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Dave the Wave - 11 Apr 2005 17:42 GMT
Hi:
Questions 1-
I have 3 cats which have all gotten along well for 2 or more years. All
are females, the oldest 2 (mother/daughter) are spayed. Recently, the
oldest (about 5 years old) went into hiding in an attic crawl space that
I have left open for the cats to explore. (I opened up the space well
over a year ago.) I check on this oldest cat and she still comes to me
and purrs as I pet her. She has lost a good deal of weight, but is still
healthy looking. If I take food to her she eats, but when I tried to
bring her down stairs to the feeding area, she was very disturbed by the
other 2 cats and took off, back to the attic.

She went into hiding once before.  I hadn't seen her in 2 or 3 days, so
I set out looking for her. I found her under my love-seat sofa. I left
her  alone for another day or two to make sure she really was hiding.
When I brought her out I noticed She had developed a small skin problem
that caused hair loss in a few small patchy places. I purchased some
ointment which cleared up the skin rash and everything was fine for
several months. My first inclination was that the skin rash had
reappeared, but I see no sign of skin irritation or any other physical
problems.

She has always been a bit of a recluse, but this is extreme -even for
her. Any ideas or thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Question 2-
The youngest female (about 2 years old, not spayed) has bad breath. She
has had this condition since I found her at only a few days old. I took
her to a vet before I brought her home to have her dewormed and checked
for other parasites. She was cleared by the vet, so I assume the breath
isn't caused by a parasite. My 2 other cats have never had bad breath
like hers. It smells like old seafood. Again, any suggestions or
information would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Diana - 11 Apr 2005 22:28 GMT
Dave the Wave at bogus3@softhome.net wrote on4/11/05 12:42 PM:

> Hi:
> Questions 1-
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> She has always been a bit of a recluse, but this is extreme -even for
> her. Any ideas or thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Non-answer but important comment #1:  Please do take food and water to her
regularly until she is ready to return, and keep petting her so that you get
a feel <pun intended> for how she is doing physically.  Do not allow her to
continue to lose weight.  In case you're not familiar with feline hepatic
lipidosis, it is a usually fatal condition caused by too rapid weight loss.

Possible answer #1:  As a momcat, she would've gotten herself away from her
kittens at some point when they were grown, had she been in the wild (which,
fortunately, she is not!).  This could be some vestige of that -- just
wanting to get away from the younger generation.  Alternatively, something
stressful has happened.  The previous skin problem might also have been
stress related.  

> Question 2-
> The youngest female (about 2 years old, not spayed) has bad breath. She
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> like hers. It smells like old seafood. Again, any suggestions or
> information would be greatly appreciated.

Possible answer #2:  Bad teeth/gums or digestive problems?  If pathology of
any kind is ruled out (requiring another trip to the vet for this specific
symptom) you can get her some kind of breath sweetener, chlorophyll or
something.

> Regards,
Back atcha, and let us know what is happening with your hider cat.
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Dave the Wave - 12 Apr 2005 19:10 GMT
> Dave the Wave at bogus3@softhome.net wrote on4/11/05 12:42 PM:
>
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>> Regards,
> Back atcha, and let us know what is happening with your hider cat.

Thanks so much for your comments. I need to have the youngest (bad
breath) kitten spade very soon. I'll have the vet shck in on her breath
problems as well. I will let everyone know what the vet says.

Thanks again!
David G.
Knucklehead - 14 Apr 2005 06:45 GMT
Re:#2 I agree with the others about possible teeth problems.My daughter in
Texas just had several of her cat's teeth removed[major oral surgery]and
her first indication something was wrong was the bad breath and then her
kitty started having trouble chewing.Check it out and good luck.Not a clue
about your #1.
DL Farnworth - 12 Apr 2005 17:01 GMT
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Regarding #1: The hiding does seem extreme.  A check
for a physical cause first seems like a good idea, if
only because that's more easily treated than a
behavioral problem.

Regarding #2: Bad breath is not a good sign.

Gingivitis or gum inflammation is common and dangerous.
Sometimes the cat has bad natural dental hygiene.
Sometimes the cat's immune system attacks the teeth or
the gums.  Sometimes the cat's mouth destroys a tooth
at the gum line and seals over the remaining stump,
which is then resorbed.  There are other things too.

All cause bad breath.  And all are painful and can harm
the kidneys.

A vet and time can make clear what's happening.

I hope that both kitties turn out to be fine.
Dave the Wave - 12 Apr 2005 19:13 GMT
"DL Farnworth" <felix_sum@yahoo.com> wrote in news:6hS6e.4846$yq6.4278
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> I hope that both kitties turn out to be fine.

Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I will keep checking in on
the attic cat and taking her food. I don't think my attempt to bring her
back into the living area went very well, so I will leave it up to her
to rejoin the ranks.

Regarding little miss bad-breath, she needs to be spade. I will have the
vet look into her breath issue then.

Thanks Again,
David G.
CMT525@webtv.net - 17 Apr 2005 19:38 GMT
If the cat in the attic were my cat I would take her to the vet ASAP.
Losing weight in an animal so small can be very dangerous and cats can
become dehydrated very easily.  A simple blood chemistry test can rule
out liver, heart and kidney problems.  I had a cat that hid to get away
from the other cat, but she always came out at meal time.  You really
should rule out all serious health problems.  

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