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Cat Forum / General Topics / June 2007Drinking your own menstrual blood-Will it make you sick?
http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html Some people are gonna think this is gross. Fine. But I think it's a legit question and I would like an answer. Is it likely to make you sick to drink your own menstrual blood? I mean, theoretically since it came from your own body, it should be 'safe.' But does anyone KNOW? Does it contain waste products? I thought it was just blood and some other mucus/vaginal fluids. I've heard that drinking too much raw blood will upset your stomach. I mean, lots of us have TASTED our menstrual flow (or am I alone there?), but . . . how much would be too much? Just FYI, this is meant to be worked into a ritual/sacred act. I don't really think of my period as being 'gross' at all, and would like to incorporate it more into my spirit work. Thanks for bearing with me on a potentially squeamish topic! yes it could make you sick. if you do that, there's something wrong. > http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks for bearing with me on a potentially squeamish topic! if you'd like to incorperate it more into your spiritual path, use a few drops of the blood instead of water if making homemade incense. > http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks for bearing with me on a potentially squeamish topic! In article <imih735iulm8mgjki9e6464b3g9i3k2rok@4ax.com>, Samantha Pierce-Harder took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"... > http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks for bearing with me on a potentially squeamish topic! Menstrual fluid is sterile coming out of a body.  Signaturetrippy mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30 sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM NP: "Goldeneye" -- Tina Turner "What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take, and keep moving forward. Get up." -- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa" >Menstrual fluid is sterile coming out of a body. No, it isn't. Blood is very rarely 'sterile'. If someone isn't actually ill, they are highly likely to be carrying *something*. OK, so if you're already carrying it, you're not very likely to be able to infect yourself, but then the bugs that reside in the vagina are not the same as the bugs that reside on the skin or in the mouth. If you really want to ingest blood, I recommend Black Pudding - there are several good suppliers on Scunny Markit. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk Being that the mestral cycle in many cultures is a sacred time were women should be away from anyone is a bit of a clue here. Menstrual cycle or period was at one point a product of the body in the same way urine, and fecal matter are. Once it starts the breakdown process to be evacuated from the body it is now a byproduct and no longer considered viable by our body. At this point it starts to basically die and starts to do like most things that die, it starts to sour or smell, rot just a little. Some will go on and on about how horribly it smells but get a grip there are much worse smells. Any way, for rituals, runes, incense and spiritual work that hurts no one it is ok to use it. I would not suggest eating it though, it is kind of a by product at this point and should be treated as such. > http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks for bearing with me on a potentially squeamish topic! >Any way, for rituals, runes, incense and spiritual work that hurts no one it >is ok to use it. OK, perhaps, but still a load of superstitious bollocks. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk Some would say our very existence is a bunch of superstitious bollocks. Power of the mind can be described by some as magic, spiritual work, what ever, if you don't like it move on quietly without a nasty comment and consider it crap. We all have faith in something even if it is only in ourselves. >>Any way, for rituals, runes, incense and spiritual work that hurts no one >>it >>is ok to use it. > > OK, perhaps, but still a load of superstitious bollocks. >Some would say our very existence is a bunch of superstitious bollocks. Then they'd be idiots. Or philosophers, which is probably worse. >Power of the mind can be described by some as magic, spiritual work, what >ever Power of the mind only exists inside the brain that that mind is in or of. It can't touch anything outside of its boney receptacle. >, if you don't like it move on quietly without a nasty comment and >consider it crap. Bollocks. I'll say what I like to whomsoever I like. If I see superstitious fools deluding themselves, it's my duty to help them out of their delusions. It's good for the bank balance too, to not subscribe to snake-oil merchants. > We all have faith in something even if it is only in >ourselves. I only have faith if there's evidence. Mumbo-jumbo, woo-woo and sky-fairyism have so far failed to provide any. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk I would like to know if you are omnipotent? Are you an authority on reality? If so please scan in your PhD's and whatever papers you so choose to present to the world as proof of your all knowing colossal knowledge. For those souls that have no idea of the world around them of things yet undiscovered, untouched and unknown, they will hide behind the idea that proof is the only way. Just 269 or so years ago electricity was not discovered so much as utilized it always existed but its potential unknown. The witch, the hag the shaman the whatever magic using, herb toting persons of the dark ages of humanity still haunts our very conscience. As they do we find the things we left behind are coming to light as new ways to ease, treat and cure diseases with old methods that were considered bullock beliefs. Example the Chinese acupuncture, surgeries done by the Egyptians, leaches, blood letting, herbs from rainforests the list is long and not worth dragging out. If even science looked at these ideals as junk garbage, refuse or bullocks as you wish to believe, we as a race would still be poking sticks at the mud and unable to thrive beyond even very simple means. So do you believe the earth is flat? If you do not what real evidence do you have that it is not? Have you been to space? Have you seen it for your very self? Evidence comes in many forms and photos can be doctored as well as an idea fed to a people. Energy can not be made nor destroyed, our very body is run by an electrical field and it can be disrupted and so where does that energy go when we die, if it can not be destroyed? "Energy cannot be made or destroyed, but it can change from one form to another. Energy is either potential energy, (stored energy) or kinetic energy, (movement energy)." Please I really would like to know your views. What you argue I register I will not say you are wrong because you have the right as I do to disagree with everything or nothing. =) I like a good debate and I think I have one with you. If you feel up to it. If not I understand it can be a bit exhausting if your point never really sinks into someone's thick bony cranium. =) >>Some would say our very existence is a bunch of superstitious bollocks. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I only have faith if there's evidence. Mumbo-jumbo, woo-woo and > sky-fairyism have so far failed to provide any. >So do you believe the earth is flat? Fuckwit. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk > I like a good debate I'm going to do what Richard Dawkins does - that is, not give your woo-woo any undeserved legitimacy by entering into an unwinnable debate. Unwinnable, because you can always invoke invisible makey-uppy forces, which render all your arguments unfalsifiable, whereas science sticks to facts. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk >> I like a good debate > >I'm going to do what Richard Dawkins does - that is, not give your woo-woo >any undeserved legitimacy by entering into an unwinnable debate. Unwinnable, >because you can always invoke invisible makey-uppy forces, which render all >your arguments unfalsifiable, Concession speech noted..as is lame recycling of a discredited logical positivism. Dawkins says no such thing he says quite the opposite. http://www.visualstatistics.net/East-West/Logical%20Positivism/Logical%20Positiv ism.htm ..this is what Richard Dawkins says on this topic " This remarkably widespread fallacy - many repeat it as a mantra - that science has nothing to say about the question of God's existence implies that science cannot even make probability judgments on the question. The presence or absence of a creative super-intelligence is unequivocally a scientific question, even if it is not yet a decided one. Richard Dawkins. >whereas science sticks to facts. You clearly know very little of the scientific method. Do you imagine hypotheses are sucked out of scientist's thumbs? LOL, You show how very uneducated a bullock you are my friend. Science, all science starts out in somebody's head as an idea, a feeling or a bunch of questions that all add up to a Theory. "Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis." In other words its a type of philosophy philosophy "A study that attempts to discover the fundamental principles of the sciences, the arts, and the world that the sciences and arts deal with; the word philosophy is from the Greek for "love of wisdom." Philosophy has many branches that explore principles of specific areas, such as knowledge (epistemology), reasoning (logic), being in general (metaphysics), beauty (aesthetics), and human conduct (ethics)." All in all what you discount because you haven't gotten all the facts on because you are not a scientist, a philosopher of any leaves you lacking. Your blindness supersedes you to a point were you wish to stomp out other peoples theory's on how the world works? Many have tried that and it has ended in the lose of life because of ignorant and others like yourself ,wanting to stomp out other people, and their ideals. You do not have to give my woo-woo any attention and I would prefer you leave my woo-woo out of this being were I come from that is a slang reference is to a part of the body. =/ Yes and as most of science is an as yet is improvable, unverifiable and inconclusive Theorem. Yes there are allot of things in science that they have supposedly proven and then come back some years later and rewrite. So some could look at science and say hey that's a whole bunch of hokey, I won't and nor will I look at those who believe in magic, philosophy, supernatural phenomena and all that as crazy weird and what not. All in all they as well as you and me are what make the world a whole place a place with differences, colors, smells, cultures and most of all individuals. Individuals that if anything were to happen to them a lifetime of lived experiences, ideas, values, and life are lost and can never be retrieved. All the knowledge in the minds of peoples lost to war, hate, disease and disaster is a treasure lost to countless generations. So you can keep your hate about things you can not or will not even say "hay I don't believe in that but you know whatever makes you happy" and go on with your life instead of passing on hate would not have brought me this far into this. You think it is your job to tell people to not believe what they were raised with or what they have experienced? Then you make yourself no different from those who have persecuted people throughout history. >> I like a good debate > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > all > your arguments unfalsifiable, whereas science sticks to facts. > A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible >explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument >or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis." > >In other words its a type of philosophy Complete non-sequitur. My aren't you a f.cking windbag. Show me some evidence of your superstition's 'truth'. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk >> A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible >>explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Complete non-sequitur. Do you even know what a non sequitur is..or are y7ou simply repeating clever phrases you have picked up like a parrot? The OP goes to the crux of the matter,hypotheses are NOT a product of any scientific logic, but of imagination. Once again you confuse conceptualization with operationalization Even a great mathematical or scientific intellect often associates images with the advanced thoughts passing through their mind. James Watson, the discoverer of the double helix structure of DNA, envisioned a snake eating its own tail as the spark for his realization. Interestingly, this is one of the oldest and most universally distributed pictorial symbols known to mankind. >My aren't you a f.cking windbag. Yo confuse the OP with your own reflection. >Show me some evidence of your superstition's 'truth'. Um.. YOU are making the unsupported assertions here , the onus is on YOU provide evidence for then. Hint:telling lies about Richard Dawkin's position does *not* count as evidence. Where did our little muppet go? SignatureUsenet lits score: GIT-R-DONE! alt.usenet.legends.lamey http://blu05.port5.com AUK Offishal Tinfoil Sombrero award 05/07 #20 Usenet a.shole #6 Lits Slut #9 Cog in the AUK Hate Machine <approved by Lionel> #11 Most posting trolls/hunters/flonkers 2007 #1 Disenfranchised AUK Kookologist. #1 AUK Galactic Killfile Award < we all know how well that works...LOL > Co-inventer of the "Prongtard Yap-Dog Award" <working on one of them specheel AUK awards> http://www.dino-soft.org/microsoft/security/updates/doitBST.html >You think it is your job to tell people to not believe what they >were raised with or what they have experienced? I was raised to believe that the tooth fairy came at night and took teeth from under the pillow. I was also raised as a christian. But I grew up and ditched both fairy tales. Now it's your turn. > Then you make yourself no >different from those who have persecuted people throughout history. Oh here we go. The religious have always been persecuted, conveniently forgetting all the non-believers they have burnt, beheaded, slaughtered and maimed over the centuries. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk >>You think it is your job to tell people to not believe what they >>were raised with or what they have experienced? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and > ditched both fairy tales. Now it's your turn. You decided such things were not for you, great that's good for you. Also as an adult you are supposed to learn to get along with others. I guess that's why you are here you don't have to get along with anyone here. You can try to push peoples buttons just to get a rise. Interesting. I think the problem here though is you were force fed religion, it was cramped down your throat like an ill medicine. All the things children grow up thinking as fun and pure joy was somehow damaged for you. Why do you think children are raised to believe such things? Why do you think children are encouraged to use their imaginations? Do you know what happens to children who are not allowed to do any of these such things? They become unable to totally integrate into the world, I'm not just talking society, they have a very hard time learning to do simple things. Google it. >> Then you make yourself no >>different from those who have persecuted people throughout history. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and > maimed over the centuries. ok and this makes what I said a religious comment? I am talking about all people any group, any race, all of human kind has had those who hurt thru out history there were those who hurt others just because they could. They had an idea of how the world was to work and they made history through those dark acts. I do not think I need to make a list do I. Religion had nothing to do with them, ideas beliefs and many other things not connected to religion brought them on. I am talking about human nature, we as a people do not have to believe everything in front of us, nor do we have to push that belief or non belief onto others. In reality I have friends from every walk of life, I know people who are fanatical about things they believe in and I respect that, as long as they do not push their beliefs onto me or others. I will even take on conversation to learn what makes it tick to understand the person and the ideas better. I have pagan friends that are the nicest people I know. I have friends of just about every major religion on this planet except Mormon. I have an atheist brother that doesn't scoff so hard as you do, nor does he flamboyantly call people names because they ask a question. So all I can say is that you come off very hollow, sad and very bitter about something. Something that is deep and profoundly hurt. But what, you will never tell but it doesn't mater, not here. Only for you and those that love you does it matter. Because as you grow in this world and push out people in your life that do not believe in what you believe, you loose out on a whole world, but right now you don't think that matters or do you? >>>You think it is your job to tell people to not believe what they >>>were raised with or what they have experienced? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >raised to believe such things? Why do you think children are encouraged to >use their imaginations? Which religion encourages children to think? None. They all say 'This is how it is'. >Do you know what happens to children who are not allowed to do any of these >such things? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >to do with them, ideas beliefs and many other things not connected to >religion brought them on. > I am talking about human nature, we as a people do >not have to believe everything in front of us, nor do we have to push that >belief or non belief onto others. No, but religionists can't resist doing so. >In reality I have friends Congratulations. So do I. Are we going to have a 'who's got the most friends' contest? from every walk of life, I know people who are >fanatical about things they believe in and I respect that, as long as they >do not push their beliefs onto me or others. I will even take on >conversation to learn what makes it tick to understand the person and the >ideas better. I have pagan friends that are the nicest people I know. So? That doesn't mean they're not deluded. I have >friends of just about every major religion on this planet except Mormon. I >have an atheist brother that doesn't scoff so hard as you do, nor does he >flamboyantly call people names because they ask a question. Doe she make his own dresses, too? >So all I can say is that you come off very hollow, sad and very bitter about >something. I can assure you I'm one of the happiest people on this planet. In spite of, or maybe even because of, things which could make me very unhappy indeed (which I won't go into, as it's none of your business), and never asked for any help from an invisible imaginary friend. Something that is deep and profoundly hurt. But what, you will >never tell but it doesn't mater, not here. Only for you and those that love >you does it matter. Because as you grow in this world and push out people in >your life that do not believe in what you believe, you loose out on a whole >world, but right now you don't think that matters or do you? You are making stuff up and applying it to me, whom you have never met, and using meaningless phrases ('grow in this world', 'lose out on a whole world'. Is there another world I could grow in? Not unless those astronauts get a f.cking move on and build the moon-base. Lose out what? I'm in the world and very much of it, how can I lose?) I have no 'deep and profound' hurt. I'm happy as the proverbial sand-boy. And, a note - I don't believe in anything without good evidence. Another one - what do you mean 'right now you don't think it matters'? What, I won't get into heaven? Well, apart from the fact that there isn't one, it would be awfully boring what with being full of vicars and sanctimonious gits. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk > Which religion encourages children to think? > None. They all say 'This is how it is'. That makes me laugh that you keep brining the back ground humm of religion into this. As if you are the only person on the planet that is an athiest, agnosticism beleaving person. You are a theoretical, or contemplative athiest that dosen't just have a vew of what they believe but whom believes they should argue it into the grownd. I got that much then. > No, but religionists can't resist doing so. Again I wasent talking about religion but you seem to pull it out of every word as if that is all you can see. As if that is what this conversation is about? It's about nothing at this piont. > So? That doesn't mean they're not deluded. So what if they are? So by that as a deffinition so are you? > Doe she make his own dresses, too? LOL No and he's not a hemaphrodite eather. > You are making stuff up and applying it to me, whom you have never met, > and > using meaningless phrases ('grow in this world', 'lose out on a whole > world'. Is there another world I could grow in? Mostly those were not things applied to you. They were questions asked of you. If it has you stressing I am sorry. This was not meant to be a pissing mach of wits, they were questions seeking a greater knowledge of the person upon which I speak. Not unless those > astronauts get a f.cking move on and build the moon-base. Lose out what? > I'm in the world and very much of it, how can I lose?) > I have no 'deep and profound' hurt. I'm happy as the proverbial sand-boy. LOL I like that thats funny. I think the space station is being worked on a litter faster than the moon base at the moment. > And, a note - I don't believe in anything without good evidence. > Another one - what do you mean 'right now you don't think it matters'? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would be awfully boring what with being full of vicars and sanctimonious > gits. Good That makes for easier thinking on a lot of things. Heaven? Hell? Again what do those things mean for what I asked. Nothing, nothing at all. It was a question but you don't get it so I'm not going to explain it. I went to the link you have pasted here and was wondering if you don't believe in anything then what's up with that? It's a sight about human rights and amnesty and yet your garbling on about not believing in things? >> Which religion encourages children to think? >> None. They all say 'This is how it is'. > >That makes me laugh that you keep brining the back ground humm of religion >into this. As if you are the only person on the planet that is an athiest, >agnosticism beleaving person. That second sentence is sheer nonsense. I am an atheist. I am not an agnostic. Atheism is not a belief; quite the opposite, in fact.. You are a theoretical, or contemplative >athiest that dosen't just have a vew of what they believe but whom believes >they should argue it into the grownd. I have a view, but it's nothing to do with belief. It's acceptance of the evidence. > I got that much then. No, you missed by a country mile. >> No, but religionists can't resist doing so. > >Again I wasent talking about religion but you seem to pull it out of every >word as if that is all you can see. As if that is what this conversation is >about? It's about nothing at this piont. In which case, why don't you shut the f.ck up? >> So? That doesn't mean they're not deluded. > >So what if they are? So by that as a deffinition so are you? If you say so. Not that I can see any logic in that statement. >> Doe she make his own dresses, too? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Mostly those were not things applied to you. They were questions asked of >you. If it has you stressing I am sorry. You'd have to get up a lot earlier in the morning to cause me any stress, sunshine. This was not meant to be a pissing >mach of wits, they were questions seeking a greater knowledge of the person >upon which I speak. Bollocks. > Not unless those >> astronauts get a f.cking move on and build the moon-base. Lose out what? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >believe in anything then what's up with that? It's a sight about human >rights and amnesty and yet your garbling on about not believing in things? And? So? SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk >>You think it is your job to tell people to not believe what they >>were raised with or what they have experienced? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >forgetting all the non-believers they have burnt, beheaded, slaughtered and >maimed over the centuries. You confuse heretics with non-believers. Folk are rarely burned for not believing ,but rather for propagating an alternative belief system to current ruling dogma. From that perspective you are indeed like an Inquisitor-General attempting to persecute those deviating from your outmoded 19th century dogmas. >>> Then you make yourself no >>>different from those who have persecuted people throughout history. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > attempting to persecute those deviating from your outmoded > 19th century dogmas. Yeah that's similar to what I was pointing out I'm glad someone else at least caught what I was talking to myself about. But I was not trying to point anything out about religion simply the fact that were ideas do not mach there is always conflict, why must there be? Why can people not just say ok thats a load of something they find disinteresting and walk off instead of screaming from some high place. Your idea about some obscure things poofed, made, grew, glued or ground into existence is not my view on it wahhhh. I like to know others views but not at the cost that they feel theirs is the utmost and only way. Or were you wording that for me? =) >>>> Then you make yourself no >>>>different from those who have persecuted people throughout history. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >point anything out about religion simply the fact that were ideas do not >mach there is always conflict, why must there be? Yes you were looking for a meeting of minds and a debate. This is not possible with a fanatic. The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not. -- Eric Hoffer, The True Believer (1951 Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both. -- Eric Hoffer (attributed: source unknown) >Why can people not just >say ok thats a load of something they find disinteresting and walk off >instead of screaming from some high place. Well, if someone has not actualized a real identity of their own but simply apes their parents and teachers,if the ideas they regurgitate are challenged it throws them into an identity crisis. -- A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. Take away hatred from some people, and you have men without faith. -- Eric Hoffer, The Passionate State of Mind, aph. 225 (1955), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations The True Believer can never tolerate the possibility of different views finds a pluralistic society most uncongenial. They are happier in monolithic dictatorships. Your idea about some obscure >things poofed, made, grew, glued or ground into existence is not my view on >it wahhhh. I like to know others views but not at the cost that they feel >theirs is the utmost and only way. -- The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self. -- Eric Hoffer, The True Believer (1951) http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/hoffer.htm >Or were you wording that for me? =) Not really but I agree it's rather odd to see someone sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting that they are "scientific". LOL! > Your idea about some obscure >things poofed, made, grew, glued or ground into existence is not my view on >it wahhhh. I like to know others views but not at the cost that they feel >theirs is the utmost and only way. Your 'view' is totally irrelevant. However the world came about, it only came about in one way. 'views' can't alter that. We have plenty of evidence for how things got here, and into the state they are now in. Anything else is makey-uppey fantasy. SignatureJAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom www.amnestynorthlincs.org.uk Samantha Pierce-Harder wrote in the message <imih735iulm8mgjki9e6464b3g9i3k2rok@4ax.com>: > http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002866.html > Some people are gonna think this is gross. Fine. But I think it's a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > there?), but . . . how much would be too much? > [...] Awww! %-& Even without taking into account the possibility of bacterial contamination, I think menstrual blood stinks (I mean, even just after a shower when it begins to flow again) and certainly wouldn't want to drink it. Laura SignatureEmail: Laura@Espezon.org Web: <http://www.Espezon.org/> () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~ghelman/ascii.html /\ Against HTML emails and unreadable attachments
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