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Older cats teaching a kitten

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Monique - 23 Jan 2007 22:58 GMT
Hi,

This morning I saw something that I thought only mother cats of the big
cat families did. I have several cats, and this morning my 3 year old
male brought in a sparrow, and 'gave' it to my 15 week old kitten. I
say 'gave' because he normally eats them, and tells the other older
cats to bugger off when he has one. That in itself was amazing, but
what was more so was my 2 year old male watching over the 15 week old
as she played with the bird, it was alive at the start, though it isn't
now, not sure how it was dispatched. (forgive me if this offends
anyone) - I have never seen cats do this, let alone male ones who
aren't even related.

Is this usual?
William Graham - 24 Jan 2007 04:57 GMT
> Hi,
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> Is this usual?

If he's a neutered male, it must be the female in him coming out.......
Q - 24 Jan 2007 14:25 GMT
> If he's a neutered male, it must be the female in him coming out.......

Oh oh, the feminization of the American male spreads
further?
Monique - 24 Jan 2007 20:24 GMT
> > anyone) - I have never seen cats do this, let alone male ones who
> > aren't even related.
>
> > Is this usual?

If he's a neutered male, it must be the female in him coming out.......

Oh, I dunno about that. Phil, the three year old was most definately a
sexually active male when he was snipped. Boof, the two year old,
didn't know anything about 'girls.' Now, the female cats, show no
inclination to teach the kitten.
William Graham - 24 Jan 2007 23:14 GMT
>> > anyone) - I have never seen cats do this, let alone male ones who
>> > aren't even related.
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> didn't know anything about 'girls.' Now, the female cats, show no
> inclination to teach the kitten.

Well, although none of my cats exhibit the behavior you mention, I have
noticed that the neutered males are more mellow and loving than the neutered
females.....The females seem more independent and distant than the
males......
bob - 25 Jan 2007 02:32 GMT
>>> > anyone) - I have never seen cats do this, let alone male ones who
>>> > aren't even related.
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> neutered females.....The females seem more independent and distant than
> the males......

i'd like to see those neutered females.

bob
Noon Cat Nick - 25 Jan 2007 23:35 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>  

AFAIK, it's not altogether unusual. Many toms have been observed helping
with the rearing of kits. This has certainly included teaching them how
to hunt and kill prey.

When kittens are being schooled in predatory skills, the initial efforts
end up with them killing the animal by accident. It takes a number of
such kills before the kits figure out how they're doing it. Once they
discover that, they can then dispatch their prey at will.
oldhickory - 27 Jan 2007 05:04 GMT
Not unusual at all.  I took my cat with me one weekend to visit my boyfriend
who lived in a large farmhouse with a few other folks and a handful of cats.
While we were there, their cats gave my young one mice to play with and
taught him to mouse.  He kept bringing them to me--all weekend.  I finally
thought I had gotten rid of all the prizes he'd presented to me before I
packed and went home home. I was relieved to be going back to the city.

That night after work I opened my suitcase and found, very neatly pressed
between my red christmas skirt and my lace trimmed blouse,  a very flat
little field mouse. Oh joy, he'd packed one and brought it home.  My
roommate nearly had a heart attack when I scooped it out with a spatula.

Signature

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ride fast, take chances.

>>Hi,
>>
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> kills before the kits figure out how they're doing it. Once they discover
> that, they can then dispatch their prey at will.
Monique - 27 Jan 2007 05:23 GMT
Oh, lovely. Good thing you unpacked straight away :s

> Not unusual at all.  I took my cat with me one weekend to visit my boyfriend
> who lived in a large farmhouse with a few other folks and a handful of cats.
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> > kills before the kits figure out how they're doing it. Once they discover
> > that, they can then dispatch their prey at will.
summerrose34@hotmail.com - 12 Feb 2007 11:10 GMT
> Not unusual at all.  I took my cat with me one weekend to visit my boyfriend
> who lived in a large farmhouse with a few other folks and a handful of cats.
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> ie
> ride fast, take chances.

oldhickory, I just had to chime in and say how funny your mouse
packing story is.

I don't see why a male cat wouldn't like to teach a young kitten about
mousing.  He probably was amusing himself, and has a natural bent for
teaching.  Before you disregard my comment, let me say I have seen
dogs exhibiting similar behavior.

Remind me sometime and I might tell the story or how I taught my cat
to kill mice. -- summerrose
William Graham - 12 Feb 2007 22:48 GMT
<summerrose34@hotmail.com> wrote in message >

Remind me sometime and I might tell the story or how I taught my cat
> to kill mice. -- summerrose

Yeah, but did you teach him how to eat them?

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