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Introducing my indoor cat outdoors.

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Russ  Adams - 09 Jan 2005 13:44 GMT
I realize, from reading online, that is not very popular right now to
keep your cat outdoors, but I have a weird living situation.  I live in
a one room barn.  The exit to my room is, in fact, the exit to the
building.  When I leave my room, my cat will invariable try and follow
me.

She is approximately 1 year old and has very little outdoor experience
(if any, I adopted her last month).  I think that it would be best if
she were able to live indoors and outdoors in this situation.  However,
I need to be able to ensure that she doesn't run off when I'm not
supervising.  She is a kitten, and I don't know how much she actually
understands where the food comes from.  Does anyone have any
recommendations as to how I can safeguard my cat? (particularly against
running off).
Doug Kanter - 09 Jan 2005 14:04 GMT
>I realize, from reading online, that is not very popular right now to
> keep your cat outdoors, but I have a weird living situation.  I live in
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> recommendations as to how I can safeguard my cat? (particularly against
> running off).

You really can't stop her from running if she decides to. If you have snow
on the ground, I'd either supervise her closely, or don't let her out until
spring. My 4 yr old newly adopted cat flew out the door last week and hasn't
been seen since. One theory is that he's alive and well, but pissed off
because he can't smell his way home due to the snow that's fallen since he
left.
Russ  Adams - 09 Jan 2005 14:37 GMT
Well, it doesn't really snow here that often (if ever).  I just moved
back in, and she's never been here before.
Gee - 09 Jan 2005 15:46 GMT
"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1SaEd.3133

> You really can't stop her from running if she decides to. If you have snow
> on the ground, I'd either supervise her closely, or don't let her out until
> spring. My 4 yr old newly adopted cat flew out the door last week and hasn't
> been seen since. One theory is that he's alive and well, but pissed off
> because he can't smell his way home due to the snow that's fallen since he
> left.

I'm sorry about your loss.I can imagine you are beside yourself with worry.

The reasons its not coming back "home" is not because it can;t smell itsway
back,but because it hasn;t had a chance to accept your home as her home
yet.Every new cat must be kept indoors for at least 2 weeks in order to
accept is as his/hers territory. Cats are extremely territorial animals.
They are also able to walk for miles to get back to their previous "home".I
don't know how, but they do. So lil snow will not make any difference.

She will be alive,as cats are intelligent and highly adoptable and will
either go back toprevious "home" or willfind a new home in area. Try putting
strong smelling foods such as fish outside for a while. Entice her back.
Even if she is gone, you might save a life of another starving animal in
cold winter.

I hope she is around.
Best wishes
Gee
Doug Kanter - 10 Jan 2005 04:51 GMT
> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1SaEd.3133
>
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> Even if she is gone, you might save a life of another starving animal in
> cold winter.

Actually, I tried leaving out some food last night. It attracted a rather
large skunk, but that's OK. Meanwhile, I'm stopping by the cat's old home a
couple of times a day.
Gee - 10 Jan 2005 13:24 GMT
"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BRnEd.3231

> Actually, I tried leaving out some food last night. It attracted a rather
> large skunk, but that's OK.

LOL :) Pepe le Pew is in the house :) I think skuns are absolutely gorgeous
! And leaving the food was really great, it may even adopt you now :)

>Meanwhile, I'm stopping by the cat's old home a couple of times a day.

That's a brilliant idea. Perhaps you could actually speak to the house
tenants and beg them to let you know if they notice the cat.She may go
inside and they might shoosh her out. Perhaps they could catch her for
you.Maybe offer a small reward if they are uncooperative :(

I really hope you find her. If only animals understood we only mean well...
Gee - 09 Jan 2005 15:38 GMT
> I realize, from reading online, that is not very popular right now to
> keep your cat outdoors, but I have a weird living situation.  I live in
> a one room barn.  ...  Does anyone have any
> recommendations as to how I can safeguard my cat? (particularly against
> running off).

Yes.

When my kitten QT got run over in front of my eyes 5 yrs ago, I introduced
no going out free rule, but also going on a cat-harness and leash rule,
which proved to be excellent for cats, and some of my neighbours thinking
I'm mad :) I don't care what neighbours think, as my cats mean to me more
then anything, so yeah, went to pet shop, bought 5 cat-harnesses and 5 long
dog retractable leashes and Bob's your uncle. Cos I'm on ground floor They
go out through window and I hook them up so I  don't even have to supervise
all the time. They get their 6 meter lil run of the garden and are more then
happy and so am I. Its a safe option.

Your kitten will of course NOT like the harness and will whinge about it
like they do about the collars first time you put it on them, but I did it
cold turkey like with a cat collar: Put the harness on, loosely, and just
leave it on until the cat is considering it part of her everyday thing. Then
start walking her like a lil dog outside and introduce her to the area, cos
at the end of the day,she may be a clever girl,and might wiggle out of it
one day :) Do this in any case even if you decide later to let her out
harness free.

Make sure you get a cat,and not a rabbit harness. They are different.Cat one
should contain 3 straps and they come in different sizes, so you may need to
get her bigger one when grown. Pets at home in UK do wonderful ones, in
various colours and lengths.

Finally although this sounds like a quality time spent together, do not
expect her to walk on a leash like a dog, cos cats rebel to any pulls.
really, let her sniff around and enjoy outdoors safely, but for any
exercise, you will need a dog :)

Do not get nylon ones that are round and thin like a rope, they can be
dangerous and can hurt/cut them, nor this shape:
http://www.morrco.com/fig8cathar.html. Its always better to have the pulling
point on the back then neck.You don't wanna strangle your cat when you pull.

Get the thicker, flat ones,in letter H form,  preferably not nylon ones

These are kind of OK for a short term use
http://www.morrco.com/hstylcathar.html but again its nylon so inflexible

These are what you want:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=2966&Bc=1&N=2002+113520

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=94036&catid=71747&trx=PLST-0-CAT&
trxp1=71747&trxp2=94036&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-CAT


and

http://www.ultimateanimals.co.uk/acatalog/cat_collars_cat_leads_cat_harness_cat_
ID_tags.html

Reflective one

For the world of me I cannot find the pic of the ones that I am using.
Basically it looks like a rope, but its flat and about 1cm wide, very strong
but a tad more flexible then http://www.morrco.com/hstylcathar.html . pets
at home in UK stores them,a nd lots of pet shops.

Make sore middle strap that connects head and back strap is long enough and
doesn't pull the head up.

http://cats.about.com/library/howto/htwalkleash.htm
for more details on how to train.

Best wishes
Margaret - 15 Jan 2005 10:38 GMT
> I realize, from reading online, that is not very popular right now to
> keep your cat outdoors, but I have a weird living situation.  I live in
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> recommendations as to how I can safeguard my cat? (particularly against
> running off).

I'd begin by putting in a cat door. If possible, one that you can set to let
her come in but not go out. Then if she ever does get left outside and you
aren't there to let her in, she can come in the cat door. I'd leave plenty
of food just inside the cat door at all times. (There are cat doors that can
somehow be set not to let in other cats or raccoons etc.)

Well, actually, I'd begin by getting her a microchip ID, just in case. :)
And make her an elastic collar with my phone number on it.

My neighbor got a young cat who had not been outside. He built a cat door in
a window about 6 feet above ground, with a platform where she could sit and
look around. This let her get used to the outside world while feeling safe,
not likely to make a dash and get lost.

Gee's idea of a harness and leash might be good for a while too. Just watch
very carefully that she doesn't get tangled up; cats can get strangled.

And/or you could make a little cat run out of tall chicken wire, and/or a
little fenced area where dogs and other animals couldn't get in.

All these things would help her get familiar with the outdoor area, so she'd
be less likely to get upset and run too far. Once she's used to the place,
she could come and go freely. Even then, when you leave, I'd put her back in
the house and close the human door, so she doesn't follow you away. If you
want her outside while you're gone, she can use the cat door to come back
out.

Btw you might check with your vet about any extra vaccinations she might
need.

Margaret
 
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