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Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 00:59 GMT
I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
chasing it around but neither of them would harm it.

It managed to get under the furniture and so I was able to catch it.  
It had been making a squeaking noise and was about the same size as a
mouse.  But it had no front legs and a sort of bottle nose like a
dolphin.

My first thought was that it was a baby hedgehog but they have front
legs.  Does anyone know what it might be or has anyone had their cats
bring in something similar ?

I took the creature back out and put him under the fence which borders
the woodland.  He was not hurt and soon took off.  I kept my cats
indoors for a while so they would not bring him back.

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Gail - 13 Jan 2008 01:10 GMT
I'm glad you rescued this little creature (whatever it was).
Gail
>I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this creature
>he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were chasing it
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> woodland.  He was not hurt and soon took off.  I kept my cats indoors for
> a while so they would not bring him back.
Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 12:08 GMT
After serious thinking Gail wrote :
> I'm glad you rescued this little creature (whatever it was).
> Gail

The strange thing about it all was that the 3 cats did not harm it in
any way when they had the chance, nor did they play with it.

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Dan Espen - 13 Jan 2008 01:19 GMT
> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
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> mouse.  But it had no front legs and a sort of bottle nose like a
> dolphin.

I think it had front legs, you may not have seen them.
Unless the cats got them.
The funny nose usually indicates a mole.
cindys - 13 Jan 2008 03:06 GMT
>> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
>> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
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> Unless the cats got them.
> The funny nose usually indicates a mole.
--------
I agree. Sometimes, the nose looks like a miniature octopus. These are
called "star-nosed" moles.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 12:09 GMT
cindys explained :

>>> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
>>> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
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> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.

It may have been a baby mole.

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Upscale - 13 Jan 2008 05:06 GMT
"Baldoni" <baldoniXXV@nomail.com> wrote in message
> It managed to get under the furniture and so I was able to catch it.
> It had been making a squeaking noise and was about the same size as a
> mouse.  But it had no front legs and a sort of bottle nose like a
> dolphin.

Sounds like a shrew. Was it one of these?
http://www.borealforest.org/zoo/shrew.htm
studio - 13 Jan 2008 06:51 GMT
> Sounds like a shrew.

Either a shrew or a kangaroo mouse.

Shrews have the bottle nose, but they have front legs.
Kangaroo mice don't have front legs for running, but
typically don't have a bottle nose.

Maybe it's a new breed of kangaroo shrew?
Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 12:06 GMT
studio was thinking very hard :
>> Sounds like a shrew.
>
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>
> Maybe it's a new breed of kangaroo shrew?

I am in the UK I will check if they are a native of this country.

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Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 12:14 GMT
studio formulated the question :
>> Sounds like a shrew.
>
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>
> Maybe it's a new breed of kangaroo shrew?

I think this is the fellow here although he was young.  Maybe I missed
his front legs due to them being small.

http://www.arkive.org/species/ARK/mammals/Sorex_araneus/more_info.html

It mentions that it is illegal to trap these in the UK.

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Baldoni - 13 Jan 2008 12:05 GMT
Upscale was thinking very hard :
> "Baldoni" <baldoniXXV@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> It managed to get under the furniture and so I was able to catch it.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Sounds like a shrew. Was it one of these?
> http://www.borealforest.org/zoo/shrew.htm

It looked like one of those but I think it was a baby.

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Paul M. Cook - 17 Jan 2008 04:33 GMT
> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> the woodland.  He was not hurt and soon took off.  I kept my cats
> indoors for a while so they would not bring him back.

Gopher or a vole.

Paul
William Graham - 17 Jan 2008 19:59 GMT
>> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
>> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
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>
> Paul

Could be a kangaroo rat.....It depends on where he lives......
William Graham - 17 Jan 2008 21:12 GMT
>>> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
>>> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
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>>
> Could be a kangaroo rat.....It depends on where he lives......

See:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kangaroo+rat&btnG=Google+Search
Baldoni - 17 Jan 2008 22:47 GMT
William Graham formulated on Thursday :

>>> I have 3 cats but a few months ago one of them came home with this
>>> creature he had picked up.  He did not kill it but the 3 of them were
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
> Could be a kangaroo rat.....It depends on where he lives......

The UK.

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William Graham - 17 Jan 2008 23:29 GMT
> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
>>>
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>
> The UK.

Oh.....I think Kangaroo rats are native to the American Southwest.....but
who knows? people who like pets might bring one anywhere.......
Baldoni - 18 Jan 2008 08:47 GMT
William Graham formulated on Thursday :
>> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
>>>>
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> Oh.....I think Kangaroo rats are native to the American Southwest.....but who
> knows? people who like pets might bring one anywhere.......

Well we are over run by the American Gray Squirrel which is not a
native of our shores.  I believe the Australians have a problem with
the fox and rabbit.

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William Graham - 18 Jan 2008 08:56 GMT
> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
>>> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
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> of our shores.  I believe the Australians have a problem with the fox and
> rabbit.

And the dingo too, if I recall correctly. But once people started sailing
their ships around the globe, it became inevitable that species would
eventually migrate everywhere. I understand that there are even some wild
leopards in GB. Or maybe that's just a wild tale like our "bigfoot".......
Baldoni - 18 Jan 2008 23:45 GMT
William Graham presented the following explanation :
>> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
>>>> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
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> eventually migrate everywhere. I understand that there are even some wild
> leopards in GB. Or maybe that's just a wild tale like our "bigfoot".......

They seem to think there are big cats out on the moors and countryside.
I think a lot of them are feral cats that were living on industrial
sites like steelworks.

I read tonight that a small steelworks employing 300 people that closed
have 100 semi feral cats that a animal refuge are trying to take care
of.  There was a bigger place that employed about 11,000 at its peak
and a relative of mine said the cats were a hell of a size that lived
there.

There are supposed to be big cats in places like Dartmoor and Bodmin
Moor but a trapper came over from Canada and dismissed the idea in his
opinion as he could find not one shred of evidence, ie scratch marks,
that a big cat was on the loose.

When we approach spring/summer the sightings will increase and anything
from black labradors to old duffel coats will get reported as big cat
sightings.

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William Graham - 19 Jan 2008 00:06 GMT
> William Graham presented the following explanation :
>>> William Graham formulated on Thursday :
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> from black labradors to old duffel coats will get reported as big cat
> sightings.

Yeah.....We have the same problem here. It's impossible to separate the real
sightings from those of the "kooks", so you never know what to believe. Many
years ago, I used to get the GB publication, "New Scientist" through
Stanford University, where I worked. In one issue back in the 70's or early
80's there was an article about two Brits who were stomping out crop circles
as a joke, and getting their midnight art published in the local newspapers.
When the British government announced that they were going to spend 50
thousand Pounds investigating the phenomenon, these guys turned themselves
in, so their government wouldn't waste the money. "We did it" they said. "It
was just a big joke, so don't waste any money investigating it."
   Well, I sure wish I had saved that issue, because I have been hearing
about crop circles ever since. Nobody cares that it was just a hoax
perpetrated by those two Brits, they want to believe in crop circles, and by
God, they are going to believe in them no matter what! Tens of thousands of
acres of corn and wheat fields have been stomped out here in the US since
that article was published, and the cult of people who believe that it was
all done by aliens from outer space is so large that they even have their
own lobbies in congress to get the money appropriated to them to investigate
the phenomenon.  The two British guys who started it all were worried about
their government wasting money on it, and there are tens of thousands of
guys here in the AUS who are gleefully laughing at the prospect of their
government spending millions investigating it. - I guess that pretty well
illustrates the difference between the way British subjects and Americans
think.....

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