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Kitty - 10 Aug 2005 10:27 GMT
I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
vet --cost me $150+...bad upper respiratory infection. 2 weeks ago I brought
back to vet and she diagnosed with FIP--vet said she is
terminal........cried my eyes out.......

Now I need to know WHEN its time to have her put to sleep...she is still
eating --not much at all and drinking water very little. Her backbone sticks
out and her belly swollen and wobbly. I am heartsick knowin she gonna die
soon. She is only 1 yr old..........she is the most lovable kitty I ever
owned....

Please help me......when will I know ? I don't want her to suffer, but I
don't want to lose her prematurely.

The vet diagnosed her by saying she had lots of fluid in abdomen...????

Please help
thanks
Kitty
shortfuse - 10 Aug 2005 11:49 GMT
I understand completely! The same happened to me. When I told I cried for 3
weeks. We had other cats, so we couldnt very well take the chance of them
catching it. We had the vet put him to sleep at that time. We did take his
ashes home later in an urn provided by the vets. Have a photo of him beside
his remains.
It's a shame people dont take care of their cats by neutering/spaying them
to prevent unwanted pregnancies and to keep their cats current with
innoculations...especially if they are outdoor cats.
My heart goes to you, Kitty!
Hugs,

>I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> thanks
> Kitty
mia - 10 Aug 2005 13:40 GMT
> It's a shame people dont take care of their cats by neutering/spaying them
> to prevent unwanted pregnancies

What the hell does THAT have to do with FIP?  Seriously.
shortfuse - 10 Aug 2005 19:41 GMT
Maybe nothing...but it doesnt warrant being rude.

>> It's a shame people dont take care of their cats by neutering/spaying
>> them
>> to prevent unwanted pregnancies
>
> What the hell does THAT have to do with FIP?  Seriously.
necros - 10 Aug 2005 21:15 GMT
Seriously Mia? If you don't know manners by now, I don't think you ever
will. I was also in the vet's examining room, I had named the stray. Now,
given the information that we could have it put to sleep then or keep it
alive for a few long torturous months. How do you think we felt?
Rob, Shortfuse's husband

>> It's a shame people dont take care of their cats by neutering/spaying
>> them
>> to prevent unwanted pregnancies
>
> What the hell does THAT have to do with FIP?  Seriously.
Phil P. - 11 Aug 2005 04:02 GMT
> I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
> vet --cost me $150+...bad upper respiratory infection. 2 weeks ago I
brought
> back to vet and she diagnosed with FIP--vet said she is
> terminal........cried my eyes out.......
>
> Now I need to know WHEN its time to have her put to sleep...she is still
> eating --not much at all and drinking water very little. Her backbone
sticks
> out and her belly swollen and wobbly. I am heartsick knowin she gonna die
> soon. She is only 1 yr old..........she is the most lovable kitty I ever
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> thanks
> Kitty

Kitty,

Before you make an irreversible decision, ask your vet to have the fluid
analyzed.  There are several different types of fluid which are produced by
disease processes *other* than FIP.  Analyzing the fluid may help determine
the cause of the process that's producing the fluid- which may be
*treatable*.

Did your vet run any blood tests?

Please consider having the fluid analyzed as soon as possible.

Keep the faith.

Phil
Kitty - 11 Aug 2005 10:28 GMT
>> I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
>> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Phil

The only thing the vet did, was withdraw some fluid from abdominal area. He
said it has a high specific gravity indicative of FIP and he was pretty sure
that's what she has. He also said it is very difficult to diagnose....can a
blood test be definitive? If so I will bring her back Saturday! I want her
to live .....if there's a possibility she does NOT have FIP------I want to
help her....she is a fabulous kitty and still loving right now.

To all who replied to my plea........thank you. I can do research on web
about FIP but there's no "real" accounts of what to expect or how soon they
pass away! or WHEN to have them put to sleep, so all replies very much
welcome as I struggle thru this ...but Tammy is struggling more....

Kitty
Phil P. - 11 Aug 2005 11:07 GMT
> >> I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> >> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> said it has a high specific gravity indicative of FIP and he was pretty sure
> that's what she has.

FIP fluid is usually viscous or kinda ropey, and yellowish to straw-colored
and it might contain tiny fibrin strands.  The specific gravity is high
(1.017-1.047) and the protein content is also high(5-12 g/dL),  The best
analysis of the fluid is protein determinations and electrophoresis.

> He also said it is very difficult to diagnose...

FIP is a catch-all diagnosis that some vets use when they can't figure out
what the cat actually has. This way he can't be blamed if the cat dies.

.can a
> blood test be definitive?

A blood test can almost definitively rule out FIP but not definitively
diagnose FIP.  In FIP, serum protein and globulin levels are very high and
the albumin-to-globulin ratio is <0.4.  If the A:G ratio is >0.8, you can
rule out FIP.

If so I will bring her back Saturday! I want her
> to live .....if there's a possibility she does NOT have FIP------I want to
> help her....she is a fabulous kitty and still loving right now.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> pass away! or WHEN to have them put to sleep, so all replies very much
> welcome as I struggle thru this ...but Tammy is struggling more....

If I were you, I wouldn't make any decisions until I had some bloodwork done
and the fluid analyzed

Best of luck,

Phil
I'm bAck wIth my Fav4ite    Midis - 10 Aug 2005 14:27 GMT

cat with FIP ?  

Group: alt.pets.cats Date: Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 5:27am From:
cowgirla@comcast.net (Kitty)
I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations
and been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I
brought to vet --cost me $150+...bad upper respiratory infection. 2
weeks ago I brought back to vet and she diagnosed with FIP--vet said she
is terminal........cried my eyes out.......
Now I need to know WHEN its time to have her put to sleep...she is still
eating --not much at all and drinking water very little. Her backbone
sticks out and her belly swollen and wobbly. I am heartsick knowin she
gonna die soon. She is only 1 yr old..........she is the most lovable
kitty I ever owned....
Please help me......when will I know ? I don't want her to suffer, but I
don't want to lose her prematurely.
The vet diagnosed her by saying she had lots of fluid in abdomen...????
Please help
thanks
Kitty

I found this doing a web search.
http://rfwclub.org/vfip.htm
Dr.Carla,DVM - 10 Aug 2005 18:05 GMT
Only you can decide when to put your cat to sleep.
The fluid in her abdomen is outside of all her organs and is part of the
pain and devastation of this disease.  The disease also attacks many of her
organs too.
Personally, if my cat did not seem to be happy anymore, that is the point
where I would opt for euthanasia.
Feel comforted in the fact that there is nothing you could do to prevent
this disease.  It is not certain whether vaccinating for coronavirus even
helps.  (FIP is a variant of a coronavirus.  While most cats will carry the
coronavirus, but not all will develop FIP.)
Most cats from shelters will have a URI (upper respiratory infection) after
they have been in the shelter for more than 3 days.  The shelter I am most
familiar with (Chicago Anti-Cruelty Society) does what it can to keep the
new cats away from the older cats, but also will treat (in house, or after
you adopt) if the cat does come down with a URI.  Due to the overwhelming
abundance of URI in shelters the cats there usually get it pretty bad and
have to be treated for 30 days.
I am not trying to dissuade  anyone from adopting a cat from a shelter by
any means.  I just want all to be aware of this situation and to know to ask
their shelter representative how it will be treated if an URI occurs after a
cat is adopted.

>I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> thanks
> Kitty
Dr.Carla,DVM - 11 Aug 2005 02:44 GMT
Only you can decide when to put your cat to sleep.
The fluid in her abdomen is outside of all her organs and is part of the
pain and devastation of this disease.  The disease also attacks many of her
organs too.
Personally, if my cat did not seem to be happy anymore, that is the point
where I would opt for euthanasia.
Feel comforted in the fact that there is nothing you could do to prevent
this disease.  It is not certain whether vaccinating for coronavirus even
helps.  (FIP is a variant of a coronavirus.  While most cats will carry the
coronavirus, but not all will develop FIP.)
Most cats from shelters will have a URI (upper respiratory infection) after
they have been in the shelter for more than 3 days.  The shelter I am most
familiar with (Chicago Anti-Cruelty Society) does what it can to keep the
new cats away from the older cats, but also will treat (in house, or after
you adopt) if the cat does come down with a URI.  Due to the overwhelming
abundance of URI in shelters the cats there usually get it pretty bad and
have to be treated for 30 days.
I am not trying to dissuade  anyone from adopting a cat from a shelter by
any means.  I just want all to be aware of this situation and to know to ask
their shelter representative how it will be treated if an URI occurs after a
cat is adopted.
Dr. Carla, DVM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitty" <cowgirla@comcast.net>
Newsgroups: alt.pets.cats
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:27 AM
Subject: cat with FIP ?

>I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> thanks
> Kitty
Dr.Carla,DVM - 12 Aug 2005 05:36 GMT
Here is a link to a site connected to a very reputable veterinary network.
Information on FIP.
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=232

>I rescued a cat 3 months ago. I was told she had all her vaccinations and
> been neutered. 4 days after bringing her home she got so sick I brought to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> thanks
> Kitty
 
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