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Need help with cat in Hawaii

Group: alt.pets.cats Date: Mon, May 9, 2005, 9:47pm From: n (<n>)
Our cat is in Hawaii quarantine. They are threatening to put her to
sleep because we cant afford the $2000 they want for withholding her for
rabies she didnt have.
Does anyone know the phone numbers to the spca
or a good newspaper or tv reporter there? thanks

Are you the same person that posted about this months ago? I remember
someone posting about not being able to get their cat out over there &
according from what I remember this person & family live some where else
in the U.S & their cat had all the shots required but still had to be
quaranteed & when that person who brought that cat to Hawaii with all
the shots that cat needed wanted to go back home with that cat they
weren't allowed to take it. Someone besides me has to remember reading
about this

Yes that was us. Everyday they add $17.00 to the cost of barding the cat. we
don't know what to do and time is running out. The suggestions we recieved
before weren't feasible. My wife took the cat there after spending three
hundred dollars trying to satisfy the regulations and the quarantine is
basically a scam. She took the cat indending to give it back to her daughter
who's husband is stationed there. We tried to resolve the matter by
promising to pay but they refused that. Now they are threatening to kill the
cat and sue us for the now $2500+.

Re: Need help with cat in Hawaii  

Group: alt.pets.cats Date: Tue, May 10, 2005, 6:48am From:
Ahh_YEs_HaPPyTrailz_back_again@webtv.net
(I'm bAck wIth my Fav4ite Midis)
Need help with cat in Hawaii
Group: alt.pets.cats Date: Mon, May 9, 2005, 9:47pm From: n (<n>)
Our cat is in Hawaii quarantine. They are threatening to put her to
sleep because we cant afford the $2000 they want for withholding her for
rabies she didnt have.
        Does anyone know the phone numbers to the spca
or a good newspaper or tv reporter there? thanks
Are you the same person that posted about this months ago? I remember
someone posting about not being able to get their cat out over there &
according from what I remember this person & family live some where else
in the U.S & their cat had all the shots required but still had to be
quaranteed & when that person who brought that cat to Hawaii with all
the shots that cat needed wanted to go back home with that cat they
weren't allowed to take it. Someone besides me has to remember reading
about this

"I'm bAck wIth my Fav4iteMidis" <Ahh_YEs_HaPPyTrailz_back_again@webtv.net>
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Need help with cat in Hawaii

Group: alt.pets.cats Date: Mon, May 9, 2005, 9:47pm From: n (<n>)
Our cat is in Hawaii quarantine. They are threatening to put her to
sleep because we cant afford the $2000 they want for withholding her for
rabies she didnt have.
Does anyone know the phone numbers to the spca
or a good newspaper or tv reporter there? thanks

Is there a phone number to call over there? Does your cat have a case or
file number? See I can call. I need more info though like the exact
location. The name of the place where the cats at? Something's not
right.

RABIES QUARANTINE BRANCH
99-951 HALAWA VALLEY STREET
AIEA,  HI 96701
PHONE 808-483-7146
FAX 808-483-7161

   Our cat Mau-mau (listed under last name Perez) was taken over to Hawaii
October 16th 2004. My wife followed all of the directions given to her by
the above office. She got a certificate of travel from a Georgia
veterinarian that declared the cat free of rabies. We paid money for more
shots including rabies boosters, and paid for a microchip as required.
   My wife got to Hawaii and instead of being allowed to get the cat after
five days due to having the required certificate they start giving excuses.
my wife is a retired infection control nurse and she sees thru their fake
claims. She spends almost two months there trying to get the cat. Each time
she gets a lie or some new excuse. The only reason they could keep the cat
legally is if they suspect rabies. No one tells my wife that the cat is
racking up a bill for quarantine.Other states do not carge this fee.
   My wife leaves Hawaii in December and is told at the airport, no $600,
no cat. we did not have this money.
   We contact the Quarantine station, the governor, and email two
newspapers. We tell them all that we dont have the money and that it is
unfair not only to suprise us with these high fees but that the cat should
have never been quarantined over five days to begin with. They say no money,
no cat. finally after 4 more months they tell us that they will work with
us. we try to get cat and promise to pay a reasonable amount and then they
change their minds and say no money no cat. The cat is scheduled for
disposal on the 15th of this month.
   Every time we contact these people we get a different song and dance.
   I googled them and there have been tons of problems with this place.
They depend on these fees for their benefits, retirement plans and all sorts
of extra goodies. The military even went so far as getting a law passed to
help military personnel pay for the fees but this amount is a pitance
compared to what is now owed. It is pure fraud but because its under the
guise of a government entity no body sees it as such. Lets face it, if they
followed the laws and didn't quarantine all of the animals then a lot of
them would not be needed and out of work.

If i could afford an attorney i wouldnt have this problem.
As for tv stations we live in a part of Georgia where the TV station is an
hour away and doesnt do "investigations"

First of all, we have contacted the news. The daughter has given us numbers
but the numbers she found did not involve themselves in that type of disput.
My last posting for instance got unhelpful answers. You asked about the
husband being stationed in Hawaii yet being in the middle east. He is
statioed in Hawaii but has been in Afganistan until a few days ago. We have
been led to believe repeatedly that different people were doing things for
us only to finally hear, sorry.
   Yes something smells fishy and it all comes down to my wife not asking
the place what the fees were. Okay she screwed up but she was led to believe
that she would have the caty after five days. She was constantly lied to and
we still get lied to.
   My view is ...we dont have $2000. I ll agree to pay $50 a month but they
seem to be more interested in killing the cat and suing us for the money.
When the bill was $600 they were informed of the problem the second the bill
was presented. They could have just given us the cat and either sued us or
worked out a payment plan, but the law apparently doesn't allow such.

WANT TO MOVE A PET TO HAWAII?
"Inside the Turret" * May 20, 1999 Fort Knox, KY
Soldiers moving to Hawaii may pay more for mandatory quarantine
(Editor's Note....former length of quarantine can be reduced if certain
actions are taken. For more info, see your military veterinarian)

By Capt. RICHARD SPIEGEL
17th Public Affairs Detachment

Soldiers moving to Hawaii with pets may soon pay nearly three times the
current fees to keep their animals in mandatory quarantine.

The Hawaii State Board of Agriculture voted unanimously April 29 to approve
the proposed fee increases. The new fee schedule must be reviewed by the
attorneys office and approved by the governor before taking effect. Soldiers
could begin paying the new fees as early as mid-May.

Fees for dogs and cats will increase to $655 for the 30 day quarantine and
$1,080 for 120-day pets. The board will allow a 45-day transition period
beginning upon final approval of the new fees, during which 30-day pets will
cost $555.

Current quarantine fees for the 30-day program are $290 for dogs and $275
for cats. Fees for 120 day quarantines are $875 for dogs and $815 for cats.
New fees will apply to both animals. Hawaii mandates a 120-day quarantine
program to prevent the introduction of rabies to the state.

Owners can qualify their pets for the 30-day shortened quarantine by
pre-registering with the quarantine facility by telephone or mail, and
completing a series of tests, vaccinations and veterinary examinations
before arrival. To qualify for the 30-day quarantine, pets must also be
implanted with an identifying microchip and must successfully pass a test
for rabies immunity before they are released from quarantine. Pets that
complete the 30-day program are still subject to 90-days of home
observation. Pets are not restricted in anyway during this time but owners
must submit a veterinary statement to the quarantine facility before final
clearance from the program.

"I would have found a decent home for my dog in Colorado...it would have
killed me to get rid of her," said Sgt. Paul Morris, processing NCO, 25th
Replacement Detachment, when asked how the new fee would have affected him.

Morris' dog arrived six months ago under the current fee schedule."We had to
budget and save for months to afford the 30-day fee, all the associated
costs getting the dog qualified for the 30-day program and shipping costs,"
said Morris. "The total was over $600. I don't know many privates or
specialists who could afford half a months pay just for their pet.

"Animals spend less time at the facility due to the new 30-day reduced
quarantine program, said Dr. Jim Foppoli, administrator, Hawaii State
Division of Animal Industry. But, he said, fewer days in quarantine means
less revenue for the state run quarantine facility in Hawaii. The reduced
revenue is not sufficient to operate the facility, which is required by law
to be self-sustaining.

The animal quarantine program was general operating fund to special fund
status in July 1998. Special fund programs do not receive state subsidies
and must pay all of their operating costs from revenues.

Under the special fund program the facility must pay for employee fringe
benefits that were previously paid by the state, said Foppoli. There are
also administrative costs associated with the special fund. The facility has
cut back on expenses by cutting some part-time and permanent positions as
well as leaving some full-time jobs unfilled.

The Board of Agriculture approved the increases despite public testimony
that was overwhelmingly opposed to the new fees."It is not fair to impose a
fee that may require incoming residents to give up their cherished pets,"
said Pamela Byrne, president, Hawaiian Humane Society. She said pets are
family to most people and any increase will cause undue anguish for those
who face the prospect of leaving a pet on the mainland for financial
reasons.

Quarantine is imposed for the protection of everyone living in Hawaii, said
Byrne. Many other state activities are subsidized by the state government
because those activities are in the state's and publics best interest.
Insisting that the quaraid for by the user is inconsistent with other state
activities, examples include harbor fees, A+ program fees and automobile
registration fees.(Sic)

Military officials through out Hawaii see the increase as a quality of life
issue that will impact hardest on junior enlisted families. Options to
mitigate the effects of the increased fees are now under study at the
various military commands. In the interim, officials at Schofield Barracks
urge unit leaders to get the word out to incoming families so they can plan
and prepare for what they say could prove to be a tough and agonizing
choice.

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