I've never had any pets before, and this December I got
from a friend two one-month old kittens: a male "tiger" (Stinky)
and his sister, Google. Here they are:
http://tinypic.com/1tvcbo
http://tinypic.com/1tvcqu
They are extremely active and very affectionate.
They play/mock fight with each other all the time.
I'm frequently away from home for days in a row, but they
dont seem to mind (no crapping on the bed, no destroying of
stuff, etc). Is it because they have each other and dont get bored?
I havent taken them to the vet yet, and I hate the idea of having
them neutered--I'm thinking of only neutering the female. Is this
a good idea?
I also plan to let them out when they grow up because I want them
to be free to roam and happy.
Any pointers, suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Ivor Jones - 25 Feb 2005 17:21 GMT
> I've never had any pets before, and this December I got
> from a friend two one-month old kittens: a male "tiger" (Stinky)
> and his sister, Google. Here they are:
>
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcbo
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcqu
They're gorgeous..!
> They are extremely active and very affectionate.
> They play/mock fight with each other all the time.
> I'm frequently away from home for days in a row, but they
> dont seem to mind (no crapping on the bed, no destroying of
> stuff, etc). Is it because they have each other and dont get bored?
Probably, two cats are better than one :-)
> I havent taken them to the vet yet, and I hate the idea of having
> them neutered--I'm thinking of only neutering the female. Is this
> a good idea?
******************* NO..!!! *******************
Get them *both* neutered..! An un-neutered tom roaming around will be
responsible for thousands of unwanted kittens..! Get them both done
soon..! *Why* haven't you taken them to the vet yet..?
> I also plan to let them out when they grow up because I want them
> to be free to roam and happy.
I'm not one of those who will automatically tell you to keep your cats
inside, but some will undoubtedly do so. Having said that, depending on
where you live, it might not be a bad idea. Here in the UK predators
aren't such a problem as in many areas of the US, and I would never let a
cat out in a city centre for example. But then I wouldn't have cats if I
lived in a city centre.
All the best and let us know how you get on. And take those kitties to the
vet and get them neutered and microchipped (very important if you do let
them out) NOW..!!!!
Ivor
Shadow Walker - 25 Feb 2005 17:43 GMT
> I've never had any pets before, and this December I got
> from a friend two one-month old kittens: a male "tiger" (Stinky)
> and his sister, Google. Here they are:
>
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcbo
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcqu
Oh they are just beautiful. If you have time read everything you can in
books and on the internet about cats. Just so you can have a heads up on
changes in behavior as they grow.
> They are extremely active and very affectionate.
> They play/mock fight with each other all the time.
> I'm frequently away from home for days in a row, but they
> don't seem to mind (no crapping on the bed, no destroying of
> stuff, etc). Is it because they have each other and don't get bored?
Keep each other company they will do. Excrement around the house is usually
a health thing or jealousy thing not a boredom thing. Cats by nature try to
keep themselves and their environment clean. Torn up paper to them is not
garbage. lol.
> I havent taken them to the vet yet, and I hate the idea of having
> them neutered--I'm thinking of only neutering the female. Is this
> a good idea?
Vetting is very important for their health now and in the future. Neutering
(Male)and spaying (Female) are very important for their health and to help
prevent unwanted litters from both sides, excrement and urine in the form of
territorial marking in and around your house. you really do not want to come
home after being gone 3 days and your tom has sprayed (Urinated a fine mist
of urine) onto you houseplant's, walls or in your closet on your cloths.
This is not all toms and sometimes females can do it to. Neutering (Male)and
spaying (Female) helps stop certain forms of cancer and helps keep them from
wondering if you choose to let them outside.
> I also plan to let them out when they grow up because I want them
> to be free to roam and happy.
I personally never let my current cats outside to roam. I have had many cats
that were indoor outdoor and none of them are with me today and only one
(She lived to be 8) made it over the age of three. They were all well cared
for (Vetted, shots, Neutering (Male)and spaying (Female).) Cars, poison,
pound and mean people do not care about such things. Thetas just a few
examples of the human eliminate that's not including wild and or tame dogs,
snakes, raccoon's, bobcats and the list goes on. My baby's are content to
look
out windows and glass doors. They love when the occasional bug makes it into
the house, then the hunt is on. I feel that my babies are happier in the
house and safer even if they may not get to do all the things their wild
cousins
do or did. I provide toys to build and satiate their hunting skills and I
play with them
to help my bond with them stay strong. So if they ever got outside they
would be willing to come to me.
> Any pointers, suggestions?
Research and experience are pretty much it.
> Thanks a lot!
You are very welcome.
FishWife - 25 Feb 2005 19:37 GMT
>I've never had any pets before, and this December I got
>from a friend two one-month old kittens: a male "tiger" (Stinky)
>and his sister, Google. Here they are:
>
>http://tinypic.com/1tvcbo
>http://tinypic.com/1tvcqu
Hi there, they're beautiful. I love the name Google, too.
>They are extremely active and very affectionate.
>They play/mock fight with each other all the time.
>I'm frequently away from home for days in a row, but they
>dont seem to mind (no crapping on the bed, no destroying of
>stuff, etc). Is it because they have each other and dont get bored?
Erm, not to point out the obvious or anything, but you're not leaving
them on their own for days in a row are you? There's someone else there
to look after them?? They need fresh food and water daily. I'm also a
bit concerned that you got them at 1 month old (I may have
misunderstood, but this seems to be what you are saying). Looks like
you're in the States, but here in the UK kittens aren't usually taken
away from their mother until at least 8 weeks old - they're not usually
fully weaned by 4 weeks, and they're unlikely to have adapted to not
having their mother's milk, and having her around. They can also
develop behavioural problems. Of course, it may be that they were
abandoned, and they weren't deliberately taken away from their mum in
which case, I'm glad you've taken them in to look after them.
>I havent taken them to the vet yet, and I hate the idea of having
>them neutered--I'm thinking of only neutering the female. Is this
>a good idea?
Wow. Take them to the vet NOW. Just take them for a check up - get
them worming tablets, registered, insured (if your vet offers this) and
work out a plan with your vet for when to get their jabs done, and when
to get them neutered. It's also a good idea to get them micro-chipped,
especially if you're planning on letting them out. In the UK jabs are
usually done at 8-12 weeks, and a follow-up booster after another 3
weeks. They then get annual boosters done. Some people don't agree
with having the boosters - but some catteries insist on them having them
done. It's good to be sure that you can leave them somewhere they will
be cared for if you have an emergency. Also, we usually neuter kittens
at around 6 months (or slightly earlier, provided they're at a certain
weight). It's definitely a good idea to get your little guy done too -
as lovely as kittens are, there are far too many unwanted kittens so
it's best to have him done or he will have all the neighbourhood cats
pregnant!
>I also plan to let them out when they grow up because I want them
>to be free to roam and happy.
Some people think it's best to keep cats indoors, and some think it's
better to let them out. The decision is yours, but personally, I let
mine out. I would wait until they've recovered from being neutered at
least, but do it slowly. You can get harnesses for cats so you can
"walk" them, which is a good way of letting them know what the territory
looks like before letting them out on their own.
>Thanks a lot!
Welcome. Good luck - and stick around - this place is a wealth of
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223rem - 25 Feb 2005 19:47 GMT
> Erm, not to point out the obvious or anything, but you're not leaving
> them on their own for days in a row are you?
Yes I am.
> There's someone else there
> to look after them??
No
> They need fresh food and water daily.
I have a feeder that can hold a large quantity of dry cat
food and also a water fountain that hold a gallon of water.
> I'm also a bit concerned that you got them at 1 month old (I may have
> misunderstood, but this seems to be what you are saying).
Yes. Their owner wanted to get rid of them asap.
> Looks like you're in the States,
Yep. As I said, it was either me, or the Humane Society for
them.
Thanks for your help.
Ivor Jones - 25 Feb 2005 20:05 GMT
>> Erm, not to point out the obvious or anything, but you're not
>> leaving them on their own for days in a row are you?
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>
> No
PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but this is NOT the way to go,
particularly with very young kittens. They need human interaction
*frequently* in their early months or they'll never get on with people.
Please, please, please see if you can find someone to come in and play
with them/feed them on a daily basis, even if it's just for an hour or so
each time. Cats *really do* need this, they are not the loners some people
think they are.
>> They need fresh food and water daily.
>
> I have a feeder that can hold a large quantity of dry cat
> food and also a water fountain that hold a gallon of water.
Not a substitute for human contact, I'm afraid.
>> I'm also a bit concerned that you got them at 1 month old (I may
>> have misunderstood, but this seems to be what you are saying).
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> Yep. As I said, it was either me, or the Humane Society for
> them.
Well you've taken them on, but realise that you are responsible for their
little lives, and will be for anything up to 15 years or more. *Please*
take care of them responsibly, leaving them for days will not be good for
them in the long term :-(
Ivor
FishWife - 25 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
>> Erm, not to point out the obvious or anything, but you're not leaving
>>them on their own for days in a row are you?
>Yes I am.
>> There's someone else there to look after them??
>No
Listen, I realise that this is your first pet, and I hope you don't
think I'm having a go at you, but leaving them on their own (even with
each other) for days in a row really isn't good for them at all. I know
that cat are known for being independent, but kittens do need a *lot* of
care, attention and human contact. Litter trays should also be cleaned
out at least once a day. Seriously now, it's illegal to leave animals
unattended for that amount of time - people have been banned from having
animals for the same thing. I'm not trying to scare you, I'm just trying
to give you some helpful advice.
>> I'm also a bit concerned that you got them at 1 month old (I may
>>have misunderstood, but this seems to be what you are saying).
>Yes. Their owner wanted to get rid of them asap.
Well that was extremely irresponsible of them. I know that's not your
fault, and I'm glad that they've gone to an obviously very loving home,
but if this person is getting rid of kittens at four weeks, then they
just shouldn't allow their cat to have kittens.
>> Looks like you're in the States,
>Yep. As I said, it was either me, or the Humane Society for
>them.
>Thanks for your help.
And as I said, I'm not having a go at you, I just want to try and help
you and your kittens get the best from each other.

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BSJM - 26 Feb 2005 05:51 GMT
Hi there!
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcbo
> http://tinypic.com/1tvcqu
They are absolute darlings!
> I'm frequently away from home for days in a row, but they
> dont seem to mind (no crapping on the bed, no destroying of
> stuff, etc). Is it because they have each other and dont get bored?
Our cat does OK when left alone for a few days, but a relative checks on her
daily to make sure all is well and clean the litter box. Our cat also has
a large automatic feeder, as you do.
> I havent taken them to the vet yet, and I hate the idea of having
> them neutered--I'm thinking of only neutering the female. Is this
> a good idea?
No. Not if you want to keep the cats (believe me, if they start to spray,
you'll be thinking long and hard about keeping them). Aside from the health
risks of not neutering your cat, cats are MUCH more likely to start
"spraying" if they are not neutered. My vet suggested neutering by 6 months
at the latest, but earlier than that is better. Once a cat starts spraying
urine (to mark his territory) it is extremely difficult to get him to stop
this behavior, and it is extremely difficult (if not imposiible) to get rid
of the stench. I went through this twice... once with a college roomate's
cat (he didn't stop spraying once he was neutered, and we never got rid of
the smell), and once with a cat of mine when he decided to sparay on new
cement in our basement. Yuck.
http://www.pets.ca/pettips/tips-47.htm
http://www.kittenrescue.org/spayneuter.htm
So, get them spayed and neutered and shots ASAP.
> I also plan to let them out when they grow up because I want them
> to be free to roam and happy.
Our cat is much happier in the house than the black cat with white paws who
was smushed on the road in front of my house awhile ago (we called him White
Sox and gave him treats when he came by). Or the neighbor's puppy who was
abducted by an owl or hawk (luckily it was tied up and only sustained minor
injuries when the bird dropped it)
> Any pointers, suggestions?
http://www.anticruelty.org/pet_info/pet_info_cat_catkitten_care.html
Enjoy the kitties! After having cats as pets, I know I will never be
without them. : )
Good luck and enjoy!
Shelly
> Thanks a lot!
chrisoakey@msn.com - 27 Feb 2005 08:38 GMT
If near a road, dont let them out, they dont have much road sense at
all. When mine were older, they went out during the day but not at
night, at night they tend to wander off.