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Jeff - 17 Mar 2004 15:16 GMT
Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor only
kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both use
when they are near it. However if they are anywhere else in the house, they
find the carpet, side of a couch/chair, just as comfortable to use. I tell
them to stop and they do and if near the scratching post show them that's
where they're supposed to do it, and they do. However, this other habit
continues.

So how do I stop them from doing their scratching wherever they are in the
house? Don't tell me I have to buy numerous scratching posts.
Jeff
MaryL - 17 Mar 2004 16:22 GMT
> Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor only
> kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both use
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> house? Don't tell me I have to buy numerous scratching posts.
> Jeff

You have already answered your own question ...that is, you need to have
several scratching posts.  They should be located in several parts of your
house so that one will always be within easy access of your cats.  They
don't "think" in the same way as we do and probably will not go back to
another part of the house in search of a scratching post.  Make sure that
any vertical posts are tall and sturdy (as your kittens will "grow into"
them -- and a cat may stop using scratching posts if one topples when it is
being used).  It is a good idea to experiment with different types of
scratching surfaces.

MaryL
rpl - 17 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT
>>Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor only
>>kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both use
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>
> MaryL

?
I have 6 cats, the only place they scratch is the (1) scratching post.
Occasionally they dig their claws into the rug and stretch but don't
scratch or pull the weave. Mind, they are also outdoors cats as well
(thank god).

I'd suggest catnip on the scratching post, get it into their minds that
it's *the* place to scratch, and negative reinforcement on other places
(spray bottles, give the cat a noogie, whatever).

pat
MaryL - 17 Mar 2004 18:16 GMT
> >>Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor only
> >>kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both use
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>
> pat

That's fine because it works for you.  However, many cats will only use a
scratching post if it is nearby -- and the OP said "They have a nice
scratching post that they both use when they are near it. However if they
are anywhere else in the house, they find the carpet, side of a couch/chair,
just as comfortable to use."  That was the reason for my response.

MaryL
rpl - 17 Mar 2004 20:06 GMT
> That's fine because it works for you.  However, many cats will only use a
> scratching post if it is nearby -- and the OP said "They have a nice
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>
> MaryL

Oh, I agree, if you have a sofa or carpet that's better than a
scratching post, it can take awhile to break them of the habit.

I don't pander to my pets too much, I suppose. But I consider declawing
as being a measurement of the owner's inability to own a cat or a simple
abuse of power; get a rabbit if that's what you want.

Perhaps buy 3-4 scratching posts, keep them doused in catnip for a while
then gradually put the extra ones away to use as replacements.

pat
MaryL - 17 Mar 2004 23:40 GMT
> > That's fine because it works for you.  However, many cats will only use a
> > scratching post if it is nearby -- and the OP said "They have a nice
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> as being a measurement of the owner's inability to own a cat or a simple
> abuse of power; get a rabbit if that's what you want.

Absolutely!  That wasn't even an issue here.

> Perhaps buy 3-4 scratching posts, keep them doused in catnip for a while
> then gradually put the extra ones away to use as replacements.

I still think it's a good idea to leave several out at all times.  They will
serve as "reminders" in whatever room the kittens happen to be -- and they
will last just as long as if they were in storage and brought out as
replacements.  After all, a cat can only use one scratching post at a time.

MaryL

> pat
Aubz - 19 Mar 2004 02:53 GMT
>> That's fine because it works for you.  However, many cats will only
>> use a scratching post if it is nearby -- and the OP said "They have a
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>
> pat

Although I agree with you wholeheartedly in the main,I must disagree with
the idea that keeping rabbits will save your furniture.My sister kept
rabbits,and they totally chewed and clawed hell out of my mother's (brand
new at the time) leather sofa's,although my house rabbit was no trouble to
the furniture at all.
For a pet which will cause minimal damage to the fixtures & fittings,I'd
have to recommend a goldfish (although even then,have you ever seen the
mess a burst tank can cause?)

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Jumi & Shirley Butler - 17 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT
Hi, and sorry, but Jeff, yes, you have to buy some more scratching
posts! They're cats, not people, and you have to train them NOT to
scratch anywhere but their posts. An easy way to do this is buy one
for each room.

Or if not multiple posts, something else will do as well. Wal-Mart has
a kind of box that for something like $6, my cat loves. It's just
corregated paper that cats love to scratch. It also comes w/catnip
that you can moosh into it.  My cat doesn't respond to catnip at all,
but he went right to the box and began using it.  I have about five of
them all over the place. Also a rope/carpet thing you can hang on a
doorknob, and 4 scratching post.

So, he never scratches on any of my furniture, as he has enough other
stuff.

To reply by mail, remove 'nicks'.

Shirley B.

~Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor
only
~kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both
use
~when they are near it. However if they are anywhere else in the
house, they
~find the carpet, side of a couch/chair, just as comfortable to use. I
tell
~them to stop and they do and if near the scratching post show them
that's
~where they're supposed to do it, and they do. However, this other
habit
~continues.
~
~So how do I stop them from doing their scratching wherever they are
in the
~house? Don't tell me I have to buy numerous scratching posts.
~Jeff
~
~*Connie*~ - 18 Mar 2004 01:35 GMT
Why is it that the posts that say 'don't tell me to so and so'.. that the
answer is usually so and so..

I always recommend people get a scratching post that is taller than their
hip.  Cats use the couch chair because it is a large stable scratching post
that their humans sit on.. which is bonus points in their minds, cause they
are marking the item that they associate with you as theirs.  Cats don't
scratch to sharpen their claws, they scratch to stretch, to clean the
peeling sheaths off their claws (cause their claws peel off very much like
your own fingernails can) to mark their territory and to scent items.  I
keep mine in my livingroom near my furniture.. occasionally someone will
mark my favorite chair, but a strong "no" stops them, and after a full year
of new furniture and five cats, the only marks on this chair came from my
stupidity.. not theirs.

If you refuse to provide the cats what they need, the only other
recommendation for you would be www.softpaws.com  You can usually get them
at your local petstore.. I had to look around here.. there was only one
place that carried them.  With the soft paw on, they can't scratch anything,
and the one guy I felt the need to use them on (cause he was nursing on me
at the time, and even clipped his claws hurt) stopped using them after a
short time and I haven't had to use them since.
> Okay, I'd like to follow the current trend and not have my indoor only
> kittens (2) declawed. They have a nice scratching post that they both use
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> house? Don't tell me I have to buy numerous scratching posts.
> Jeff
Jeff - 18 Mar 2004 15:46 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions. I should have mentioned that the "scratching
post" we have is actually part of a 3 tier cat furniture and there is a
scratching post between the second and third tiers too, all rope. They love
their furniture. I never thought of using catnip on it and will try that
along with some other suggestions mentioned here. Thanks!
Jeff
zuzu22@webtv.net - 18 Mar 2004 16:11 GMT
>I should have mentioned that the
>"scratching post" we have is actually part
>of a 3 tier cat furniture and there is a
>scratching post between the second and
>third tiers too, all rope. They love their
>furniture.

As others have mentioned, providing a scratching surface for the cats in
each room they spend time in is an easy way to save your furniture.
There is a type of post available at Petsmart that would be perfect for
your needs as it fits what your cats like and doesn't take up much
space. Purchasing a few of these posts and putting them in other rooms
would be the best way to solve your problem with the least amount of
effort, and is certainly cheaper and more humane than declawing.

Placement of the posts is important and putting the posts close to the
entryways is usually a good choice as cats like to enter a room and
scratch on something to leave visual and scent markers (they have scent
glands in their paw pads) to let others know they have been there.

You can see a photo of the post by clicking on the following link and
scrolling down to the second photo:
http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/scratch

I have 24 cats and have scratching surfaces in every room in my home. My
furniture remains undamaged and the cats use "their stuff" for
scratching exclusively.

Megan

                                   
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Steve Piper - 19 Mar 2004 15:27 GMT
Hi Jeff,

Something that worked for me with my cat was rubbing clothes I'd worn
against the scratching post; not all cats like catnip but they all want to
mix their scent with yours, as soon as I'd rubbed some t shirts on the posts
my cat started using it and rarely strayed; she does still like to scratch
near the front and rear door sometimes; I think to mark her boundary if
anything, we just bought some mats for wiping your feet on; the course
texture is good for her to scratch and she sees us wipe our feet on it as we
come in so understandably sees it as a good place to claw.

Something to discourage them from scratching the sofa etc. is double sided
tape; stick it wherever they usually scratch, it will take some fluff from
fabric but it will also take some fluff from the cat who will soon learn not
to scratch there, after a couple of weeks remove the tape and in theory the
cat will still refrain from scratching.

Please don't declaw them; would you cut the tips off of your kids fingers
because they left dirty fingermarks on the walls? Of course not, you'd teach
them that was wrong and buy them some paper to fingerpaint on instead or
something, very few cats will continue to claw in the wrong places if you
persevere with showing them alternatives.

Good luck!

Steve

> Thanks for the suggestions. I should have mentioned that the "scratching
> post" we have is actually part of a 3 tier cat furniture and there is a
> scratching post between the second and third tiers too, all rope. They love
> their furniture. I never thought of using catnip on it and will try that
> along with some other suggestions mentioned here. Thanks!
> Jeff
Jeff - 22 Mar 2004 14:51 GMT
Thanks Steve for the additional suggestions. They haven't torn anything up
yet so I'm not worried, just trying to prepare for the worse.
Jeff

> Hi Jeff,
>
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>
> Steve
 
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