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[OT: cross-posting because it's important] Warning -- postcard virus
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MaryL - 04 Feb 2008 14:01 GMT Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but this is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple groups.
I received a message today warning about a virus distributed when someone opens a "postcard" that supposedly was sent by a friend. I just checked this out on snopes.com. The virus is real, and it's destructive.
The subject line varies and does NOT always the word postcard. Examples provided by snopes include: "You've received a Hallmark E-Card," "You've received a postcard from a family member," "Colleague sent you a postcard from egreetings.com," "School friend sent you an ecard from postcards.org," "Birthday e-card," etc.
Many of the malicious messages imitate messages from legitimate sites, but the link will actually point to servers containing malware. The messages may also appear to come from friends and relatives you recognize because the names have been "harvested."
Snopes recommends (a recommendation that many computer sites say should be standard) that we *never* click on links contained within e-card notification e-mails. Instead, go directly to the web site of the card company, find the card pickup page within that site, and enter the ID code that was included in the e-mail. If the message was a fake, you simply won't get a card -- and that's much better than getting a computer virus.
Note: I extracted most of this from snopes, which is the source I rely on most often for checking out these warnings. Many/most of the warnings are false, but this one is correct. If you want to read about it for yourself, go to www.snopes.com, and type "postcard virus" into the search box. For obvious reasons, I am not simply including the link to the site this time.
MaryL
ray - 04 Feb 2008 17:08 GMT > Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but this > is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple groups. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > MaryL Why is it important? I have not had a computer virus since I went 100% Linux about four years ago.
Jerry Avins - 04 Feb 2008 19:44 GMT >> Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but this >> is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple groups. ...
> Why is it important? I have not had a computer virus since I went 100% > Linux about four years ago. Good for you! (Are you bragging?) It's important for people using Windows.
Jerry
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Cheryl Isaak - 04 Feb 2008 20:16 GMT On 2/4/08 2:44 PM, in article cf2dnUXFFvSk9jranZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@rcn.net,
>>> Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but this >>> is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple groups. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jerry Those of us with Macs are reasonably safe ;) Brain fully engaged helps too.
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kilikini - 04 Feb 2008 20:37 GMT > On 2/4/08 2:44 PM, in article cf2dnUXFFvSk9jranZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@rcn.net, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > C I go for the Brain Fully Engaged as well.
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cybercat - 04 Feb 2008 21:00 GMT > I go for the Brain Fully Engaged as well. You say that like it's so easy. Show off.
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mlbriggs - 04 Feb 2008 22:14 GMT >> On 2/4/08 2:44 PM, in article cf2dnUXFFvSk9jranZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@rcn.net, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > kili We haven't seen a Kilikini post in a long time. How are you doing? Best wishes. MLB
kilikini - 05 Feb 2008 01:11 GMT >>> On 2/4/08 2:44 PM, in article cf2dnUXFFvSk9jranZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@rcn.net, >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > We haven't seen a Kilikini post in a long time. How are you doing? Best > wishes. MLB Thanks! I don't get much computer time these days. Things are going.......okay. It's a rough road, but I'm still traveling. :~)
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mlbriggs - 05 Feb 2008 01:20 GMT >>>> On 2/4/08 2:44 PM, in article >>>> cf2dnUXFFvSk9jranZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@rcn.net, "Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > kili We are sending major purrs and best wishes for you as you travel that road. MLB
ray - 04 Feb 2008 21:19 GMT >>> Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but >>> this is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jerry And there would be much better places for them to learn of it.
Yes, I am bragging.
Jerry Avins - 04 Feb 2008 21:53 GMT > And there would be much better places for them to learn of it. To learn what?
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William Graham - 04 Feb 2008 23:00 GMT Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
That's just a part of engineering. Engineering is also figuring out what went wrong when an accident happens, and understanding how to prevent it from happening again.
ray - 04 Feb 2008 23:23 GMT >> And there would be much better places for them to learn of it. > > To learn what? > > Jerry about potentially harmful malware for MS systems and how to prevent it. With MAC and Linux, there is nothing to learn or worry about.
dgk - 05 Feb 2008 14:07 GMT >>> And there would be much better places for them to learn of it. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >about potentially harmful malware for MS systems and how to prevent it. >With MAC and Linux, there is nothing to learn or worry about. Yup, I tried Linux. Red Hat a few years back and Ubuntu a year ago. Every time something didn't work I went on a newsgroup where I'd be told "oh, you should be using Kubuntu" or "use Pan, not xxxx", or just type "ee -x/ 27-3444 /usr/some sh.t".
Then there are countless utility programs, all written by different 15 year olds that operate in totally different ways.
Look, I'm a geek. I'm a programmer and, like most of us programmers, I'm tech support for my extended family and friends. There are plenty of problems with Windows, but nothing like the torrent of calls (bittorrent of calls) that I'd be getting with Linux.
One of my brothers has a Mac, a newish one. he has as much trouble as my windows family members. There's something weird that Macs do when you plug in a Sansa which can cause it to wipe out everything on the Sansa. Something about how they handle USB that is odd. I got a tech support call about that one. He was able to fix it on XP.
All OSes have some problems. All programs above "Hello World" have bugs.
Chris Malcolm - 05 Feb 2008 23:53 GMT In alt.support.diabetes dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
> Look, I'm a geek. I'm a programmer and, like most of us programmers, > I'm tech support for my extended family and friends. There are plenty > of problems with Windows, but nothing like the torrent of calls > (bittorrent of calls) that I'd be getting with Linux. Two of my friends install and maintain computer systems for local people for a living. Within the last year ago both of them switched from Microsoft to Kubuntu because they said the support overheads were much less, enabled them to handle a larger client base.
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dgk - 06 Feb 2008 13:13 GMT >In alt.support.diabetes dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >from Microsoft to Kubuntu because they said the support overheads were >much less, enabled them to handle a larger client base. Whatever. I don't find it so.
Rick - 06 Feb 2008 15:26 GMT > In alt.support.diabetes dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > from Microsoft to Kubuntu because they said the support overheads were > much less, enabled them to handle a larger client base. I like Gentoo my self but, I do not use it very much. :)
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ray - 06 Feb 2008 16:22 GMT >> In alt.support.diabetes dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > I like Gentoo my self but, I do not use it very much. :) I run Gentoo on my mini-itx box and Ubuntu on four other home computers - frankly I prefer gnome to kde - and use xfce or enlightenment when resources are tight. I also admin five Ubuntu and four RHEL computers at the local library. Basically, I go over there one or two times a month for an hour or two to do updates - beyond that, they run.
ray - 06 Feb 2008 16:19 GMT >>>> And there would be much better places for them to learn of it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > problems with Windows, but nothing like the torrent of calls (bittorrent > of calls) that I'd be getting with Linux. Maybe you've had difficulty setting it up properly. I've set up nine of eleven public access computers using Linux at the local library. Zero difficulties and the patrons transitioned very easily with no instruction.
> One of my brothers has a Mac, a newish one. he has as much trouble as my > windows family members. There's something weird that Macs do when you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > All OSes have some problems. All programs above "Hello World" have bugs. Absolutely. And generally, the Open Source bugs are fixed orders of magnitude faster than close source ones.
Upscale - 06 Feb 2008 21:03 GMT "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> Maybe you've had difficulty setting it up properly. I've set up nine of > eleven public access computers using Linux at the local library. Zero > difficulties and the patrons transitioned very easily with no instruction. I have to question how much you can use Linux as an example in that instance. Public access computers are set up with limited functionality and limited access and not put through their paces near as much as any home user would do to a computer.
I for one, like windows. It does what I want it to do, it does it fast and it has the widest array of programs available to it. Sure, I tweak it and take measures to protect the operating system, but so would users of every other operating system if it was as widely used as windows. It's natural that the largest most used operating system would be a prime target for hackers. There isn't an operating system out there that can't be hacked or infected with a virus, doesn't matter which one it is. The eliticism displayed by some people for their operating system is just that, an arrogance without merit. If their operating system held 90% of the market, there would be just as many viri going after it too.
Rick - 07 Feb 2008 01:25 GMT > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message >> Maybe you've had difficulty setting it up properly. I've set up nine of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > arrogance without merit. If their operating system held 90% of the market, > there would be just as many viri going after it too. Correct but and I mean great big but, Linux is not made by M$ and thus is not nearly the target as windows based systems.
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dgk - 07 Feb 2008 13:20 GMT >> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message >>> Maybe you've had difficulty setting it up properly. I've set up nine of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Correct but and I mean great big but, Linux is not made by M$ and thus >is not nearly the target as windows based systems. Is the M$ supposed to mean that it's bad that Microsoft makes money? I'm a programmer. I have no problem with folks making money selling software. No one does my cabinets for free if I give away software. I love how the Linux kiddies are always screaming that software should be free, while living on their parent's money.
Rick - 07 Feb 2008 20:44 GMT >>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message >>>> Maybe you've had difficulty setting it up properly. I've set up nine of [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > love how the Linux kiddies are always screaming that software should > be free, while living on their parent's money. I believe that if you produced a product with the same quality control as MS you probably would have a problem either keeping a job or selling your product. Just let me say the number of updates on my XP machine is about 100 times as large as on my Linux machines I would never but a car or any other product made my MS. They do a very poor job of producing their products. I believe that is the reason that their products are attacked. You much less of this with Apple products and even less with Linux products. If I had produced work with the same quality control as MS I would not have had a job very long. Nuf said
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Frank t2 - 07 Feb 2008 22:37 GMT "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> a écrit ...
>>>> And there would be much better places for them to learn of it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > you plug in a Sansa which can cause it to wipe out everything on the > Sansa. I have a Sansa ... It's STUCK in FM Radio !
> Something about how they handle USB that is odd. I got a tech > support call about that one. He was able to fix it on XP. > > All OSes have some problems. All programs above "Hello World" have > bugs. Tiger_Lily - 07 Feb 2008 23:39 GMT > "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> a écrit ... >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I have a Sansa ... It's STUCK in FM Radio ! check for a firmware upgrade for the model of Sansa that you have
we have a couple of the older ones, and one newer, but not the latest ones
dgk - 08 Feb 2008 17:28 GMT >"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> a écrit ... >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >I have a Sansa ... It's STUCK in FM Radio ! I have the 8gb - I think the e280? If you have the same basic model, did you try removing the battery? Four tiny screws, I'm old enough to need glasses to keep an eye on them as I put them down.
I really like it but don't have much to compare it to. I drag mp3s into it and it plays them.
I just wish these things had AM radio. It's nice to be able to listen to baseball at the beach.
philo - 04 Feb 2008 23:13 GMT > > Watch out, guys. This is the real thing! I seldom cross-post, but this > > is important enough that I am sending this warning to multiple groups. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Why is it important? I have not had a computer virus since I went 100% > Linux about four years ago. I use Linux at least part of the time... but my cat still prefers OS/2 <G>
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