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Newbie - 06 May 2008 05:36 GMT
[A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
question.]

Food questions -

By reading around I figured canned is regarded better. So went and
bought some. But...

How many times do you feed a cat?

Where in Chicago area is the best place to buy canned cat food?

I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
"sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.
studio - 06 May 2008 05:56 GMT
> By reading around I figured canned is regarded better. So went and
> bought some. But...

Different people do different things as far as acquiring food for
their cat.
Personally, I feed my cat both dry and wet canned food.

> How many times do you feed a cat?

Personally, I feed kitty one small 3oz. can of wet food per day.
She can snack on kibbles the rest of the day as much as she wants.
If it's a larger male cat, they'll obviously want a bit more to eat.

> Where in Chicago area is the best place to buy canned cat food?

Supermarkets.
But if you want a larger variety to choose from, pet stores or
animal feed stores.

> I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

Yes, it seems not just human food is going up in price.
I buy Fancy Feast for kitty and just noticed it had rose
in price from .51 cents to .55 cents.
That's a low-mid-priced wet food for 3oz.

Okay, so she eats good for a full week on about $5. worth of food.

Some of the premium brands can cost .80 - $1.15 per 3oz can.

Sometimes it's just a matter of what you can afford though.
William Graham - 06 May 2008 06:05 GMT
"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message >

I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

Petsmart has pretty high prices for pet chow....I suggest supermarkets, and
look through several of them for your best buys....We generally pay less
than 30 cents a can, (at Winco) but places like Safeway charge over 50 cents
a can, so you have to shop around. We buy 5 lb. bags of dry food, so the
cats don't get tired of any one flavor too fast....They like to steal it, so
we just leave the bag on the kitchen floor, where they tear into it in the
middle of the night....:^)
dgk - 06 May 2008 13:26 GMT
>[A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
>all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
>"sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

There is a difference in quality in pet foods, and generally, as in
life, you get what you pay for. While debates florish, my cats have
smaller and less stinky poops using Wellness or one of the many
premium brands than Friskees or other crap. My three cats all like Pro
Plan Salmon and Rice; especially the really finicky one (Espy) who is
my favorite, so that's what they get.

They split a 3 oz can in the morning and a 6 oz can in the evening.
Plus I leave out some dry Pro Plan Salmon and Rice (yes, it comes both
wet and dry), and some Royal Canin #26, which Espy ikes.

I can't imagine why anything jumped from 37 to 69 but that is not
normal. Pricing mistake I would think. Small can do have a much higher
unit cost than larger cans though.
Grandpa Chuck - 06 May 2008 19:55 GMT
>>[A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
>>all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>normal. Pricing mistake I would think. Small can do have a much higher
>unit cost than larger cans though.

Our vet says that cats and dog fed only canned foods have a much
higher rate of dental problems.
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Upscale - 06 May 2008 13:38 GMT
"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
> I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

First, you're going to have to find out what your cat will eat. Some cats
are very picky, like my cat. She will *only* eat kibble. I've tried all
sorts of canned stuff, it was a waste of money. For awhile I was buying Iams
eight pound bags of kibble, but eventually I switched to the twenty pound
bags available at Petsmart. It meant almost a 50% savings by buying in bulk.
I give my 12 pound kitty approximately one cup every evening, which
approximates the amount suggested on the bag for a cat of her size. If she
runs out of kibble before that, it's guaranteed that she will let me know
her food tray is empty.
Sherry - 06 May 2008 17:54 GMT
I am in the Chicago area and I usually get the best price by
purchasing a 32 can box of canned food at Target.  My two former
strays share a can (they like the stuff that is "in gravy" - each gets
a dish with a half can plus a few tablespoons of water) in the morning
and then I free feed dry food, which is always available.

> [A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
> all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.
Newbie - 06 May 2008 20:07 GMT
: I am in the Chicago area and I usually get the best price by
: purchasing a 32 can box of canned food at Target.  My two former
: strays share a can (they like the stuff that is "in gravy" - each gets
: a dish with a half can plus a few tablespoons of water)

Thanks, and neat trick. Good way to make them drink some water. I
suppose it is easier to do this with gravy than with "pate" type food.
William Graham - 06 May 2008 20:22 GMT
> : I am in the Chicago area and I usually get the best price by
> : purchasing a 32 can box of canned food at Target.  My two former
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks, and neat trick. Good way to make them drink some water. I
> suppose it is easier to do this with gravy than with "pate" type food.

I mix a little hot water in almost all the canned foods I feed my
cats.....It is usually cold in the morning when I first open the can, and
the hot water warms it up a bit, and makes a little, "gravy" for them to
enjoy......
Upscale - 06 May 2008 20:30 GMT
"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
> Thanks, and neat trick. Good way to make them drink some water. I
> suppose it is easier to do this with gravy than with "pate" type food.

I wouldn't really look at it as "making them drink some water". Cat's can
and should regulate their own water intake and you should have on hand at
all times a bowl of fresh water. I bought and use a self regulating water
bowl that holds approximate three quarts of water. I replace all the water
in it about twice a week making sure to clean out the scraps of kibble bits
that my kitty transfers from her food bowl to the water bowl.

Here are the water/feed bowls that I use.
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2751255
Grandpa Chuck - 06 May 2008 19:53 GMT
>[A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
>all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
>"sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

We currently have two grown cats. A spayed female and a neutered male.
They are both nearly ten years old. We have NEVER allowed them
outside. Partially because we live on a very busy four lane street,
but also it has been proven they live longer if they do not go
outside.

We have always used nothing but dry food. Right now we are using
Purina Cat Chow for indoor cats, but in the past we have used Science
Diet and Euchanuba. Other than price we see no difference and neither
do the cats.

We have three large cat pans in the basement and there is a swinging
cat door for them to go through to get down there. We use a multiple
cat clumping litter and it works very well.  

My personal feeling is that anyone that lets their cats run outside
doesn't really care about them. There are far too many feral cats
carrying all kinds of diseases and many of them want to fight and will
do irreparable damage to tame cats. There are also tray dogs, coyotes,
raccoons, owls, hawks and other wild animals that view a loose cat as
prey. We also have three dogs and they do not go out without us being
with them. I am sure if you ask the vet he/she will tell you that cats
that are allowed to run have a life expectancy of only about 50% of
those who are not.

Good luck to you and your new found pet.
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William Graham - 06 May 2008 20:30 GMT
"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message >

My personal feeling is that anyone that lets their cats run outside
> doesn't really care about them.

Your personal feeling is wrong. There are many cat lovers who, like myself,
let their cats run free. We care about our cats as much as anyone does. My
personal feeling is that there are too many people in this world who make
too many uninformed evaluations of other people based not on personal
knowledge, but on personal bias. You can make judgments about me only after
you have spent a lifetime walking in my shoes........If you were a farmer,
would you keep all your sheep in your living room? They would be safe from
the coyotes there, and live longer.
Grandpa Chuck - 07 May 2008 04:29 GMT
I just knew I was going to be flamed for what I said, but it is what I
believe as does our veterinarian.

>"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message >
>
>My personal feeling is that anyone that lets their cats run outside
>> doesn't really care about them.
>
>Your personal feeling is wrong.

And who gave you permission to say my personal feelings are wrong?
They may not agree with yours, but I have as much right to my views as
you do. Also here in Cedar Rapids we have a leash law that pertains to
cats as much as it does to dogs. If a cat runs loose and animal
control sees it and catches it they take to the animal control
shelter. There it will cost you over seventy dollars per day. They
will keep it a week and then put it up for adoption. If it is not
adopted for a week it is put down...

> There are many cat lovers who, like myself,
>let their cats run free.

I know there are. Does that make right? Do you like song birds? Do you
have any idea how many are killed by cats

> We care about our cats as much as anyone does. My
>personal feeling is that there are too many people in this world who make
>too many uninformed evaluations of other people based not on personal
>knowledge, but on personal bias.

Ask your veterinarian what he/she thinks about cats being allowed to
roam free.

> You can make judgments about me only after
>you have spent a lifetime walking in my shoes.

I am not the one that will make that judgment here. Animal Control
officers will if they find the cat. Do you not have any predators in
your area that will take a cat? How about traffic on your street? We
live on a busy four lane street with a 35mph speed limit. Care to
guess how many cats I have seen dead in the street?

>......If you were a farmer,
>would you keep all your sheep in your living room? They would be safe from
>the coyotes there, and live longer.

LOL
Sheep are livestock raised for wool and meat. Cats that are pets are
not. Farm cats that live in the barns are outdoor cats and help with
rodent control.
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Other = 133

William Graham - 07 May 2008 20:29 GMT
>I just knew I was going to be flamed for what I said, but it is what I
> believe as does our veterinarian.

I have absolutely no objection to what you believe. Nor do I to anything
your vet believes. My objection is to your absolute statement that assumes
that others do not love their pets as do you, simply because they don't
treat them as you do. IOW, you are not only willing to believe that what you
do is the only right thing to do, but that all others should do the same,
regardless of their history or circumstances......You don't have enough
imagination to realize that there might be other people in this world that
do not live on your street, and have your cats, and don't have to treat them
as you do yours. You are the kind of people who would make laws forcing
everyone else to live as you do. - I call people who think like this,
"liberals", and it is my sworn duty to call them on almost everything they
say. Their thought processes are the antithesis of freedom. Their endpoint
is a padded cell for everyone, to keep everyone, "safe". Their belief is
that the endpoint of life is to live forever, regardless of the quality of
life. An extra year or two justifies 80 years of misery to them. - Which is
OK......For them. But I only object to them forcing their lifestyle on me. -
I don't believe that the purpose of life is to exist for as long as
possible, even if it's in misery. I would rather laugh for 5 minutes, than
be miserable for a hundred years, and all I ask of you is that you give me
(and my pets) that privilege.
Grandpa Chuck - 08 May 2008 04:21 GMT
>>I just knew I was going to be flamed for what I said, but it is what I
>> believe as does our veterinarian.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>do is the only right thing to do, but that all others should do the same,
>regardless of their history or circumstances.

Yes, if they want their beloved cats to live long and healthy lives.

>.....You don't have enough
>imagination to realize that there might be other people in this world that
>do not live on your street, and have your cats, and don't have to treat them
>as you do yours. You are the kind of people who would make laws forcing
>everyone else to live as you do.

You could not be more wrong in that statement if you tried. I believe
everyone has a right to live as they want so long as their life
choices do not harm others.

> - I call people who think like this,
>"liberals", and it is my sworn duty to call them on almost everything they
>say.

I am very proud to call myself a liberal if you go by the dictionary
definition of liberal. You can thank the Christian Fundamentalists and
the two-bit hack actor who was our president for eight long years for
that.

>Their thought processes are the antithesis of freedom.

Quite the opposite is true. I believe very strongly in our
Constitution and Bill of Rights which Bush, Cheney and Rove have
attempted to gut.

> Their endpoint
>is a padded cell for everyone, to keep everyone, "safe". Their belief is
>that the endpoint of life is to live forever, regardless of the quality of
>life. An extra year or two justifies 80 years of misery to them. - Which is
>OK......For them.

That is utter bullshit!!!

> But I only object to them forcing their lifestyle on me.

I would not presume to do anything of the kind. Try walking a mile or
two in my shoes. I failed to mention last night that there is also a
pretty high fine for allowing a dog or cat to run loose. Want to know
why? Because the majority of  citizen demanded it due to all the
damage done peoples property, to wildlife and to each other.

> -
>I don't believe that the purpose of life is to exist for as long as
>possible, even if it's in misery.

"Misery?"
I lived in Hell for a number of years trying to find peace in a
bottle. I realized that I had lost all self-respect and for me to
continue would be to die. I made a U-turn and found a life filled with
peace, serenity and joy.

Back to cats: Have you ever seen a cat after it has been attacked by
another cat? I have. It is not a pretty site. Our cats are very happy
and love to frolic and play. My Siamese cat lived 22 years. He went
blind when he was 8 years old. How long would he have survived if we
had let him outside?  Our calico lived 18 years.

>I would rather laugh for 5 minutes, than
>be miserable for a hundred years,

I agree. I laugh many times every single day. So what's your point?

> and all I ask of you is that you give me
>(and my pets) that privilege.

Your pets do not have any choice at all in the matter except what you
impose on them.

Tell me please. Do you think this conversation is going to change your
opinion or mine? I don't. How much satisfaction have you gotten by
insulting me and attempting to put me down? I expect none whatever.

Live long and prosper.
May the force be with you.
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On May 6, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4072.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 136

William Graham - 08 May 2008 21:41 GMT
>>>I just knew I was going to be flamed for what I said, but it is what I
>>> believe as does our veterinarian.
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
> Live long and prosper.
> May the force be with you.

In that case, don't say that I don't love my cats as much as you love
yours.....You can't possibly know that.
Grandpa Chuck - 09 May 2008 02:54 GMT
<snipped for space>

>> Your pets do not have any choice at all in the matter except what you
>> impose on them.
>>
>> Tell me please. Do you think this conversation is going to change your
>> opinion or mine? I don't. How much satisfaction have you gotten by
>> insulting me and attempting to put me down? I expect none whatever.

>In that case, don't say that I don't love my cats as much as you love
>yours.....You can't possibly know that.

You are right, I can't. However I can tell you some people here have
been charged with animal cruelty for allowing their cats or dogs to
run free. I assume you also know the life expectancy of cats that
allowed to roam is half that of cats that are strictly house cats. You
do have them all spayed or neutered, don't you? I just don't know how
you can claim to love  your cats and then let them roam outside where
they may be injured or killed by predators or traffic and where they
are much more apt to contract very serious diseases. But then you go
ahead and blithely allow your cats to run free outside killing song
birds, squirrels, etc.

May the force be with you.
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United Kingdom = 176
Other = 136

William Graham - 09 May 2008 03:44 GMT
> <snipped for space>
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> ahead and blithely allow your cats to run free outside killing song
> birds, squirrels, etc.

There are many reasons, all of which I have enumerated several times on this
forum. Dogs here are not allowed to run free, but there is no such law with
cats. I live on the edge of town, with a huge Christmas tree farm behind my
property. I have five cats. I got none of them as kittens....They were all
outside cats that just wandered in from somewhere else, or who were given to
me by others who could not keep them for various reasons. I picked one up in
a Burger King parking lot, where he was living on French fries and onion
rings and anything else that people threw at him. None of my cats were
raised as "indoor" cats, and it would be impossible for me to keep five
indoor cats in my present circumstances. They have cat doors that lead both
to the front and the back. I live on a dead end street, and they are just as
safe in the front as in the back. I also feed birds, squirrels and raccoons,
as well as an occasional possum. The cats get along well with these animals,
although they do occasionally catch a bird. But the number of birds I feed
every year more than makes up for the two or three a year that my cats
manage to catch. i.e.: The birds are way ahead. I live near a river, and
there are some birds that are big enough to be a danger to my cats. The
cats, although free to go wherever they please, seldom leave the property.
Only one was feral, and now that he is fixed, he never goes anywhere
anymore. Two of my cats are gregarious enough to visit other houses on the
block, and all the neighbors know them and watch out for them. Several of
the dogs on the block occasionally get free, or are allowed to run free
while their owners are mowing their lawns, etc, but they too get along well
with my cats. One of my cats, in fact, came from a neighbor across the
street who has two dogs. She couldn't stand the dogs, so she moved in with
my wife and myself. But even she, occasionally goes back to her old house to
visit. Two of my cats wait by the mailbox after the mail is delivered in
order to visit with the neighbors when they come to pick up their mail. (The
mail boxes are across the street from us)
It's true that our cats are not as safe as they would be were they trapped
indoors all the time. But they are nearly as safe, and with my schedule, it
would be impossible for me to keep them inside 100% of the time. As it is,
they take up a lot of my time (and my wife's time) taking care of them. We
have a roving vet check them all out periodically, and one of them cost me
over $800 to have a hairball removed from her stomach earlier this year.
Grandpa Chuck - 09 May 2008 18:32 GMT
>There are many reasons, all of which I have enumerated several times on this
>forum. Dogs here are not allowed to run free, but there is no such law with
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>have a roving vet check them all out periodically, and one of them cost me
>over $800 to have a hairball removed from her stomach earlier this year.

There is no doubt you have the ideal environment for you, your wife
and the kitties. Allow me to envy you a bit for living on a dead end
street. The cars and trucks that go past our house number in the
thousands every single day

(DAMNED KEYBOARD JUST DID ONE OF ITS CAPS LOCK THINGIES THAT WON"T
ALLOW ME TO USE MOST PUNCTUATION MARKS
THE ALL CAPS IS NOT INTENTIONAL AND NOT MEANT TO BE SHOUTING
IT WILL FIX ITSELF PRETTY SOON)
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I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On May 6, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4072.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 136

AMUN - 10 May 2008 22:11 GMT
Aw geeeez.

Will somebody finally refer to the CAT KILLER thread !
Those 300 cats sure as heck would have been better off had they been running
around outside.

Rather than being kept INDOORS in a freezer.

>>There are many reasons, all of which I have enumerated several times on
>>this
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> THE ALL CAPS IS NOT INTENTIONAL AND NOT MEANT TO BE SHOUTING
> IT WILL FIX ITSELF PRETTY SOON)
Matilda - 07 May 2008 02:47 GMT
> [A very sweet stray or runaway cat has adopted us and we, ignorant of
> all cat issues, are in panic. That's why I have a few posts each with a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.

If the price jump in cat food is something that is of concern to you - when
it comes to having children - think long and hard!
cshenk - 07 May 2008 03:28 GMT
>> I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
>> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
>> "sale" prices, so comparison is apples to apples.
>
> If the price jump in cat food is something that is of concern to you -
> when it comes to having children - think long and hard!

Grin, I'm with ya!  WOW.  Kids never were cheap but gosh it's changed!
Meantime I have 4 kids.  One is 14 with brown hair and loves DS2 games, one
is 2YO and a 45lb fellow who looks like a tan beagle and barks for food at
6pm on the dot if I'm not in the kitchen, and one is 12 lbs and white and
meows alot for food.

Oh, missed one.  He's 55yo and gray and barks or meows for food on a regular
basis ;-)

            Carol
Nicolaas Hawkins - 07 May 2008 09:26 GMT
>>> I was shocked by price jump at my nearby Petsmart. A small can of a
>>> particular brand cost 37 cents one day and then jumped to 69, both
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>              Carol

Hi, Carol!  

Remember me from the FidoNet cooking echo, or as N771C?

Good lord!  Is your girl 14 already (and is she still starvilating
occasionally :-))?  My, how tempus doth fugit - and some!

Are you still doing the navy thing?  Last I heard was when you were doing
a tour of duty in Japan as a Senior CPO.

Reply privately if you wish - my E-Mail address is good.

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cshenk - 07 May 2008 20:35 GMT
"Nicolaas Hawkins" wrote
cshenk wrote in

>> Grin, I'm with ya!  WOW.  Kids never were cheap but gosh it's changed!
>> Meantime I have 4 kids.  One is 14 with brown hair and loves DS2 games,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Remember me from the FidoNet cooking echo, or as N771C?

Hey!  We miss you there!  Still alive and kicking!

> Good lord!  Is your girl 14 already (and is she still starvilating
> occasionally :-))?  My, how tempus doth fugit - and some!

Oh yes!  She's taller than me too <happy grumble>.

> Are you still doing the navy thing?  Last I heard was when you were doing
> a tour of duty in Japan as a Senior CPO.

Yup, came back at last in October this past year.  On my last year before
retirement now.  Now that we are back, I have pets again.  2 from the local
rescue center.  1 Dog who had heartworms (we knew and no one else was going
to adopt him it seems) and a cat who spent 18 months trying to find a home
(we were her first applicant).
  xxcarol
Rene S. - 08 May 2008 16:39 GMT
I don't think anyone addressed the OP's question of how often to feed
canned food. Generally, twice a day, about 12 hours apart is best. If
you are an hour or two off, it's not a big deal.
William Graham - 08 May 2008 21:50 GMT
>I don't think anyone addressed the OP's question of how often to feed
> canned food. Generally, twice a day, about 12 hours apart is best. If
> you are an hour or two off, it's not a big deal.

My cats let me know by migrating to the kitchen floor and waiting.....And
yes.....It happens about twice a day.....
Upscale - 08 May 2008 22:01 GMT
"William Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> wrote in message
> My cats let me know by migrating to the kitchen floor and waiting.....And
> yes.....It happens about twice a day.....

My cat is more insidious than that. She starts yowling when her food bowl is
*almost* empty.
Ivor Jones - 09 May 2008 08:38 GMT
In news:625ee$4823698b$cef88bc5$24223@TEKSAVVY.COM,
Upscale <upscale@teksavvy.com> typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
: "William Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> wrote in message
: > My cats let me know by migrating to the kitchen floor and
: > waiting.....And yes.....It happens about twice a day.....
:
: My cat is more insidious than that. She starts yowling when her food
: bowl is *almost* empty.

My Missy is worse than that. She telepathically *knows* when anyone in the
house even *thinks* of going to the kitchen to make a cup of coffee or
whatever and is waiting by her food bowl when you arrive..! However many
times a day that may be.

Oh, she never *finishes* what's in there, she eats half of it (wet from
pouches usually) and then lets the rest go dry and inedible, then
complains as though nobody ever feeds her..!

Ivor
Nicolaas Hawkins - 09 May 2008 10:25 GMT
> In news:625ee$4823698b$cef88bc5$24223@TEKSAVVY.COM,
> Upscale <upscale@teksavvy.com> typed, for some strange, unexplained
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> pouches usually) and then lets the rest go dry and inedible, then
> complains as though nobody ever feeds her..!

So feed her less at a time.  Not exactly rocket science.

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AMUN - 10 May 2008 22:15 GMT
>> In news:625ee$4823698b$cef88bc5$24223@TEKSAVVY.COM,
>> Upscale <upscale@teksavvy.com> typed, for some strange, unexplained
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>
> So feed her less at a time.  Not exactly rocket science.

This is the reason God invented Kibble.
Ivor Jones - 11 May 2008 00:35 GMT
In news:g0539i$pdo$1@aioe.org,
AMUN <spamblocker@dumbaswisconsincows.net> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: > On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:38:53 +0100, Ivor Jones

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: >> My Missy is worse than that. She telepathically *knows* when
: >> anyone in the
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:
: This is the reason God invented Kibble.

True, but it's not wise to feed too much kibble to cats that are known to
have urinary problems. Missy has had cystitis a couple of times and as
she's not getting any younger (she's 14 this year) I don't like giving her
too much.

Ivor
AMUN - 11 May 2008 01:05 GMT
> In news:g0539i$pdo$1@aioe.org,
> AMUN <spamblocker@dumbaswisconsincows.net> typed, for some strange,
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>
> Ivor

I'm not sure where you got the info on a tie-in with kibble and urinary
problems.
But you do have to make sure they have plenty of fresh water available as
well.
We leave several 4 quart plastic (old ice cream) containers full of water at
various locations around the house, so they never have to go far for a sip.
We also dump, rinse, and refill them with fresh water every day.

We have always just left out bowl(s) of kibble for the cats that get
refilled as soon as half is gone.
The cats regulate their own food intake, and when they know it's always
going to be there they never gorge themselves, but nibble at it several
times a day.
This also allows several cats to use one dish of food, without any blood
being shed.

Never had any overweight problems other than the normal fattening up every
winter, but as soon as spring hits they lose the weight, and are lean all
summer long.
And actually go out an hunt most of their own food when the weather is nice,
so the kibble lasts forever..
Grandpa Chuck - 09 May 2008 02:56 GMT
>>I don't think anyone addressed the OP's question of how often to feed
>> canned food. Generally, twice a day, about 12 hours apart is best. If
>> you are an hour or two off, it's not a big deal.
>
>My cats let me know by migrating to the kitchen floor and waiting.....And
>yes.....It happens about twice a day.....

Ours eat from a feeder whenever they like. Of course we do not feed
canned food to our dogs or cats.
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William Graham - 09 May 2008 03:47 GMT
>>>I don't think anyone addressed the OP's question of how often to feed
>>> canned food. Generally, twice a day, about 12 hours apart is best. If
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> Ours eat from a feeder whenever they like. Of course we do not feed
> canned food to our dogs or cats.

Mine get an infinite supply of water and kibbles, but they also get canned
food and milk whenever they make it a point to specifically ask for
it....:^)

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