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Cat Forum / General Topics / March 2007To someone ... thanks for the suggestion for cat litter boxes
I bought the "Omega Paw" so called 'self cleaning' cat litter box. Actually, 6 of them. They aren't 'self cleaning' but they are far better than anything I've ever tried. I was on this ng explaining how I was sifting the litter through mesh and trying different litters to find something to make our cat box duties easier. We have quite a few kitties. Anyway, someone suggested this litter box that you turn over and the waste goes into a drawer. Well, it works. Even when the poop sticks to the sides or bottom, a rap loosens it and it really does go into a drawer that I pull out and dump. I guess it's the difference between 3 mins / box to about 20 seconds. And the boxes are enclosed so their is no litter on the sides. BUT, I didn't have as good a luck with the regular size. But we have a couple of large cats. I should post a picture of Kody, but he's shy. :-) and if you have a few cats, any litter box would fill up too fast. These ones work better with regular clumping litter rather than the "High Performance" Arm & Hammer that I was totally sold on a few weeks ago. I'm using the Arm & Hammer 'Multicat' now, not the unscented what I should try, I guess. Anyway, thanks again to the person who suggested these litter boxes. And my wife thanks you and the cats. I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it should win an award or something. > I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like > spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it > should win an award or something. I was disappointed with the Omega Paw. I purchased the larger box and used A&H multi-cat clumping litter. The single biggest problem was how the litter would clump into a thick gooey mass in the corners of the box and stay stuck there. Banging on the box, after rolling it, did no good and either did changing brand of liter. Every two days I would have to disassemble the box and scrape the sides free of clumped sticking gooey liter. Too much labor. A shame, considering how many people rave about the box and are completely satisfied with it. Guess it just did not work out for me and my three furries. That was the problem that I worried about. But so far with a bunch of cats, it hasn't happened yet. What kind of food do you use? I would worry about my stool if it were sticky like that. I eat a lot of apples. Do your cats get dry food/ wet/ human? It's none of my business and I won't rag on you if you don't reply. Sorry to hear that the cat box doesn't work for you. >> I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like >> spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > box and are completely satisfied with it. Guess it just did not work > out for me and my three furries. The urine was the problem. I use Royal Canin dry Indoor 27. > The urine was the problem. > > I use Royal Canin dry Indoor 27. How did the urind cause a problem? Did you say you tried the A & H high performance litter? That stuff is really clumping. I couldn't get it off my shoes with a wire brush. When your cats urine made the litter muddy or sticky, were you cleaning the box every day? Thanks again. > I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like > spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it should > win an award or something. I forgot what you wrote by now. What box were you asking about? Kathy >> I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like >> spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it >> should win an award or something. >> > I forgot what you wrote by now. What box were you asking about? > Kathy The Omega Paw litter box that you roll over and it puts the poop in a drawer. Sounds funny. >>>I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like >>>spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The Omega Paw litter box that you roll over and it puts the poop in a > drawer. Sounds funny. Could you explain how it actually works? I checked their website and I don't see how they get the poop to fall into the drawer. I would love to get some sort of automated litter box, but am too skeptical to invest the money. Oh well, I can't delay any longer. If I don't change the litter in my cats box, I think she's going to kill me when I fall asleep tonite. I'm glad you asked. I've been wanting to do that ever since I looked inside and saw for myself. It is really something I would never have thought of. even looking at it, it didn't make sense until I turned it over. Basically there are ... never mind, I'll try to put a drawing up tonight and post the address. Thanks again for asking a question that I should have asked before I bought it and was lucky that the product was good. >>>>I'm kinda surprised no one responded to this. At leat "This sounds like >>>>spam". How many have tried this box? Anybody disappointed? I think it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Oh well, I can't delay any longer. If I don't change the litter in my > cats box, I think she's going to kill me when I fall asleep tonite. We have the Omega Paw box. It's okay, but I really think shoveling it out is easier. It does tip the litter aqnd poop into a drawer (along with stuff that clumps, if you use that klind of litter). Of course, it brings a lot of clean litter along with it and when you tip it back ovver, the poop and the heavy stuff stays in the drawer. But so does the litter that is still "good". It's a pin in the neck to dissassemble and clean. When I ordered it, I didn't get the filter part and had to jump through hoops to get in touch with the company - in Canada. There are reviews of it on Amazon.com - including mine....HTH Kathy [snip] > Could you explain how it actually works? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh well, I can't delay any longer. If I don't change the litter in my > cats box, I think she's going to kill me when I fall asleep tonite. Try this http://cats.4shared.com/ I uploaded a graphic. The sand goes through a grate into a compartment. The poop rolls over the grate and into a drawer. When you tip it back up the sand transfers back to the bottom of the litter pan and the poop stays in the drawer. There shouldn't be any sand in the drawer if you turn the box ... not too fast so the sand has time to filter through the grating. At first I had some sand in the drawer but it takes a fraction of a second to turn it a little slower. Can you let me know if the graphic was viewable. I just signed up for this today because my homepage @ Cox is down. The drawer in the graphic is out to show where it is. It would be closed in actual use. My cat boxes get cleaned twice a day on average now, as opposed to every 3 days or so, if I felt like it. : -) > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Can you let me know if the graphic was viewable. I just signed up for this > today because my homepage @ Cox is down. The page was viewable and it's a decent enough explanation of how it works. I get it now. I'm still not sold though. There's something rewarding about the interest Cat shows in watching me scoop her poop and even more interest when the litter is changed completely. I wonder if she tries to hold it in sometimes in anticipation that I might actually get around to cleaning it. Quite often she is quick to jump in as soon as it is refreshed. Last night, she immediately took a piss and messed up the beautiful litter as soon as it was back in service. >> [snip] >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Last night, she immediately took a piss and messed up the beautiful litter > as soon as it was back in service. If I had one or two cats, I'd be thinking like you. It's nice to read about someone enjoying taking care of their pet. > > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - As I understand it, it's a territorial thing. When you clean the box, of course, they love to watch and love to have it clean, but you have also disturbed their territory, and nothing will do but to jump in and re-arrange the litter their own way and then make their mark to re-establish just who is the boss of the boxx!! --tension > As I understand it, it's a territorial thing. When you clean the box, > of course, they love to watch and love to have it clean, but you > have also disturbed their territory, and nothing will do but to jump > in and re-arrange the litter their own way and then make their > mark to re-establish just who is the boss of the boxx!! That actually makes sense. She also seems to consider my desk her territory as well. She apparently thinks certain items don't belong there and one of her favorite early morning rituals is to knock them to the floor. I haven't seen my letter-opener in months. > --tension >> As I understand it, it's a territorial thing. When you clean the box, >> of course, they love to watch and love to have it clean, but you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> --tension They do love to make room for themselves. And those letter openers are so easy to boss around. They don't even hiss or bite. On Mar 15, 9:14 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote: > >> As I understand it, it's a territorial thing. When you clean the box, > >> of course, they love to watch and love to have it clean, but you [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Secret weapon for the mouse police. --tension > Could you explain how it actually works? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh well, I can't delay any longer. If I don't change the litter in my > cats box, I think she's going to kill me when I fall asleep tonite. For an explanation see the video at http://www.omegapaw.com/RollAwayAd.html. It shows a cutaway view of the sifting process. Thanks for the video reference. I was going to make one myself but this one is fine. http://www.omegapaw.com/RollAwayAd.html On Mar 2, 1:44 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote: > I bought the "Omega Paw" so called 'self cleaning' cat litter box. Actually, > 6 of them. They aren't 'self cleaning' but they are far better than anything > I've ever tried. > I started out a number of years back reading the label and only putting about 2 inches in the box like it said, but after a bit of usage with two boxes and two cats, both of them pretty big, I find that 4 inches deep is much better. I only change the material about once a year, but add fresh to it every other day or so, keeping it at least 4 inches deep and deeper at each end. When the box is attended to daily, it clumps so well that only the clumps have to be removed, and the good litter stays in the box. I have never had a problem with odor when I do this religiously. I have daughters who would tell me if there was any odor <G> I just wish larger boxes were available. The box should be at least 8 inches longer than the cat so it can do its duty further from the ends of the box. and not have to do it right next to the box end. just my thoughts Lee I talked to the guy who invented this today. What a pleasant individual. I really wanted to congratulate him/her on being so inventive. I think the smaller boxes are too small and maybe their should be a size bigger than the large size but I hadn't thought about that. Anyway, I'm going to be cleaning the boxes for the second time today which will take about 10 minutes for 6 boxes and I won't have to sit down or bend over too much which used to hurt this middle aged guy's back. > On Mar 2, 1:44 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > just my thoughts > Lee > On Mar 2, 1:44 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > do this religiously. > I have daughters who would tell me if there was any odor <G> that's quite a revolutionary idea - at least to me. I sometimes add fresh litter before I change it completely, and it sounds like you use a much bigger box than I - I mean Cat - does. I've thought about getting a bigger litter box - after all, she is much bigger now than when I got her. Here's a picture of her shortly after I took her in: http://home.comcast.net/~pdw420/kitty_teva.jpg Not counting her tail, she isn't even as long as my shoe. Here's another where she's hardly bigger than the remote control: http://home.comcast.net/~pdw420/kitty_remote.jpg She probably does deserve a bigger box now - perhaps it would help keep all the litter inside the box. > I just wish larger boxes were available. The box should be at least 8 > inches longer than the cat [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just my thoughts > Lee I have 3 of the larger size and one smaller omega and stopped using them. The clips holding the litter pan together are terrible. They don't hold well. .. litter escapes when the box is rolled. I have had to use cable ties and it still leaves litter on the floor. It's not that sturdy...the plastic is too thin. The omega is difficult to clean. The grate only catches the larger clumps. In no time the litter pan is smelling nasty. The actual area available to the cat is too small even in the larger size. I couldn't even get my girls to take them off my hands. >On Mar 2, 1:44 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >just my thoughts >Lee I agree that they could be made a little better but I have 10 now and none of them have ever leaked. You have to get used to the clips. Turn the box over to see how they work and the sieve has to be inserted completely or it will keep the cover from closing completely. I don't know about cleaning yet. It doesn't look to difficult. It is not me experience at all that the boxes get smelly. One reason I haven't had to clean them is that the grate does a good job. Not perfect. The area is a little small but my cats are doing fine, even the biggest one who weighs over 20 lbs, I think. The only problem I've had so far, 2 weeks, is that I put them the wrong way, so that the hole wasn't easily accesible. These things are a great product. Petco and Petsmart have moneyback guarantees, even on used cat boxes and they both should have the large sizes soon. I know because I called Omega Paw and talked to the owner. This whole litter thing was getting me to the point where I was going to move to another house where I could enclose the backyard in netting. Anybody done that? I've tried everything and spent way too much money on trying to keep them in the backyard. And my neighbor's "I told you so." is starting to piss me off. The cats haven't been outside for 6 months, now. Mostly I need an idea that makes the netting look like it's for some kind of basketball court or trampoline but for the whole backyard. It seems athletic equipment in my neighborhood is cool, but a bunch of rescued cats isn't. >I have 3 of the larger size and one smaller omega and stopped using them. > The clips holding the litter pan together are terrible. They don't hold [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>just my thoughts >>Lee On Mar 13, 4:31 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote: > should have the large sizes soon. I know because I called Omega Paw and > talked to the owner. This whole litter thing was getting me to the point [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > basketball court or trampoline but for the whole backyard. It seems athletic > equipment in my neighborhood is cool, but a bunch of rescued cats isn't. Bless your heart right down to your cotton socks for opening your home to the furry ones. Don't have the answer to the netting issues, but I do remember, I think, that you were inquiring some time ago about materials for flooring in your house where cats were.... If I am right, what did you end up using, I'm curious? --tension > On Mar 13, 4:31 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > --tension We eliminated the hard tile and are waiting to do the painting at the same time as vinyl floors. It depends a little on what we can do with the backyard. We've got a bunch of new cat boxes that are helping. Thanks for remembering. It would be so cool if the cats could go outside and climb a tree without being in danger of the neighbor dogs. There are a bunch of nets around out neighbor hood but for basketball, etc. Big lots has a 10 x 12 enclosure that might work for a little relief, but I'm trying to enclose the back porch. Really, it's my fault we have so many cats. I didn't get one spade who had just had a litter because I didn't realize she could get pregnant so quick and by a male that I thought was too young. So now we have 5 more. Everyone is spayed now, and I won't make that mistake again. The hotel has no vacancies. There really is a point when you have too many to give attention to, no matter how much you feel like they are part of a second family. Thank's for your nice post.
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