do Right, who came
to visit me.

Merlin walked into my office.

Jerry is a slender fellow with a belly button lenghth grey
beard tapering down his chest. I liked him immediately,
and I applied his instrument to the neighborhood again
which again became silent.

It occured to me that if this ultrasonic field worked with
dogs that we ought at least to ask the question, what
happens to humans in range of the device???

I asked Jerry to give me a list of customers and began
inquiring among them. One thing became immediately
evident. The Doggie Do Right not only shuts up your
neighbors' dogs, it calms and modifies your husband's behavior.

Holey Moley, Captain Marvel, this device has major potential.

In the meantime Jerry gave me a copy of his Wits End
Dog Training Manual. I was delighted. He also introduced
me to the world of professional dog trainers some of whom
even have Ph.D.s in psychology.

This was not such a delight as it appeared that none
of these luminaries had actually read Skinner, Lazarus
or other fountains of wisdom in psychology. Indeed, it
seemed as though they knew very little about the laws
of behavior at all!

Punishment and confrontation seemed to be their
major stock in trade.

Well, if you go to my website, www.drbiofeedback.com
you can read of the career of Sam Corson, I.P. Pavlov's
last student.

Sam demonstrated that rehabilitation of hyperactive
dogs can easily and readily be done using TLC, tender
loving care is at the root of the scientific management
of doggies.

Pavlov told us so 100 years ago.

So what are these degreed morons doing punishing
dogs, and shouting "NO" into their doggie faces? If
you pick up B.F.Skinner's last book, CUMULATIVE
RECORD, included in it is an essay by Keller Breland
and Maryann Breland entitled THE MISBEHAVIOR OF ORGANISMS.

Skinner deliberately included his students' chapter
to emphasize that you cannot manage the behavior
of animals unless you take into consideration 1. the
animal's evolutionary niche (who is the animal?);
2. the animal's personal history (who is the animal?)
and 3, the instinctive repetoire of the animal (who is
the animal?) and 4. the personality of the animal (who
is the animal?).

The Brelands moved far from the white rat. "Thirty-eight
species, totaling over 6,000 individual animals, have been
conditioned, and we have dared to tackle such unlikely
subjects as reindeer, cockatoos, raccoons, porpoises,
and whales."

Jerry Howe spends most of his times with dogs, but
he has learned Pavlov's lesson well. Dogs are individuals,
they are individual DOGS, and they respond most directly
and immediately to love and tender loving care.

Read with pleasure, and then go love your dog.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
Who's Who Honoree since 1983

            From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)

        The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

      I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
      years. I have a huge library that covers every system
      of training.

      The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
      Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
      the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
      method yet discovered.

      It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
      a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
      and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
      consistent manner.

      Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
      understand the basis of his system and please follow
      his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
      It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
      descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
      how their solution should be approached.

      One should not pick and choose from among his methods
      based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
      not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
      for not only training a dog but for raising a loving
      companion.

      When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
      you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
      produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

      You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
      with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
      praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
      will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
      Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
      just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
      dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
      seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
      lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

      Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
      praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
      train you dog to respond to your commands.

      What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
      puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
      carry him in response to my recall command-and he
      comes running every time I call no matter where we are
      or what he is doing.

      At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
      his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
      his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

     Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
     scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
     if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
     you.

     Is Jerry a nut?

    It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
    It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based upon
    their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
    wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply
    when he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding
    or hurting dogs.

    More than that, he knows  that force is not effective
    and that it will certainly  lead to behavior problems;
    sometime problems so severe  that people put their
    dogs down because of those problems.

   I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
   their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
   at our wits' end, haven't we?

   Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
   literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
   respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
   to praise.

  Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
  wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
  You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
  dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
  along with their anxiety.

  Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
  Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
  would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
  success.

  Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

  If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet little
  Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little gremlin
  (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

       Instrumental / Classical / Operant / Conditioning
           CC / OC / IC / -P +P / +R -R / S R / R S
              It's ALL The SAME SAME SAME SAME
                        <{); ~ ) >

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400

   You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.

I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.

This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals.  Yum!

The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD.  They include a
sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the
history of this animal's species and group, the developmental
history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.

Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.

A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired.  If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.

Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.

The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.

The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and
B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major
role in the development of American psychology.

They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)

Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.

It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.

One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning.  Pfui!

Even Skinner understood this!

And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.

Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued
us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis.  Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite
Salter as a source.  "...all the highest nervous activity, as
it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a
continual change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition."  Ivan P. Pavlov

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

            All truth passes through three stages.
                  First, it  is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
         Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                   -Arthur Schopenhauer

            "Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
                even tho it's a hopeless task,
                     in this system of things.
                As long as man is ruling man,
             there will be animals (and humans!)
                  abused and neglected. :-(
                   Your student," Juanita.

        "If you've got them by the balls their hearts
                   and minds will follow,"
                       John Wayne.

             The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~  )  >
 
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