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Signs of cats in heat.
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Dude Harry - 10 May 2005 23:22 GMT Hi. We have 2 female kittens about 7 months old. They are making sounds like crying more than meowing and get down on their stomachs when you approcach them and continue meowing and crying. They do this even more if you pet them and they also raise their backends as you pet them from their head to their tail. Is this a sign of the cats in heat or some other strange cat behaviour. We have had them about 1 month now and they just started doing this.
Please reply here or to the email below. Thank you for any help and info in advance.
davehansen@sympatico.ca
Victor Martinez - 11 May 2005 00:21 GMT > Hi. We have 2 female kittens about 7 months old. They are making Why on earth haven't you spayed them yet?
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jacquie0 - 12 May 2005 21:28 GMT >> Hi. We have 2 female kittens about 7 months old. They are making > > Why on earth haven't you spayed them yet? Easy Victor.....Not all people are aware how early cats can come into heat. Maybe they do not want to spay their females. They might be purbred cats and they want to show them or breed them for their own purposes. I know, I know, it is not always the most responsible thing to do, but people are going to do it whether we tell them or not. Who knows, maybe they are new to the world of cats and therefore are not sure what to do, or how to do it. There could be a number of reasons as to why they have not had them spayed yet. When dealing with people in these newsgroups, I have found that in the past, when someone "berates" another "groupie", they get upset and leave the group. This is really a shame. I always find that if they leave the group, then they might not get the advice or help that they need. You may have not meant to "berate" this person, but that is the way it is coming across.
Victor Martinez - 13 May 2005 03:10 GMT > Easy Victor.....Not all people are aware how early cats can come into > heat. Maybe they do not want to spay their females. They might be > purbred cats and they want to show them or breed them for their own People ignorant enough to be asking whether or not their cat is in heat have no business breeding purebred cats.
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Philip - 13 May 2005 15:16 GMT >> Easy Victor.....Not all people are aware how early cats can come into >> heat. Maybe they do not want to spay their females. They might be >> purbred cats and they want to show them or breed them for their own > > People ignorant enough to be asking whether or not their cat is in > heat have no business breeding purebred cats. Let me kick the soap box out from under you. EVERYONE has asked the question at some point "What are the signs my cat is coming into heat?" There isn't a breeder alive that hasn't asked that question a LONG time before they became a breeder.
Orchid - 13 May 2005 21:12 GMT >>> Easy Victor.....Not all people are aware how early cats can come into >>> heat. Maybe they do not want to spay their females. They might be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >There isn't a breeder alive that hasn't asked that question a LONG time >before they became a breeder. I disagree. People starting responsible breeding programs have *mentors* because responsible breeders don't just sell breeding cats to anyone who walks in the door. If you haven't already done your homework on feline husbandry, you have absolutely no business breeding cats.
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Victor Martinez - 13 May 2005 21:29 GMT > cats to anyone who walks in the door. If you haven't already done > your homework on feline husbandry, you have absolutely no business > breeding cats. My point exactly.
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Philip - 14 May 2005 01:55 GMT >> cats to anyone who walks in the door. If you haven't already done >> your homework on feline husbandry, you have absolutely no business >> breeding cats. > > My point exactly. One does not have to have breeding intentions to ask the question "how do I tell if/when my cat comes into heat?" Certainly there are those who believe in waiting until the first heat comes on befor spaying. They would ask the very question about signs.
Philip - 14 May 2005 01:55 GMT >>>> Easy Victor.....Not all people are aware how early cats can come >>>> into heat. Maybe they do not want to spay their females. They [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Orchid Then in fact you DO AGREE with me. The question "how can I tell my cat is coming into heat" will be asked by the curious or the student and addressed thru research or instruction. Breeder or animal lover, is not relevant.
Orchid - 14 May 2005 02:51 GMT >Then in fact you DO AGREE with me. The question "how can I tell my cat is >coming into heat" will be asked by the curious or the student and addressed >thru research or instruction. Breeder or animal lover, is not relevant. I believe I have found the point of disconnect here. :) Victor and I were responding to the suggestion jacquie made that the OP had not spayed his cats yet because he was planning on breeding them. Of course a new cat owner is not going to know necessarily what the signs of heat are, and of course they need to ask. However, a new cat *breeder* should not be breeding if they have to ask those same questions.
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Philip - 14 May 2005 05:08 GMT >> Then in fact you DO AGREE with me. The question "how can I tell my >> cat is coming into heat" will be asked by the curious or the student [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Orchid Not only that, men are notoriously clueless about reading such signals accurately (nudge nudge, wink wink).
Dude Harry - 14 May 2005 00:25 GMT Hi. I use newsgroups ocassionally to get help with computer concerns mostly. I posted a question here to see if I could get some info on 2 cats. I am amazed at how many people that use the newsgroups just need and love to step on everyone. They read everyones posts that really does not interest them just so they can berate and bash someone when they know nothing of the person or circumstances. There are too many people like this reading newsgroups that ruin it for newbies and others interested in asking for help. Yes, maybe I am doing the same here, but no matter what group you read or post to there are many people just dying to flame and berate people.
There could be several reasone why we asked how to tell if a cat is in heat.
Maybe we have never had cats before. Maybe we are volunteering our time and home to cure these cats of a contagious respiratory illness for the SPCA. Maybe the SPCA never told us the cats could come into heat soon. Maybe the people at the SPCA said they have to wait until their off their medication in 1 more week before they can see a vet to get sprayed. Maybe we did not realize cats of 6-7 months could go into heat so early. Maybe the people at the SPCA said being in heat is normal and does not harm the cats and they can wait one more week. Maybe we have an appoiintment with the vet next Friday the 20th of May to get this fixed when their medication ends. Maybe people who are so unsociable they should get rid of their computer so they do not get pissed trying to help people. Maybe if we knew everything we would not have to post questions to news groups. Maybe it is all of the above.
Some people should find a new hobby like a prison guard where you could beat people physically to releave your stress.
Catherine - 14 May 2005 04:30 GMT No one actually answered this poster's question...
It sounds like your cats are in heat. Cats can come into heat as early as four months. Four months would be extremely early and very rare, but it has happened.
I also suggest spaying them. The vet may charge more to spay them during their heat - it's your decision to have it done or wait until after they're out of heat.
Philip - 14 May 2005 05:08 GMT > No one actually answered this poster's question... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > during their heat - it's your decision to have it done or wait until > after they're out of heat. Even YOU failed to answer the OP's question. So, does the cat start wandering about the house yowling at shadows? Does she start eating a whole lot more than usual? Does she start peeing outside the box? Is she more affectionate or distant than usual? Maybe she squirms around on the carpet on her belly? Tell us, Catherine !! LOL
Dude Harry - 14 May 2005 17:25 GMT Hi Philip. Thank you for indirectly answering my concerns with the cats in this post. You are the only one that did so far.
>> No one actually answered this poster's question... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >affectionate or distant than usual? Maybe she squirms around on the carpet >on her belly? Tell us, Catherine !! LOL ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 14 May 2005 20:09 GMT > Hi Philip. Thank you for indirectly answering my concerns with the > cats in this post. You are the only one that did so far. Now that it's been answered to you correctly, what is the status of your two young girls? Are they going for a spay this week? I hope so!! Too many bitties in the world as it is. :(
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Dude Harry - 15 May 2005 00:35 GMT Hi.Yes they are going to get spayed this Friday May 20, now that the SPCA said we can stop the medication. The SPCA gave them some shots and some mite control and arranged the vets appointment for next Friday. (these are indoor cats and would not ever get pregnent anyway) I did mention in a previous post that we are only looking after the cats for the SPCA since they had a contagious disease to the other cats. We may adopt them ourselves when they recuperate from the vet, as they are both 7 months old and are very friendly with us considering the hand feeding for 1 week and forced pills and eye medication for 3 weeks, and they get along great together.
>> Hi Philip. Thank you for indirectly answering my concerns with the >> cats in this post. You are the only one that did so far. > >Now that it's been answered to you correctly, what is the status of your two >young girls? Are they going for a spay this week? I hope so!! Too many >bitties in the world as it is. :( ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 15 May 2005 01:06 GMT > Hi.Yes they are going to get spayed this Friday May 20, now that the > SPCA said we can stop the medication. The SPCA gave them some shots [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > considering the hand feeding for 1 week and forced pills and eye > medication for 3 weeks, and they get along great together. Sounds great, D. Harry!! I *hope* you keep the bitties!! ;o) And thanks for sharing your plans!!
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> >> Hi Philip. Thank you for indirectly answering my concerns with the > >> cats in this post. You are the only one that did so far. > > > >Now that it's been answered to you correctly, what is the status of your two > >young girls? Are they going for a spay this week? I hope so!! Too many > >bitties in the world as it is. :( Catherine - 15 May 2005 00:12 GMT I did answer his question. The OP's question was "is this a sign of cats in heat?" and I answered, "It sounds like your cats are in heat."
Philip - 15 May 2005 00:50 GMT > I did answer his question. The OP's question was "is this a sign of > cats in heat?" and I answered, "It sounds like your cats are in heat." You're like the farmer that starts his directions to a traveler with "You can't get there from here."
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 15 May 2005 01:08 GMT > > I did answer his question. The OP's question was "is this a sign of > > cats in heat?" and I answered, "It sounds like your cats are in heat." > > You're like the farmer that starts his directions to a traveler with "You > can't get there from here." And you're a nit picker who is just trying to cause trouble. Don't let him bait you, Catherine.
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Philip - 15 May 2005 02:29 GMT >>> I did answer his question. The OP's question was "is this a sign of >>> cats in heat?" and I answered, "It sounds like your cats are in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > And you're a nit picker who is just trying to cause trouble. Don't > let him bait you, Catherine. Geee... look what what I hooked without "bait." LLL, are you really that hungry for attention?
Knucklehead - 16 May 2005 19:36 GMT Amen Phillip! I can't respond to any post but what she[Laurie] is on my case.Always a nasty bite at someone that has nothing to do with the post. DEW
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 16 May 2005 22:47 GMT > Amen Phillip! I can't respond to any post but what she[Laurie] is on my > case.Always a nasty bite at someone that has nothing to do with the post. > DEWY Awww, c'mon, DEWY!! You know you like the attention. Don't get your big white panties in a bunch!!
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Roberta Bagshaw - 21 May 2005 03:45 GMT Hi Dude Harry
What you have described is typical behaviour of a female cat in heat. This is quite usual at that age, and can occur much earlier than that ......from about the age of 5 months is not unusual!
If you do not intend to breed with your cats, it is of course most advisable to have the cats sterilized (both males and females).
As the secretary of a local branch of the RSPCA here in West Australia, I cannot emphasis enough how much of the neglect, abandonment and cruelty that occurs with household pets is caused by unwanted pregnancies. Our work would be much reduced if only people would be responsible and have their pets sterilized.
If you REALLy love animals, then sterilize your pets. The RSPCA does not re-home any animal from its shelters that have not been sterilized, as it has long realized that thoughtlessly allowing pets to reproduce is the root cause of many of the animal welfare issues that we encounter.
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> Hi. We have 2 female kittens about 7 months old. They are making > sounds like crying more than meowing and get down on their stomachs [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > davehansen@sympatico.ca Philip - 21 May 2005 05:36 GMT > If you REALLy love animals, then sterilize your pets. The RSPCA does > not re-home any animal from its shelters that have not been > sterilized, as it has long realized that thoughtlessly allowing pets > to reproduce is the root cause of many of the animal welfare issues > that we encounter. Same to be said of poor people? ;^)
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