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Cats Meow - 27 Dec 2006 23:14 GMT Here's some good causes with a simple mouse click you can feed animals in need. One click feeds a sheltered animal .6 bowls of food. Click daily, there's other good causes there too. They will send you a daily reminder if you want. It's a good way to help and it only takes a second.
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites.woa
~*Connie*~ - 28 Dec 2006 02:17 GMT you can also go to http://pets.care2.com/
> Here's some good causes with a simple mouse click you can feed animals > in need. One click feeds a sheltered animal .6 bowls of food. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- John - 28 Dec 2006 03:50 GMT The Better Business Bureau of Washington state advises that "The Animal Rescue Site" is *NOT* a charitable organization and is NOT a nonprofit organization. They are in business to make money. The BBB recommends that charitable donations should be made directly to organizations you wish to support and NOT to profit making organizations such as "The Animal Rescue Site. "
The above information can be verified at the Better Business Bureau's web site: www.thebbb.org
> Here's some good causes with a simple mouse click you can feed animals > in need. One click feeds a sheltered animal .6 bowls of food. > Click daily, there's other good causes there too. They will send you a > daily reminder if you want. > It's a good way to help and it only takes a second. >and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- ~*Connie*~ - 28 Dec 2006 22:28 GMT Thank you for that, but since I give them no money, I don't mind looking at their ads for a few seconds a day if it means that somewhere a pet is going to get a little bit of food.
> The Better Business Bureau of Washington state advises that > "The Animal Rescue Site" is *NOT* a charitable [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> It's a good way to help and it only takes a second. >>and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Cats Meow - 29 Dec 2006 04:58 GMT All people have to do is click, not donate If they feed animals from my click, that's all I care about.
>The Better Business Bureau of Washington state advises that >"The Animal Rescue Site" is *NOT* a charitable [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> It's a good way to help and it only takes a second. >>and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Fred G. Mackey - 29 Dec 2006 05:23 GMT > All people have to do is click, not donate > If they feed animals from my click, that's all I care about. If it's a scam, it's a scam and your clicks are doing NOTHING more than encouraging SPAM and lining their pockets.
All I know is that a new poster (I know, I'm new too, but I looked back through many posts and didn't find any others from the OP) promoted a website that someone else pointed out was NOT non-profit and had a record with the BBB.
If it looks like spam, walks like spam and smells like spam, it's probably spam and they're probably buying steak for themselves while kicking kittens that get in their way.
SPAMMERs are SCUM!
Fred G. Mackey - 29 Dec 2006 05:24 GMT > All people have to do is click, not donate > If they feed animals from my click, that's all I care about. If it's a scam, it's a scam and your clicks are doing NOTHING more than encouraging SPAM and lining their pockets.
All I know is that a new poster (I know, I'm new too, but I looked back through many posts and didn't find any others from the OP) promoted a website that someone else pointed out was NOT non-profit and had a record with the BBB.
If it looks like spam, walks like spam and smells like spam, it's probably spam and they're probably buying steak for themselves while kicking kittens that get in their way.
SPAMMERs are SCUM!
Tropia - 29 Dec 2006 06:56 GMT It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a worthy cause. I wouldn't jump to your conclusions. I just hope people will click and feed an animal a bowl of food.
>> All people have to do is click, not donate >> If they feed animals from my click, that's all I care about. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >SPAMMERs are SCUM! fred - 29 Dec 2006 16:38 GMT > It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a > worthy cause. > I wouldn't jump to your conclusions. > I just hope people will click and feed an animal a bowl of food. Here's a reality check for you. Most *anything* on the net today is some sort of scam, a money-making scheme for the inventor. Yes, helping feed & care for animals IS a worthy cause, and here is how to do it and ensure 100% your money & efforts go to this worthy work. Contact your local animal control, Humane Society, animal shelters, veterinarian, etc etc. and ask them how you can help. Here's what I do. I go down to the county animal shelter and volunteer my time. There are more jobs at the shelter than there are volunteers. Also, in town, there is a private no-kill cat shelter that I donate money and my time to. The possibilities are endless but do AVOID anything you see on the internet. The scams & schemers seem to grow more each day. Next, we will have the "Nigerian Animal Money Transfer." Can't wait to see that one. Don't laugh, two teenagers in our town posted a sob story on the net, about how they were orphans, lost both their parents in an accident, etc etc. They asked readers to send them one dollar bills in the mail. Don't laugh, they have made a few thousand, and the money is still pouring in. One envelope had a $50 bill in it. The kids use the money to buy dope and computer games.
William Graham - 29 Dec 2006 19:44 GMT >> It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a >> worthy cause. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > had a $50 bill in it. The kids use the money to buy dope > and computer games. You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and I currently feed four cats, a dozen or more raccoons, a possum, and an uncountable number of squirrels and birds.......That way, I know that every cent I spend goes directly into the mouths of those who need it.....(no administrative overhead)
fred - 29 Dec 2006 19:53 GMT >>> It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a >>> worthy cause. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > every cent I spend goes directly into the mouths of those who need > it.....(no administrative overhead) Any reaction/comments from your neighbors?
William Graham - 29 Dec 2006 20:42 GMT >>>> It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a >>>> worthy cause. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Any reaction/comments from your neighbors? No. The one to the North feeds hummingbirds, and they sold me my house, and the feral cat that came with it. The ones to the South keep a dog, which whines day and night.....All of "my" wild animals don't make that much noise. I can't understand people who keep an animal penned up and pay no attention to it.....Better that it dies running free by being eaten by a mountain lion.......
Fred G. Mackey - 30 Dec 2006 07:10 GMT > You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the bottom > of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and I currently > feed four cats, a dozen or more raccoons, a possum, and an uncountable > number of squirrels and birds.......That way, I know that every cent I spend > goes directly into the mouths of those who need it.....(no administrative > overhead) That's well intentioned, but you shouldn't be so willing to feed wild animals.
The raccoons and possums may be cute, but the rats and roaches don't have any idea that the food is not intended for them either (and even if they did, they wouldn't care).
William Graham - 30 Dec 2006 08:13 GMT >> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > any idea that the food is not intended for them either (and even if they > did, they wouldn't care). So? - Rats and roaches need love too.....The possum looks a lot like a rat.....I watched it eating for about 20 minutes the other night....Those are about the weirdest looking animals I've ever seen....This one has white fur, with reddish brown body markings wherever there's no fur.....It's funny that the light doesn't bother it at all, but if I make the slightest sound, it runs immediately.......
Dan Espen - 30 Dec 2006 16:05 GMT >>> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that the light doesn't bother it at all, but if I make the slightest sound, > it runs immediately....... Bear in mind, by feeding wild animals you will cause a population explosion. The number of animals you have to feed will grow without limit. Sooner or later, you will starve a bunch of animals. The longer you persist, the more you will starve.
It's not nice to meddle with mother nature.
No offense intended.
William Graham - 30 Dec 2006 21:57 GMT >>>> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > No offense intended. In that case, feeding any animal would be wrong......I beg to differ with you.....Mankind has been "interfering" with mother nature for over 10,000 years now.....It seems that mother nature has a great deal of trouble taking care of herself, and even more taking care of all of her little furry friends......I wonder which of the many animals I feed you would have me turn out into the snow without food? My four cats? - I don't think so. the possum? - No, I couldn't do that, either, ugly as it is. I acquired my animals mostly because they were abandoned by people......Meggie, because her folks got a dog, B-K because his "owners" left him in a Burger King parking lot, to fend for himself. Junie, because her mistress died, and she had no other place to go, and Smokey, because he got too old and arthritic to hunt anymore. This is a miserable, heartless world, and "mother nature" just hasn't been able to cut it. - At least, not to my satisfaction. - So, I do what I can, in my little part of the world, to make up for it. Don't forget, that elsewhere, human beings are cutting down the rain forests like there was no tomorrow, which is really the case....There will be no tomorrow. At least, I will do what I can in my neck of the woods, until that fateful day arrives......
Na - 30 Dec 2006 22:22 GMT >>>>> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>>> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > really the case....There will be no tomorrow. At least, I will do what I > can in my neck of the woods, until that fateful day arrives...... Oh my, all that doom & gloom. Cheer up, Nancy Pelosi will fix everything up ROTFLMAO!
Dan Espen - 30 Dec 2006 22:56 GMT >>>>> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>>> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > In that case, feeding any animal would be wrong... I don't attach right or wrong to your actions. I'm just pointing out the inevitable consequences as I see it.
William Graham - 30 Dec 2006 23:40 GMT >>>>>> You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>>>> bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > I'm just pointing out the inevitable consequences > as I see it. Sure, but I see different "consequences". This is a screwed up world......blame it on whomever you please, God, or Nature, or human beings....but screwed up, nonetheless. I just do what I can to make my little part of it livable. Take my raccoons, for example. They really don't like the dog kibbles I leave out for them...They would much rather eat their own, "natural" food. but when the going gets rough, and they have to choose between starvation and coming up on my back porch to get some kibbles, then they use me to keep from starving to death. I didn't design this world. All I do is try to make it a little better for a few friends......
Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:45 GMT >>No offense intended. > > In that case, feeding any animal would be wrong......I beg to differ with > you.....Mankind has been "interfering" with mother nature for over 10,000 > years now..... With some serious success it would seem, considering the number of animals that are extinct or endandered.
> It seems that mother nature has a great deal of trouble taking > care of herself, and even more taking care of all of her little furry > friends......I wonder which of the many animals I feed you would have me > turn out into the snow without food? My four cats? - I don't think so. Agreed - I assume your cats are domesticated and would probably suffer if turned out to fend for themselves in the wild. Yeah, cats are tough and they might survive, but having been raised as domesticated animals, it's not really fair.
> the possum? The possum lives in your home and didn't grow up in the wild (even if the "wild" is somewhat urban)?
How far would you take this?
Will you be feeding bears next? Do bears really need any more encouragement to lose their natural fear of humans and become dependent on us for their food?
And are you feeding them well? When I visited the Grand Canyon a couple years back, I read the literature about why not to feed wild animals and there was a heart-breaking story of deer that starved to death because they became so accustomed to being fed by humans that they ate bags of potato chips which blocked their intestines leading to their starvation (because they couldn't digest anything anymore).
William Graham - 31 Dec 2006 21:38 GMT >>>No offense intended. >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > potato chips which blocked their intestines leading to their starvation > (because they couldn't digest anything anymore). I feed 'em......Don't poison 'em......And they all live in my "back yard" which is on the edge of town, and is next to an 80 acre Christmas tree farm.....I haven't seen any bears, but if I did, they would probably raid the dog kibble cache too......I won't turn anything away whose hungry. People tell me the 'coons will kill my cats, but it isn't so....They aren't competing for the same food. One of my cats plays with the baby raccoons......As I say, we humans have destroyed these animal's territories.....It's time we gave something back.......
Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:37 GMT > Bear in mind, by feeding wild animals you will cause a population > explosion. The number of animals you have to feed will grow without limit. I'm reminded of something I think I saw on TV a while back. A couple of ducks found a pool in someone's backyard. What could be cooler than having a couple of ducks making a home in your backyard?
Well, the homeowners started feeding these ducks, and before they knew it, their cement pond was overrun with ducks.
They stopped feeding them and they went away.
More and more, large cities are dealing with pigeon overpopulations and some are even outlawing the feeding of these vermin. A few years ago, I remember walking a few blocks in one city and the sidewalk wasn't even visible because these rats with wings were so thick. A homeless woman was feeding them bread. I had to slow my pace to a crawl so I wouldn't kick them. The scene amused me and I had a smile on my face as I waded through the sea of pigeons. The homeless woman scolded me. "It's not funny", she said.
She was right - it's NOT funny to overfeed wild animals to the point where you cannot even see the sidewalk you are walking on.
There could be a lesson here - after all, how did this homeless woman get so much food that she could support an overpopulation of pigeons downtown?
> Sooner or later, you will starve a bunch of animals. The longer you > persist, the more you will starve. > > It's not nice to meddle with mother nature. > > No offense intended. Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:30 GMT >>>You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that the light doesn't bother it at all, but if I make the slightest sound, > it runs immediately....... Possums do resemble large rats, especially when you don't get a good look at them, but IM(ns)HO, rats and roaches don't need love - they need death - not that I wish them to become extinct, I'm sure they have their place in the food chain, but we are overrun with them as it is. They don't need any help, nor do coons or possums need to become dependent on our assistance.
William Graham - 31 Dec 2006 21:30 GMT >>>>You want to feed an animal? - Get a bowl of food and leave it at the >>>>bottom of the stairs leading to your back yard....that's what I do, and [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > don't need any help, nor do coons or possums need to become dependent on > our assistance. In a perfect world, you might be right. But we are living in a world where human beings have already taken away like 80% of these animals territory, so they no longer really have any place to live.....All I'm doing is making it a little easier for those few who are still left.....When the rest of the possums and raccoons in West Salem are gone, mine will be the only few who are still left......I will be glad to let you come and watch them eat, but it will cost you a fee.........
Fred G. Mackey - 30 Dec 2006 07:02 GMT >>It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a >>worthy cause. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your local animal control, Humane Society, animal shelters, > veterinarian, etc etc. and ask them how you can help. Thank you. There are people and organizations are really trying their best to help and spammers like the OP in this thread only serve to siphon money from them.
> Here's what I do. I go down to the county animal shelter > and volunteer my time. There are more jobs at the shelter [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > had a $50 bill in it. The kids use the money to buy dope > and computer games. I'm reminded of the parents who claimed their kid was dying of cancer a couple of years ago. Of course he wasn't, but it didn't stop hundreds of people from donating lots of money before the fraud was exposed.
Cats Meow - 30 Dec 2006 15:41 GMT I am not a spammer, and I resent that comment, I didn't suggest anyone send any money, only click to feed a bowl of food. You obviously don't get it. I'm trying to help animals, NOT a website or business.
>>>It's not spam, I don't like it either, helping feed animals is a >>>worthy cause. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >couple of years ago. Of course he wasn't, but it didn't stop hundreds >of people from donating lots of money before the fraud was exposed. Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:48 GMT > I am not a spammer, Not only are you a spammer, but you are a top-poster as well and you need to learn to trim posts.
> and I resent that comment, You resemble that comment as well. STOP SPAMMING.
> I didn't suggest anyone > send any money, only click to feed a bowl of food. There's little differnce when your post was designed to generate money for your website.
> You obviously don't > get it. No, I get it just fine. You are a spammer. Spammers are scum/
> I'm trying to help animals, NOT a website or business. Bullshit.
Fred G. Mackey - 30 Dec 2006 06:57 GMT > It's not spam, Sorry, but is is spam.
> I don't like it either, And if it's not spam (In your opinion), why wouldn't you like it?
> helping feed animals is a > worthy cause. Certainly!
> I wouldn't jump to your conclusions. It's not a conclusion. If someone takes a sh.t on my couch, I'm going to recognize it as sh.t. Spam is sh.t and should not be tolerated.
> I just hope people will click and feed an animal a bowl of food. I hope they will help animals BUT NOT SPAMMERS. I would have thought that was obvious from my post.
Help out the spammer who started this thread if you REALLY want to, but don't be fooled - no animal will be helped.
>>>All people have to do is click, not donate >>>If they feed animals from my click, that's all I care about. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Cats Meow - 30 Dec 2006 15:46 GMT You are such an ignorant fool, screw you.
>> It's not spam, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- fred - 30 Dec 2006 16:18 GMT > You are such an ignorant fool, screw you. Sighhhh, another thread deteriorates into name calling...... such is Usenet today.
Maybe Snipe will stop by and add his unique vocabulary to color things further.
Cats Meow - 30 Dec 2006 23:22 GMT You started it by calling me a spammer. I don't want to argue with anybody, just help animals. Peace
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>> You are such an ignorant fool, screw you. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Maybe Snipe will stop by and add his unique vocabulary >to color things further. Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:52 GMT > You started it by calling me a spammer. He didn't call you a spammer, I did. The fact remains that you used this forum for spam, hence you are a spammer.
Cease and desist.
So far, your only "contribution" to this forum has been to promote your website.
Deal with it.
Fred G. Mackey - 31 Dec 2006 07:50 GMT > You are such an ignorant fool, screw you. Why should anyone click on your link with the attitude that you display?
I URGE EVERYONE TO DONATE TO LOCAL CHARITIES THAT YOU CAN CHECK OUT FOR YOURSELVES RATHER THAN ENCOURAGING SPAMMERS.
Fred G. Mackey - 29 Dec 2006 05:19 GMT > The Better Business Bureau of Washington state advises that > "The Animal Rescue Site" is *NOT* a charitable [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Bureau's web site: > www.thebbb.org Not really surprising - it seemed like SPAM to me.
Even if it were not spam, there are PLENTY of charitable organizations which help out animals and you can probably find local ones that you can actually visit and confirm that they are doing good work - and you can even volunteer to help if you cannot provide monetary assistance.
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