Hi Folks,
I've come to keeping my cats' "Litter Shed" outside my apartment... on
a balcony.
Our weather is pretty cold now, and I can certainly understand why
this kitty prefers a warmer place than a balcony to relieve himself.
Sadly, he NEEDS' to understand that he really has no choice... that
pissing in my laundry could eventually be fatal.
How can I discourage my kitty from using my laundry baskets; potted
rubber plants; and deep corners in a closet, to piss in???
Thanks for any advice that can help,
Paul
Gee - 31 Jan 2005 18:32 GMT
> Hi Folks,
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Paul, you said you understand WHY he doesn't want to go outside, so you have
answered your own question really. How would you feel if you had to go on
the freezing balcony and expose your privates and do a wee there? The same
reason. Cats love heat, HATE cold, and HATE water, wind and snow. They also
walk around BARE feet, so just imagine how you would feel to step outside
bare feet on the freezing balcony. NOT a very incentive like idea!
Since you are the one who has decided to adopt a cat, you should be the one
to make some amendments as well, not big ones, but small ones that will help
you both be happy. Out of your love for him, I don't see why you couldn't
just bring in the litter tray indoors until the springtime? He is very clear
at telling you he doesn't WANT to do it outside when its cold. He has
adopted enough to your way of life.Can you do this much for him? What is the
big deal? Girlfriend?Guests? Well f#'k them. HE is your baby, and this is
HIS house, so if they don't like it THEY can leave. That is my view, and
people can understand it trust me.I don't complain if my friends human baby
stinks up the house when she poops. So she cant complain when my baby does.
Its the same thing.
But if you are really that kind of a person to force a cat outside on a
freezing cold, at least buy him an enclosed litter tray, or enclose your
balcony, so its not so freezing as to make a cat not want to go there! I
know I would do that much for my cat - instead of thinking about putting him
down!Pls don't do that! If you don't want him, pls give him to local
shelter.He is NOT a bad cat. He just needs a little bit of understanding.
Putting him down cos YOU will not provide him (for whateva reason!)with a
suitable home, is NOT his fault but would be yours and on your
conscience.Could you really live with it? If you cant provide him with a
suitable home, then pls give him to somebody who can. I am not trying to be
mean to you Paul, I just put my babies first and think everybody should.
Paul Bruneau - 31 Jan 2005 18:49 GMT
Hi Gee,
Thanks for reading my note, but you should be assured that I'm not
gonna "shoot" him without exploring any other alternatives that I can
find.
I just don't want to be living in HIS toilet. So... an enclosed litter
box on the balcony is going to be something he needs to learn to use.
Incidentally, I understand about the bare feet and that its way too
cold outside for me.... but this guy loves to be out on the balcony
watching all the pretty lights going up and down the street. He
actually whines to be let outside several times a day and STAYS out
there for 20 and 30 minute periods. His choice too, I leave the door
open until he comes back in.
He's just come to a conclusion that its a lot more comfy in a laundry
basket than it is on the balcony. He must think its OK with me because
I don't beat hell out of him.
There must be a way to "talk" cat and get the right idea across to
him.
Thanks again, Gee
Paul
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>suitable home, then pls give him to somebody who can. I am not trying to be
>mean to you Paul, I just put my babies first and think everybody should.
agent smith - 31 Jan 2005 19:50 GMT
while i can understand why you wouldnt want the litter box inside... have
you ever thought about moving the litter box to the bathroom? also, invest
in a cheap water gun! whenever you see him going where you dont want, SOAK
HIM! and i mean LAY into him! squirt until theres no more water, then reload
and squirt more (but dont let him outside wet). eventually, he'll get the
idea. thats how i trained my cats, and they NEVER go where theyre not
supposed to go. if they do, i just reach for the drawer that has the gun and
they scatter.
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Brigitte - 02 Feb 2005 05:32 GMT
> > Hi Folks,
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> suitable home, then pls give him to somebody who can. I am not trying to be
> mean to you Paul, I just put my babies first and think everybody should.
Is the cat able to get outside through a cat door whenever he wishes? Or
are you letting the cat out when you think it's time?
Brigitte
MaryL - 31 Jan 2005 21:49 GMT
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I think the obvious solution is to keep a litter box indoors. There is
bound to be a place where one could be kept, even in the smallest of
apartments. For example, when I was a student I pulled a dresser far enough
out from a side wall for a litter box to fit. The cat that I had at that
time had some UTI and diarrhea problems. So, I asked a friend to build an
enclosure with a sturdy base and sides high enough on 3 sides that my cat
would hit that even if he missed the litter box (and not hit the wall or
carpet. The front was made just slightly higher than the litter box, and
there were a few inches of space all around so the litter box was not in
"tight" quarters. I then coated the whole thing several times with
polyurethane (make sure it is safe for cats), which made the box waterproof.
That worked beautifully.
Place the laundry basket in a closet or cover it for awhile because your cat
is already used to getting in it. It will be easier to break him of the
habit by making the laundry basket inaccessible than to try to keep a
constant lookout. You could try place some decorative rocks in the potted
plants to discourage using the plants as litter boxes. It might also be a
good idea to locate some Feliway diffusers in your house or apartment for
awhile. Feliway is used for behavior modification and can be very useful in
reducing stress. It is available in plug-in diffusers (with refills
available) and as a spray. The spray is excellent for an occasional use,
such as spraying the carrier about 20 minutes before you take your cat to
the vet, but the plug-in diffuser is better for long-term use because it
releases premeasured doses. Refills can be purchased for the dispenser. One
bottle lasts a little more than a month. Here is a link to a study done by
The Ohio State University that describes the general process:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/11/001129074611.htm
MaryL
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dinkmeister - 01 Feb 2005 02:49 GMT
my cat will piss on something if his litterbox isn't changed every day,
so it might be a good idea to toss a second one in the house somewhere
like next to a toilet
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BC - 01 Feb 2005 09:20 GMT
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've come to keeping my cats' "Litter Shed" outside my apartment... on
> a balcony.
Where was it before? How long has it been outside? Has he ever used it
in this location?
> Our weather is pretty cold now, and I can certainly understand why
> this kitty prefers a warmer place than a balcony to relieve himself.
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>
> Paul

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Paul Bruneau - 01 Feb 2005 16:25 GMT
Thanks for the help folks, everything said makes sense.
So.. I'll put covers over everything he "might" be using, and give him
easier acccess to a nice, clean, enclosed crapper... on the balcony.
Thanks again
agent smith - 02 Feb 2005 10:17 GMT
squirt gun man... squirt gun!
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Judy - 05 Feb 2005 00:10 GMT
> Thanks for the help folks, everything said makes sense.
>
> So.. I'll put covers over everything he "might" be using, and give him
> easier acccess to a nice, clean, enclosed crapper... on the balcony.
>
> Thanks again
Just curious, why not provide him with an indoor litter box?
Adam Helberg - 03 Feb 2005 06:49 GMT
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Easy. Put a litter box inside.
Adam