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How do I stop cat from bringing mice in the house?

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Peter - 20 Dec 2004 12:12 GMT
Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
?
Ivor Jones - 20 Dec 2004 13:41 GMT
> Any ideas besides
> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm ?

That's amazing..! Must build one..!!

Ivor
Ashley - 20 Dec 2004 19:31 GMT
>> Any ideas besides
>> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm ?
>
> That's amazing..! Must build one..!!

It is incredible, isn't it? I reckon if the people who built that can get a
compact, commercial prototype made they could end up with something more
than a little saleable ...
Ivor Jones - 20 Dec 2004 20:13 GMT
>>> Any ideas besides
>>> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm ?
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> can get a compact, commercial prototype made they could end up with
> something more than a little saleable ...

I was just thinking that, maybe we should email him to see if he's thought
of marketing it. I'd buy one..!!

Ivor
Peter - 21 Dec 2004 08:06 GMT
> > Any ideas besides
> > http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm ?
>
> That's amazing..! Must build one..!!

Yeah, I'm considering the same. Biggest concern is bulky box right in front
of the door. It will have to be removable so I can carry big stuff in & out
of basement.

Then there's fairly complicated piece of software to write that will have to
analyze images... I don't  think Quantum Pictures will want to release their
code to public.

Peter
Victor Martinez - 20 Dec 2004 13:47 GMT
> Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm

How about keeping your cat indoors?

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Ivor Jones - 20 Dec 2004 14:22 GMT
>> Any ideas besides
>> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
>
> How about keeping your cat indoors?

Not always an option. IMHO it's cruel to keep a cat permanently indoors,
how would you like it if it were you..?

I'm not intending to start the outdoor/indoor argument again but I would
never have a cat if I were forced to keep it indoors.

Ivor
Victor Martinez - 21 Dec 2004 01:29 GMT
> Not always an option. IMHO it's cruel to keep a cat permanently indoors,
> how would you like it if it were you..?

It's not cruel if you know what you're doing. Indoor only cats live
longer and healthier lives.

> I'm not intending to start the outdoor/indoor argument again but I would
> never have a cat if I were forced to keep it indoors.

And I would never expose my cats to the dangers of the outdoors.

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BC - 21 Dec 2004 15:26 GMT
>> Not always an option. IMHO it's cruel to keep a cat permanently
>> indoors, how would you like it if it were you..?
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>
> And I would never expose my cats to the dangers of the outdoors.

It depends where you live as to whether it is safe to let your cat
outdoors.  In England everyone does it and the majority live till their
teens many til there late teens and older.  If you live in a city it may
well be dangerous but the majority of the english will not keep cats if
they live in such areas.  So the indoor cat rarely occurs here because
the need never arrises.

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Ivor Jones - 22 Dec 2004 00:21 GMT
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>> And I would never expose my cats to the dangers of the outdoors.
>>
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> not keep cats if they live in such areas.  So the indoor cat rarely
> occurs here because the need never arrises.

I have a friend who adopted a beautiful long haired ginger gentleman from
our Cats Protection shelter. He is FIV+ and so it was reluctantly decided
he should not be allowed out. This is the *only* situation in which I
would consider confining a cat indoors, bacause otherwise he would never
have been adopted.

Ivor
Scott Buchanan - 22 Dec 2004 01:18 GMT
They may live longer but they have behavioral problems if kept in doors.

> > Not always an option. IMHO it's cruel to keep a cat permanently indoors,
> > how would you like it if it were you..?
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Victor Martinez - 28 Dec 2004 23:52 GMT
> They may live longer but they have behavioral problems if kept in doors.

Really? Is that your expert opinion based on years of research and study
on the subject of animal behavior?
Somebody should tell my cats they are supposed to have behavioral
problems...

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Peter - 21 Dec 2004 07:34 GMT
> > Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
>
> How about keeping your cat indoors?

I've tried that. After a week they would start going thru cracks in windows.

Seriously, I think it's cruel & unhealthy to force cats live indoors. I live
in a rural area with very little automotive traffic, and no known predators
(unless you count in rabbits). Our cats do not get fat despite having all
the food they want. Pretty much only concerns are parasites (have to give
them Drontal every 1-2 months), and occasionally bruised paws.

Once they bought home a rabid mouse which bit my wife while sleeping. Now
our family is immune to rabies ;)

Peter
Gary Stone - 21 Dec 2004 08:38 GMT
Peter, Making one for a cat door that goes through a 6 or 8 inch wall would
give you some room to work with and allow for more convenient placement of
box. Then there's always the downsizing of the electronics. Lot of work, I
know, but you're on to something. I'd patient yours now if I were you.

Stone

>> > Any ideas besides
> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
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>
> Peter
mlbriggs - 22 Dec 2004 00:12 GMT
>> Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
>
> How about keeping your cat indoors?

That is the best solution!!!MLB
BC - 20 Dec 2004 19:36 GMT
> Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
> ?

WOW!!!!!!  That is one amazing invention!!!!

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Ivor Jones - 20 Dec 2004 20:13 GMT
>> Any ideas besides
>> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm ?
>>
> WOW!!!!!!  That is one amazing invention!!!!

Now all we need to do it get him to market it..!

Ivor
Scott Buchanan - 22 Dec 2004 01:23 GMT
Don't use a cat door. You can see if he has anything before letting him in.

> Any ideas besides http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
> ?
Peter - 22 Dec 2004 11:53 GMT
> > Any ideas besides
> http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
> > ?

> Don't use a cat door. You can see if he has anything before letting him in.

Can't let them in during night, and when we're gone (sometimes for days).

I guess I could hire a kitty-sitter so someone could monitor what those
felines bring in, but am not sure I can afford it ;)

Peter
Scott Buchanan - 24 Dec 2004 01:44 GMT
Why can you not let them in at night?

> > > Any ideas besides
> > http://www.quantumpicture.com/Flo_Control/flo_control.htm
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>
> Peter
Peter - 24 Dec 2004 04:59 GMT
I'm sleeping and can't hear them meowing outside the door!

> Why can you not let them in at night?
>
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> > I guess I could hire a kitty-sitter so someone could monitor what those
> > felines bring in, but am not sure I can afford it ;)
Zythophile - 26 Dec 2004 17:11 GMT
> I'm sleeping and can't hear them meowing outside the door!
>
>> Why can you not let them in at night?

When I want my cats to come in for the night, I  knock a fork against a tin
of cat food at about 1800. I then feed them indoors and they stay indoors
for the rest of the evening (I put them "to bed" in the shed, before I
retire). However, they are outside from about 0700.

I don't now your situation, but would this approach work for you?
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Zythophile - 26 Dec 2004 17:18 GMT
>> I'm sleeping and can't hear them meowing outside the door!
>>
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>
> I don't now your situation, but would this approach work for you?
Sorry, I should have read your post better. You leave the cats to fend for
themselves when you're away - in your words, "sometimes for days". I don't
do this. I always get some-one to cat-sit (normally a mate whom I can pay in
beer) or put them in a cattery.  Could one of your neighbours feed them when
you're away and let them into your garden shed or garage at night?
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Peter - 27 Dec 2004 08:06 GMT
> >> I'm sleeping and can't hear them meowing outside the door!
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> beer) or put them in a cattery.  Could one of your neighbours feed them when
> you're away and let them into your garden shed or garage at night?

Well, I'll give it some thought. We have a relative coming whenever we're
away to top up dishes with fresh cat food, so it's not like cats are left
entirely to themselves.

If we had a cat door that we could lock so they can't get out, but can get
in - that would be a solution. The door would have to have a clock, though,
so it locks itself every night.

Peter
Margaret - 15 Jan 2005 11:18 GMT
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> If we had a cat door that we could lock so they can't get out, but can get
> in - that would be a solution.

That shouldn't be hard to make. We made one long ago, tho I don't remember
the details. The door had some sort of latch that would prevent it being
opened from inside when the latch was set.

> The door would have to have a clock, though,  so it locks itself every
night.

That might be a little harder, but there are so many automatic timing
devices available these days. Just about anything can be plugged into them.
What about a door held closed by an electromagnet plugged into the timer?

Or what about combining a door with some person coming in, who could open it
for them every morning?

Margaret
 
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