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Cats peeing on basement floor against the stair riser

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Grandpa Chuck - 10 Mar 2008 04:03 GMT
Hello all. This is my first time here.

We have two cats; a spayed female about 9 years old and a 10 year old
neutered male. We have our litter pans in the basement and both of
them are pretty good about using them so long as we clean them
regularly. We use Tidy Cat Multiple Clumping litter and two oversized
pans.

For a long time one or both have been peeing where the bottom stair
riser meets the basement floor and wall. We have never been able to
catch one of them doing it so we don't know if it's just one or both.
We have had them to the vet's office and both were pronounced healthy.
All the vet suggested was buying some of the expensive urine odor
removers and/or cat repellents, which we already own.

The last thing I tried was thoroughly cleaning the area with a citrus
cleaner and then soaking an old towel in the solution and laying it
across the area. Someone had suggested to me to cover the area once it
is clean with newspaper. They said most cats will not urinate on
newspaper. Well, ours will.

I have considered thoroughly scrubbing the riser, wall and floor where
this is happening and then once it is dry painting it with Kiltz
Paint, but have no idea if this will help.

By the way neither of the cats objects to using the same pan as the
one so long as they are cleaned on a regular basis.

I would appreciate any constructive suggestions so long as they aren't
the kind that say something like, "Give your cats away." They are a
part of our family and sleep on our bed along with our three dogs most
nights.

Thank you.
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Matthew - 10 Mar 2008 05:24 GMT
> Hello all. This is my first time here.

Welcome we are glad to help

> We have two cats; a spayed female about 9 years old and a 10 year old
> neutered male. We have our litter pans in the basement and both of
> them are pretty good about using them so long as we clean them
> regularly. We use Tidy Cat Multiple Clumping litter and two oversized
> pans.

try using a litter maid self cleaning box

in the pans  use some baking powder in the bottom it helps hide smells

> For a long time one or both have been peeing where the bottom stair
> riser meets the basement floor and wall. We have never been able to
> catch one of them doing it so we don't know if it's just one or both.
> We have had them to the vet's office and both were pronounced healthy.
> All the vet suggested was buying some of the expensive urine odor
> removers and/or cat repellents, which we already own.

so I am assuming that they checked them for UTI or uninry tract infections.
They do this by collect urine samples and blood work  if they did not do
this than they are not full checked out yet

beside ammonia and bleach try urine gone or  nature miracle

> The last thing I tried was thoroughly cleaning the area with a citrus
> cleaner and then soaking an old towel in the solution and laying it
> across the area. Someone had suggested to me to cover the area once it
> is clean with newspaper. They said most cats will not urinate on
> newspaper. Well, ours will.

citrus cleaner will not work

You friend was way wrong .  All cats will pee on newpaper when you are
toilet traiing a kitten you use newspaper they remember as they get older

> I have considered thoroughly scrubbing the riser, wall and floor where
> this is happening and then once it is dry painting it with Kiltz
> Paint, but have no idea if this will help.

you are going to take ammonia and bleach and scrub and soak the concrete
than if you are lucky that the urine has not soaked thru the concrete  you
are going to have to seal the concrete  if it has soaked in you are going to
have to cover it with more concrete or rip it out and than seal it again

Personally have a professional come in and try to clean it first

They do make a concrete cleaner you can get at any chemical shop

> By the way neither of the cats objects to using the same pan as the
> one so long as they are cleaned on a regular basis.

add another pan maybe try some different litter brands

you can also install a feliway dispenser down there it helps with cats that
have inappropriate behavior

> I would appreciate any constructive suggestions so long as they aren't
> the kind that say something like, "Give your cats away." They are a
> part of our family and sleep on our bed along with our three dogs most
> nights.

No one descent will do that here but thank you for not being like the
a@@hole that come here with problems like your  that threaten to do that if
they can't find a cure

Good luck ask any other questions  we will gladly answer if we can

> Thank you.
William Graham - 10 Mar 2008 06:41 GMT
> Hello all. This is my first time here.
>
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>
> Thank you.
I would buy one of these large cookie sheet pans that they sell in auto
supply stores to put on your garage floor to keep grease and oil drippings
from staining the concrete.....If you can teach your cats to use anything
that's on that, then you won't have any trouble getting the smell out, since
these things are metal and easy to clean. In general, put nasty,
unattractive, bad smelling things where you don't want your cats to go, and
nice, good smelling things where you do want them to go. Try different kitty
litter products, until you find one they like and will use, and reward them
when they do what you like......
Dan Espen - 10 Mar 2008 15:09 GMT
> Hello all. This is my first time here.
>
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> is clean with newspaper. They said most cats will not urinate on
> newspaper. Well, ours will.

Try putting the litter box closer to where they are peeing.

It's better them using the paper, at least you can pick that up
and throw it out.  A sheet of plastic under the paper might
help stop the smell getting into the floor.

Keeping cleaning and persist.

Good luck.
.._.. - 10 Mar 2008 18:33 GMT
I might try putting another (new) litter pan right where they go and see
what happens. (You can probably also tell how many of them are doing that
then, as there will be one, or two clumps.)  The rule is about 1.5 pans
(round up) per cat more or less, so you might need a "pee pan" and "poo pan"
for each cat.

I have a 9 year old female that is very picky about her litter box area and
getting harrassed while going. (Three other cats means sometimes someone
else is there too, that upsets her.)  And she will then pee in an open
corner or on the stair landing.  My response is to clean the area throughly,
then place an additional dry food dish there.  She won't go where there is
food.

Is the location unsuitable for a permenent box?  An extra box is certainly
better than unrestricted pee all over the stairs.

> Hello all. This is my first time here.
>
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>
> Thank you.

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