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StocksRus? - 04 Apr 2004 17:41 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the typical role the male (father) cat plays in
rearing of a kitten if any?

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Magic Mood Jeep? - 04 Apr 2004 19:58 GMT
AFAIK, none.  The lifestyle of the 'tom' cat is love-em-n-leave-em.

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> Can anyone explain to me the typical role the male (father) cat plays in
> rearing of a kitten if any?
StocksRus? - 04 Apr 2004 21:45 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in news:hVYbc.185832
$po.997173@attbi_s52:

What if the Tom and the Mom are in the same home? Still the same?

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Gee - 05 Apr 2004 02:40 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:hVYbc.185832

> AFAIK, none.  The lifestyle of the 'tom' cat is love-em-n-leave-em.

And it will continue to be like this unless CSA steps in :)

Joking aside, female cats often mate with more then one male during the
heat, therefore often producing the litter of interestingly coloured kitties
of suspicious decent :)

I guess unless the father(s) acutaly live in the same house, he will
probably treat them just like any other newcomer in the family, although I
doubt he would hurt them in any way but educational.

Gee
Sherry - 05 Apr 2004 05:42 GMT
>I guess unless the father(s) acutaly live in the same house, he will
>probably treat them just like any other newcomer in the family, although I
>doubt he would hurt them in any way but educational.
>
>Gee

But, some toms will kill kittens. I'd sure be careful about protecting them.
This happened to some barn kittens we had when I was a kid. (OK, that was many,
many moons ago and memory could be serving me wrong :)
Maybe somebody else has some input..

Sherry

Sherry
Arjun Ray - 05 Apr 2004 07:55 GMT
| But, some toms will kill kittens.

I really doubt this.  That is, if it happens, it would be an exception
to prove the rule.  Lions are known to kill cubs (to induce the females
in the pride to come into heat), but their social dynamics are quite
different from that of domestic cats.

On the other hand, I've known cases of toms taking good care of kittens.
Generally, if a tom shows interest (which he may not) then it's probably
with benign intent.
Sherry - 05 Apr 2004 15:29 GMT
>| But, some toms will kill kittens.
>
>I really doubt this.  That is, if it happens, it would be an exception
>to prove the rule.  Lions are known to kill cubs (to induce the females
>in the pride to come into heat), but their social dynamics are quite
>different from that of domestic cats.

That's quite possibly a myth that I just grew up believing. What actually
happened was I found a litter of barn cats when I was a kid, with their heads
eaten off. The explanation at tthe time was, a tom cat would kill any kittens
that he did not father....rather to preserve his genetic line? It does sound
far-fetched.
OTOH, I've heard of *mother* cats who kill their own babies. Which could have
possibly been the case.
Sherry
Gee - 05 Apr 2004 17:37 GMT
"Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote in message
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> That's quite possibly a myth that I just grew up believing. What actually
> happened was I found a litter of barn cats when I was a kid, with their heads
> eaten off. The explanation at tthe time was, a tom cat would kill any kittens
> that he did not father....rather to preserve his genetic line? It does sound
> far-fetched.

Naah, lions do that and for that reason, not domestic cats. Must have been
some other predator. Although very wierd that only heads were eaten not the
bodies. I would assume bodies would have more meat for ani carnivore then a
scull ?!?!

> OTOH, I've heard of *mother* cats who kill their own babies. Which could have
> possibly been the case.

A mother cat could kill its own kittens if the kitten is ill, or has been
tampered with (which is why is advisible not to touch the kittens for a
while after birth cos if it doesnt smell correctly, mother will reject it
and even kill it).
Orchid - 05 Apr 2004 20:38 GMT
>A mother cat could kill its own kittens if the kitten is ill, or has been
>tampered with (which is why is advisible not to touch the kittens for a
>while after birth cos if it doesnt smell correctly, mother will reject it
>and even kill it).

    This is also an old wives' tale -- kittens bred by responsible
breeders are handled very soon after birth (sometimes even while being
born) and are regularly handled while the kittens grow to catch those
all-important early socialisation periods.

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Wendy - 06 Apr 2004 03:00 GMT
> "Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote in message
> news:20040405102950.03308.00000450@mb-
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> bodies. I would assume bodies would have more meat for ani carnivore then a
> scull ?!?!

I had a hampster that bit off the heads of her babies. I never did figure
out why. I came home from school one day looked in the cage and she picked
one up and chomped off the head. She ended up killing all the babies.

> > OTOH, I've heard of *mother* cats who kill their own babies. Which could
> have
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> while after birth cos if it doesnt smell correctly, mother will reject it
> and even kill it).
zuzu22@webtv.net - 06 Apr 2004 04:17 GMT
Sherry wrote on tomcats killing kittens:

>That's quite possibly a myth that I just
>grew up believing.

Nope, it's not a myth. It generally happens with feral, not domestic,
males, and AFAIK the deed is done if the mother is away from the nest.
Apparently mothers will defend their kittens against a tom and drive him
away, but if the kittens are alone then all bets are off. This is not to
say every tom will kill kittens, but it does happen.

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Sollie Z Gotalotovitz - 08 Apr 2004 20:49 GMT
> Sherry wrote on tomcats killing kittens:
>
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> away, but if the kittens are alone then all bets are off. This is not to
> say every tom will kill kittens, but it does happen.

Yes it does indeed happen. My last two much loved cats (Dennis and Golly)
both miraculously survived an attack by a Tom, which left one of them
deposited covered in blood in the neighbours garden (Dennis) and the other
severely injured. Both eventually recovered and became the most affectionate
and loving cats I have ever known.
Gee - 05 Apr 2004 17:31 GMT
"Arjun Ray" <aray@nmds.com.invalid> wrote in message

>  Lions are known to kill cubs (to induce the females
> in the pride to come into heat),

Lion Kings( group leaders) will never kill their own cubs, only cubs of
other fathers. Saying that, once his own cubs grow to adolescent age, and
become a "threat" to the King, he will fight them and kill if nececery, so
most often adolescent male cubs just leave the group.
M.C. Mullen - 05 Apr 2004 07:55 GMT
| Can anyone explain to me the typical role the male (father) cat plays in
| rearing of a kitten if any?
|
| --
| StocksRus?

It varies from tom to tom: Some care for their kittens, some eat them. Most
toms' behaviour lies somewhere in between.

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