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Gary Stone - 05 Dec 2004 03:31 GMT
I've had my cats for 4 months now. Got them from Humane Society shelter.
Never had pets before and I'm an old fart at 54, always enough wild animals
to interact with out here in the forest.  I live in Huron National Forest on
a lake. I must say, I am surprised at how fast you can get attached to them.
I never knew they could have so many facial expressions and a multitude of
communication techniques.  I was recently sicker than hell and they pretty
much cut me a lot of slack as far as letting me sleep and getting dinner a
bit late. I have MS and they seem to know when I am going to have a rough
time of it. One, Emily, will just start to let out a meow that sounds like
WOOOOOW! and stop when I lay down and she will curl up next to me.

I remember when I first brought them home. They took one look out the
windows and saw nothing but forest and the lake, they seemed to be in
seventh heaven. I kept them inside for a week before allowing them to
venture out on a leash. After another week I let them out on their own. I
fear for their safety as there are critters out here that could snack on
them. So far the Great Northern owl has left them alone. There is also a
pair of eagles on the other side of the lake, The deer seem to be amused by
them and I think Rocky, the raccoon is enamored with Emily as she has a mask
also. They love it when I go hunting with them, they will call me out to go.
I kick up prey by poking a stick in the wood pile and they station
themselves one each end ready to snatch anything that emerges. Luckily they
are both smart enough to leave the porcupines alone. I thought about making
them indoor cats but nixed that idea after having to replace 3 screens. I'm
told some cats just have to be outside when they want, call of the wild is
too strong. I just hope for the best. I've noticed that they never meow
amongst themselves, only to humans. Has anyone else noticed this or do your
cats meow at each other?

Ok, enough rambling.

Stone
Dave - 05 Dec 2004 04:47 GMT
>I've noticed that they never meow
>amongst themselves, only to humans. Has anyone else noticed this or do your
>cats meow at each other?

Our cats don't meow at each other in the same room, but they do call
each other across the house.
mlbriggs - 05 Dec 2004 05:31 GMT
> I've had my cats for 4 months now. Got them from Humane Society shelter.
> Never had pets before and I'm an old fart at 54, always enough wild animals
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>
> Stone

With all that wildlife around, I'd worry a lot.  Even here in the city
Magpies  and Jays attack cats.   Purrs that your MS will go into
remission and stay that way.  MLB
Ashley - 05 Dec 2004 09:40 GMT
> I've had my cats for 4 months now. Got them from Humane Society shelter.

I've noticed that they never meow
> amongst themselves, only to humans. Has anyone else noticed this or do
> your cats meow at each other?

Cats don't meow at each other unless fighting or mating or a few other
specific circumstances. Their meowing to communicate with us is an
adaptation specifically for us. We talk to them, they learn we respond when
they meow and they keep doing it.
FishWife - 05 Dec 2004 14:50 GMT
>I remember when I first brought them home. They took one look out the
>windows and saw nothing but forest and the lake, they seemed to be in
>seventh heaven. I kept them inside for a week before allowing them to
>venture out on a leash. After another week I let them out on their own. I

That sounds beautiful!  Your cats are so lucky!  I know you worry about
them with all the wildlife, but it's better than being cooped up in a
tiny apartment in the city.

>Ok, enough rambling.

Don't be silly - you're not rambling.  It's lovely!
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Gary Stone - 05 Dec 2004 20:14 GMT
Jess looked just like my Emily, same face, gray on top white on bottom.
Nice photos.

Stone

>>I remember when I first brought them home. They took one look out the
>>windows and saw nothing but forest and the lake, they seemed to be in
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> Don't be silly - you're not rambling.  It's lovely!
FishWife - 06 Dec 2004 19:41 GMT
>Jess looked just like my Emily, same face, gray on top white on bottom.
>Nice photos.

Thank you.  She was a beautiful little kitten - died of Acute Renal
Failure at 3 months - it was awful.
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PatC - 06 Dec 2004 10:05 GMT
Hi Stone
I really envy you & your cats environment.
I live in a city (Sydney, Australia)
By the way cats only miaouw when humans are present.
They do not use this communication beteween themselves...... ever.
About the excessive action when stroking our cats:
My cats are already having the advantage treatment, so I have no idea why
they still get this itch thing!
But thank you very much for your input.
Stone I wish I could be in your neck of the woods, I have dreams about that
sort of life.
I grow a few vegies in my back yrad, but when I see a caterpillar I don't
kill it, I just throw it over the fence. ( I have no neighbour, he died 2
years ago & no else has moved in.
I wish I has your freedom, I almost want to kill for it.
P

> I've had my cats for 4 months now. Got them from Humane Society shelter.
> Never had pets before and I'm an old fart at 54, always enough wild animals
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>
> Stone
Gary Stone - 06 Dec 2004 15:08 GMT
I wish I could afford a trip to Australia.  I've always wanted to go there.
I live in Huron National Forest in Michigan, USA. Kind of hard to grow
veggies because of all the shade. I studied the track of the sun this summer
and hired a dozer to come in and clear an area on my vacant land to process
logs I buy for firewood and will attempt to plant a small garden next year.
It will have to be fenced in to keep the deer, rabbits, bears and others out
of it though. The nearest produce market is about 32 miles from here. I love
the peace and quiet along with the fact that you never know what you're
going to see as far as wildlife goes, each time you look or go outside.
Winters are hard but oh so beautiful. Spring time at your local isn't it?

Stone

> Hi Stone
> I really envy you & your cats environment.
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>> Stone
PatC - 07 Dec 2004 11:24 GMT
Hi Gary
Yes is Spring here, had some mother's of hot days. We use Centigrade for
temperature, it was 41c one day last week & the next day was 20c!
No worries here about deer etc., & despite popular belief we don't have roos
hopping around our backyards ( they do in the outer suburbs sometimes).
We only have the occasional Possum that eats the fruit & they just love to
eat folks roses!
Your cats are in seventh heaven & always remember that if they find trouble
that it is a learning experience & they will never repeat the mistake.
After getting stung by a bee they will watch with interest but never try &
eat one again!
How do you manage wih MS (I presume a mild case?) & be so far from the
market? Do you survive on cereals?
Anyway good luck with those sweet friends of yours.
Do you work for the park?
Sorry to be nosy, if you don't want to answer that's OK.
Pat

> I wish I could afford a trip to Australia.  I've always wanted to go there.
> I live in Huron National Forest in Michigan, USA. Kind of hard to grow
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> > Hi Stone
> > I really envy you & your cats environment.
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> >> Stone
Gary Stone - 07 Dec 2004 14:49 GMT
What? No little joeys? No don't work for the park. There are areas set aside
within the forest for privet ownership. I had to stop working because of the
MS so I am on disability retirement. The MS is weird, spent 6? years in a
wheelchair then was able to get out of it. Still many problems though. I
never let it stop me.  I have brothers that come up an do the cutting of the
logs and stack the firewood, I help but do not operate the chain saws and
have to stop every 15 to 20 minutes. I wait till can goods and dry goods go
on sale and then stock up when I go into town.  Brothers bring up coffee and
fruits and veggies when they visit, they live about 3? hours from here. They
buy bulk quantities of a lot of things also. I have two freezers which are
well stocked. There are other cabins near me but they mostly sit vacant.
Their owners come up occasionally for a weekend in the summer and to hunt.
My brothers worry about me being alone here, but they shake their head and
just say "Don't know how you do it." I tell them, look at it this way, I
either picked a good place to retire or a good place to die. As for the
cats, Emily and Gretchen, (shelter names) haven't changed them. I am
surprised at how much company they provide. They have their quirks and
personality traits. Emily will pick up Gretchen's kill when she's done
playing with it and bring it to me as if she got it. It's pretty slick on
her part, after all, it's worth high praise and a belly rub. Gretchen needs
two litter boxes, one for pee and one for poop. If she angers Emily, Emily
will go poop in her pee box and pee in her poop box. Gretchen is a lean mean
hunting machine. She has got to get outside. Comes in before the coyotes
come around though, usually about 8 PM. Then wants out again from 10 PM till
about 11:30 PM  They are starting to spend more time indoors as the temps
plunge. It can get to -18 F here at times and by the time March or April
comes around you start looking forward to the day the temp soars all the way
up to freezing (32 F) I've got to get them some toys that they will actually
play with before the snow gets too deep. I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and toilet
paper core rolls.

Have a good one.

Stone

> Hi Gary
> Yes is Spring here, had some mother's of hot days. We use Centigrade for
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> Sorry to be nosy, if you don't want to answer that's OK.
> Pat
Ashley - 07 Dec 2004 19:44 GMT
I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and toilet
> paper core rolls.

My cats two favourite toys (and they're both outside cats, so get lots of
entertainment climbing trees, chasing butterflies and catching rats) are:1.
A length of rigid packing tape of the kind that is wrapped around cardboard
boxes containing such things as stereos and computers and 2. A sheet of
newspaper.

I've given up buying toys - the cats are much better at deciding what they
enjoy than I am.
Gary Stone - 07 Dec 2004 22:08 GMT
> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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> I've given up buying toys - the cats are much better at deciding what they
> enjoy than I am.

They like things that move and flutter around, I am considering trying one
of those battery operated things that fling a mouse around. That way when
the MS is messing with me I could flip a switch and then go sit down. Don't
know if they would take to it though. Gee, I could have stocked up on $80.00
worth of toilet paper and had plenty of toys for them.

Stone
mlbriggs - 08 Dec 2004 00:27 GMT
>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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>
> Stone

The TP sounds worthwhile.  Then when they got tired of it, some could be
salvaged for other use.

My experience with toys is they look great in the toy box.  MLB
Philip Doolittle - 09 Dec 2004 16:18 GMT
> My experience with toys is they look great in the toy box.  MLB

Yep. Try growing them some catnip in the spring.  Just buy a pack of the
cheapest stuff you can find as it all contains thousands of little black
seeds.  They will love it, and you'll get a big kick out of watching them
play in it.

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mlbriggs - 15 Dec 2004 01:15 GMT
>>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
>>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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> My experience with toys is they look great in the toy box.  MLB

Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
Nan - 15 Dec 2004 14:14 GMT
>Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
>been able to access it for over a week.   MLB

There were 276 postings when I checked this morning, and over 200
yesterday morning.  

Nan
mlbriggs - 15 Dec 2004 16:05 GMT
>>Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
>>been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
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>
> Nan

Thanks.  I got my son on the job and we finally figured out that the
filters were messed up.  The day  does not feel right without my kitty
stories.  MLB
briony - 23 Dec 2004 03:44 GMT
hello,happy new year

> >>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
> >>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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> Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
> been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
briony - 23 Dec 2004 03:56 GMT
lovly!

> >>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
> >>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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> Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
> been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
briony - 23 Dec 2004 03:58 GMT
new year!

> >>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
> >>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
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> Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
> been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
briony - 23 Dec 2004 03:58 GMT
> >>> I've spent about $80.00 on toys so
> >>>> far and it comes down to a piece of twine tied to a stick. That and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Does anyone know is r.p.c.anecdotes is still alive and well?  I have not
> been able to access it for over a week.   MLB
 
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