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is my cat a calico?

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Matt Ferrari - 04 May 2007 06:36 GMT
He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
Does that third color make him a calico?

(cat newbie)

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William Graham - 04 May 2007 07:01 GMT
> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
> Does that third color make him a calico?
>
> (cat newbie)

I don't know for sure, but I have heard that all calico cats are
females......
Noon Cat Nick - 04 May 2007 07:21 GMT
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Very nearly. About 1 in 10,000 cats is a male calico or tortoise shell
(if I remember properly).

The reason is that callies and torties must have coats of white, black
and orange. Black and orange code on the X-chromosome, but not on the
same X-chromosome. Therefore, to have a callie or tortie, the cat must
have two X-chromosomes, one for black and one for orange. And two
X-chromosomes defines a female.

But 1 out of 3,000 kittens (again, if I correctly remember the stats) is
a male with an extra X-chromosome, i.e., he has two X-chromosomes and
one Y-chromosome. If the two X-chromosomes code black and orange
respectively, the result will be a male calico or tortoise shell.

However, although extremely rare, such cats have no "intrinsic value" to
breeders. The  abnormal chromosomal makeup renders them sterile, or so
I've been told.
.._.. - 04 May 2007 16:10 GMT
>>>He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>>Does that third color make him a calico?
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> breeders. The  abnormal chromosomal makeup renders them sterile, or so
> I've been told.

Generally, yes they are sterile.

I did however encounter a breeding male (awesome looking cat too) calico
male.  There were a couple others there that were the sterile "i am confused
about my sex" type too.

The cat was breeding like a madman and the folks that had him were aware how
rare he is and hoping to get a few more.  That was in the early '90s though,
so he's probably died of old age by now.
Professor - 04 May 2007 19:22 GMT
>> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>> Does that third color make him a calico?
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> I don't know for sure, but I have heard that all calico cats are
> females......

No, calico refers just to the colors, nothing to do with the sex.
William Graham - 04 May 2007 20:34 GMT
>>> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>> Does that third color make him a calico?
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> No, calico refers just to the colors, nothing to do with the sex.

Not true....See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_cats
Ted Davis - 05 May 2007 02:20 GMT
>>> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>> Does that third color make him a calico?
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>No, calico refers just to the colors, nothing to do with the sex.

That would appear to be true, except that you can't get the
red/black/white combination in normal males.  It's part of sex linked
red tabby complex.

BTW, I have three homozygous and one heterozygous red tabbies - two of
the homozygous ones are females (quite rare).  The hetero is red tabby
and white, and his sister is calico.

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Professor - 05 May 2007 04:41 GMT
>>>> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>>> Does that third color make him a calico?
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> the homozygous ones are females (quite rare).  The hetero is red tabby
> and white, and his sister is calico.

I guess I stand corrected.
Ted Davis - 05 May 2007 16:20 GMT
>>>>> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>>>> Does that third color make him a calico?
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>I guess I stand corrected.

Well, I need to correct some of that.  Of course, I have the same
problem now that I had then: trying to type across CJ who has placed
himself between the keyboard and the edge of the table, with his tail
flipping against the keyboard of the other computer.

The males are all heterozygous because they have only one copy of the
trait.  What I was getting at is that one of the males is from a
litter where the queen and tom are both red tabby, as are all the
kittens.

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vjc - 06 May 2007 00:58 GMT
Hi:

My new cat is suppose to be a calico.

Her fur is light black, light brown, and white which is all mixed together
over most of her body.

Her back side is totally light brown.

All four paws are white at the bottom.

She has two white back legs.

Her left leg is striped in light black and grey. (like a tabby)

Her right leg is all light brown.

Her under side is all white.

Her tail is a mix of all the colors, with the last couple inches being
black.

I think she is ugly.  Everyone who sees her, says she is just beautiful.

She is a great pet.
Ted Davis - 06 May 2007 02:32 GMT
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>She is a great pet.

The three ugliest cats I have known were calicos: two were mostly
white and the other was mostly black.  

My current calico is pretty evenly balanced, though with somewhat more
grey/black.  She's a calico tabby - all her large color areas are
stripped, as is her tail.

<http://67.54.246.139:9000/tdavis/cats/03.jan/index.html> shows four
of my fifteen cats: Dandy is the red tabby and white, Maryweather is
the calico tabby, Ozy is a red tabby color point, and Millie is his
apricot long-hair sister.

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Matt Ferrari - 06 May 2007 07:55 GMT
>>Hi:
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> the calico tabby, Ozy is a red tabby color point, and Millie is his
> apricot long-hair sister.

Some cute cats!
vjc - 06 May 2007 19:10 GMT
my boots looks a lot like maryweather.

boots front paws are opposite of maryweather.
Noon Cat Nick - 04 May 2007 07:14 GMT
>He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>Does that third color make him a calico?
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No. Callies and torties are white, black, and orange from top to tail.
Calicos have patches of color. Tortoise shells have the three colors
blended all over. Neither have tabby markings, which yours has.

Of course, I can't discern a patch of brown on any of the limbs from the
photo you've supplied. But I've yet to see a calico with a coat like
your guy has.
Matt Ferrari - 04 May 2007 08:09 GMT
>>He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>>Does that third color make him a calico?
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> photo you've supplied. But I've yet to see a calico with a coat like your
> guy has.

thanks for the info
you can see the brown spot in this picture
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Noon Cat Nick - 04 May 2007 08:17 GMT
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Ah, okay...it's all clear to me now. Thanks.

Calicos have orange, not brown. And the orange patches are distributed
all over.

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Ted Davis - 04 May 2007 13:49 GMT
>He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
>Does that third color make him a calico?
>
>(cat newbie)

Calicos are female: the pattern is the result of a single copy of the
red tabby trait (plus white) in a female - a male would be red tabby
and white.

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Barbara - 04 May 2007 15:06 GMT
Your cat looks like a short hair version of my Miss Kitty.

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> He is all grey and white with one small spot of brown on his leg.
> Does that third color make him a calico?
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> (cat newbie)
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