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Justin - 07 Dec 2004 06:11 GMT
Hi all,

I just got a kitten last week, and I need to bring him to the vet tomorrow.

They told me to bring a stool sample. How I am supposed to bring it there?
(it is poop right?)

In a baggie or something?

Seems kinda gross for some reason.

I know this is a dumb question, but oh well.
Thanks

Justin
Diana - 07 Dec 2004 16:29 GMT
Justin at leejustice2@hotmail.dotcom wrote on12/7/04 1:11 AM:

> Hi all,
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> Justin

Get used to it, Justin -- you'll have cat poop to deal with from now on <g>!
Get a little piece of it out of the litter box when it's as fresh as you can
get it, and put it in a plastic bag.  If you have to save it overnight, put
it in the fridge.  (Yeah, I know.  Double bag it to be sure it won't smell
things up.)

Congratulations on the new kitten.  May you bring each other much happiness!

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Justin - 07 Dec 2004 21:29 GMT
> Justin at leejustice2@hotmail.dotcom wrote on12/7/04 1:11 AM:
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> it in the fridge.  (Yeah, I know.  Double bag it to be sure it won't smell
> things up.)

hehe, I am slowly getting used to it. I am actually quite proud of myself
for being able to clean out the litter box on a daily basis without gagging!

I guess what I ended up bringing in worked good enough, he tested negative
for any parasites.

Sorry for the dumb question, I just didn't know what to do.

> Congratulations on the new kitten.  May you bring each other much
> happiness!

Thanks! He has been very fun and entertaining so far. I haven't laughed this
much in a long time.

Justin
mlbriggs - 08 Dec 2004 00:36 GMT
>> Justin at leejustice2@hotmail.dotcom wrote on12/7/04 1:11 AM:
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> Justin

FYI -- If you feed your kitten a good quality food, cleaning the litter
box won't be so bad.  In fact when I fed Princess (RB16) Science Diet,
there was hardly any smell at all.  I feed TuTu (7) Iams lowcall with
hairball care and there is some odor, but usually not that bad.  If she
has a good diet her stools should be formed and not runny.  Don't give her
milk.  MLB
Justin - 08 Dec 2004 03:27 GMT
>>> Justin at leejustice2@hotmail.dotcom wrote on12/7/04 1:11 AM:
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> has a good diet her stools should be formed and not runny.  Don't give her
> milk.  MLB

It has been a lot less painful that I imagined. I have this litter that
clumps up, and you can just flush away!

That's another thing, trying to figure out what good quality food is.
Right now I am feeding him Eukanuba dry food, is this considered a good
quality food?
I was thinking about switching to something else, but I have read you should
feed them the same brand of food for the 1st year.
I am not sure how true this is.

Is milk really bad for cats? I haven't given him any yet, but I remember my
cat when I was younger loved milk.

Justin
Kiwi Gill - 08 Dec 2004 04:04 GMT
"Justin" wrote >
> Is milk really bad for cats? I haven't given him any yet, but I remember my
> cat when I was younger loved milk.

Hi, can't comment on what a veterinarian would say about milk, but I have
two cats - one 14, one 10, and although the 14 year old could always drink
milk without any problems, I stopped all milk when we got the second cat as
he was lactose-intolerant, and it led to very runny poos.

For a while I was buying special "cat milk" - don't know if it's still on
the market. These days they just have plenty of fresh water available -
that's natural after all.
Ashley - 08 Dec 2004 04:55 GMT
> "Justin" wrote >
>> Is milk really bad for cats? I haven't given him any yet, but I remember
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> as
> he was lactose-intolerant, and it led to very runny poos.

My reading suggests cats are like humans in this respect - some are lactose
intolerant, some aren't.

> For a while I was buying special "cat milk" - don't know if it's still on
> the market. These days they just have plenty of fresh water available -
> that's natural after all.

It's certainly available in New Zealand - and through supermarkets. My cats
get a small carton between them every fortnight, which means they get about
3 bowls of milk a fortnight each. They absolutely love it. And the advantage
of this, if you're feeding dry food, is that if my two are anything to go
by, they will drink more liquid if there is milk available, because they
love the flavour.
Kiwi Gill - 08 Dec 2004 08:28 GMT
"Ashley" wrote >

> It's certainly available in New Zealand - and through supermarkets. My cats
> get a small carton between them every fortnight, which means they get about
> 3 bowls of milk a fortnight each. They absolutely love it. And the advantage
> of this, if you're feeding dry food, is that if my two are anything to go
> by, they will drink more liquid if there is milk available, because they
> love the flavour.

It's funny, when you stop buying something you forget all about it and don't
even notice if it's still available. Maybe I'll buy a carton occasionally -
thanks. And hello, fellow Kiwi :-)
Ashley - 08 Dec 2004 09:07 GMT
> It's funny, when you stop buying something you forget all about it and
> don't
> even notice if it's still available. Maybe I'll buy a carton
> occasionally -
> thanks. And hello, fellow Kiwi :-)

We're everywhere. Have you noticed? ;-)

But a word of warning. One of the supermarket brands has added sugar in it
(like cats really need sugar). I believe it's the Whiskas brand. The cheaper
VitaPet brand doesn't have added sugar. Guess which one my cats get.
DL Farnworth - 09 Dec 2004 18:57 GMT
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{...}
| It has been a lot less painful that I imagined. I have this litter that
| clumps up, and you can just flush away!
{...}

Ackk!

If this is really a clumping litter, the clumping
action is water-activated.

As in, water in the plumbing makes it clump and stick
to whatever it's next to, i.e.  your plumbing.

Really, I'm surprised that Roto-Rooter doesn't give
bags of the stuff away for free .

We save the plastic bags from the grocery to use as
handy receptacles for our "clumps".  I'm not sure it's
as environmentally friendly as recycling but it saves
on buying new plastic bags.
Philip Doolittle - 10 Dec 2004 02:02 GMT
I agree about Roto-rooter giving it away.  If you ever want to see what
clumping litter is all about, dump a pan out in the woods behind your house.
In about a week, you will have a gooey mess that resembles a large blob of
modeling clay with a little bit too much water.  And yes, it sticks to
EVERYTHING.  In about a year, check it again.  It will not have changed.
Several years later, check again.  Guess what you will find...  Yep, same
gooey mess.

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> as environmentally friendly as recycling but it saves
> on buying new plastic bags.
Doug Kanter - 11 Dec 2004 15:35 GMT
> That's another thing, trying to figure out what good quality food is.
> Right now I am feeding him Eukanuba dry food, is this considered a good
> quality food?
> I was thinking about switching to something else, but I have read you should
> feed them the same brand of food for the 1st year.
> I am not sure how true this is.

With some guidance from your vet, try difference brands/flavors. But, you
might end up with a cat like my son's, who will only eat Purina dry food -
the basic flavor that's been around forever. We tried every flavor of dry &
canned food in the store, mostly out of concern for her boredom with food.
It was all a waste. She only eats the one flavor. She's a cheap date!

She won't drink milk, although she'll demand a little cheese if she sees
someone handling it. By "a little", if she's given a whole slice of American
cheese, she'll eat a 2"x2" chunk and leave the rest. So now, she gets a
chunk that size and doesn't want more. Sometimes, she does NOT yell for
cheese. The vet suspects she has a skill that humans would love to have:
Perfect knowledge of what she needs in her diet. If someone's opening a can
of tuna (for people), she'll express an interest, and eat perhaps a
teaspoon, but no more. Same with turkey or chicken (carefully checked for
bones).

Because she's outrageously healthy, and outdoors 50% of the time, the vet
says she's probably getting plenty of other snacks outside. I've seen her
gobble up large moths during warm weather.

By the way, my opinion is that dry food helps develop nice sharp teeth. This
helps the cat win the wrestling matches you should be sponsoring on a
regular basis.
Justin - 11 Dec 2004 17:13 GMT
>> That's another thing, trying to figure out what good quality food is.
>> Right now I am feeding him Eukanuba dry food, is this considered a good
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> helps the cat win the wrestling matches you should be sponsoring on a
> regular basis.

Thanks for the advice. I have heard the main danger of an only dry food
diet, is that they don't get enough water.

Would this be correct, and if I got him to drink  lot of water, he should be
ok?

Justin
Doug Kanter - 11 Dec 2004 23:35 GMT
> >> That's another thing, trying to figure out what good quality food is.
> >> Right now I am feeding him Eukanuba dry food, is this considered a good
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>
> Justin

You can't really get a cat to drink, or do much of anything else unless it's
the cat's choice. Remember: This is not a dog. This is the reason some
people prefer dogs to cats. They have a sick need to control a living thing,
and dogs, being intensely stupid, are just the thing for such people. Cats,
on the other hand, are for people who want to live with a creature that's
more of an equal, and in many cases, a superior being.

What you *can* do is buy a bunch of NON-PLASTIC bowls just for the cat, so
if you're running out the door to work, notice the water bowl's a bit dusty,
and don't have time to wash it, you'll always have a clean one ready to fill
up. I say "non plastic" because it's just a foible of mine, and you can buy
ceramics like Corelle for about the price of plastic.

I can't speak to the issue of water needs as related to dry food. My cat
always drank a lot. One thing to watch, though: As male cats age, they can
develop urinary tract problems. If I recall, they get stones, just like
people. My 2nd cat died from complications of that condition. In the last
year of his life, the vet had me switch to low-ash cat food. He said that
since we can't make cats drink, the best we can do is address the reasons
why they SHOULD drink more, and that means better food. Read the labels on
the dry foods in particular. It's been many years since I had a male cat, so
I'm not up on the ingredients. Maybe all the major brands of dry food are
low in ash now. Or not. Ask the vet, and maybe some people here can shed
some light on the issue.
Doug Kanter - 11 Dec 2004 15:23 GMT
> hehe, I am slowly getting used to it. I am actually quite proud of myself
> for being able to clean out the litter box on a daily basis without gagging!

Ha! Wait till you have to change a baby's diaper, at a moment when you were
already feeling nauseous for some other reason. Or, when your sick child is
draped in your arms with a fever, and vomits down the back of your shirt.

Cats are a walk in the park compared to those things.
Justin - 11 Dec 2004 17:14 GMT
>> hehe, I am slowly getting used to it. I am actually quite proud of myself
>> for being able to clean out the litter box on a daily basis without
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> Cats are a walk in the park compared to those things.

heh, yes I know.

Justin
 
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