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Cat Forum / General Topics / March 2004Feline distemper shots - making cats throw up
Do indoor cats really need annual feline distemper shots? We just got our notice today that both of our cats are due for their annual chekups and FD shots and we don't want them to get the shots this year because in previous years it has made them throw up. Nothing like going around the house picking up cat vomit off the carpet. Our cats don't go outside, and if they do, they're supervised like a hawk, because we have skunks and coyotes nearby...so really it seems like a waste and kind of cruel to make them go through this year after year. Thanks for any info. Dan > Do indoor cats really need annual feline distemper shots? We just got > our notice today that both of our cats are due for their annual [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks for any info. > Dan Hi Dan. If you come in contact with a cat that has distemper, and then come home to your cat with out washing your hands or changing your clothes, then you can give it to your cat. Do they NEED it.. no. although if they go outside, and an infected cat has been by recently.. again they are at risk. have you talked to your vet about the vomiting?? They can often work around that, by either giving your cat a shot, or deciding with you not to do it. Thanks to all for the great advice... We think we will discontinue the shots, at least for another year or two. Cheers, Dan >> Do indoor cats really need annual feline distemper shots? We just got >> our notice today that both of our cats are due for their annual [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >around that, by either giving your cat a shot, or deciding with you not to >do it. > Thanks for any info. Check out the vaccination guidelines of the AAFP: http://www.aafponline.org/pdf/guidelines_vaccine.pdf  SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >Do indoor cats really need annual feline >distemper shots? No, and if your cats are getting so sick from the vaccine it might be wise to discontinue it altogether. The protocol for giving vaccines has changed and now vaccines for rabies and distemper are recommended every *3* years. My vet told me of a study she read that showed the distempet vaccine to still be effective 7 years after it was given. IMO overvaccination is a serious issue and it irks me to no end that vets continue to promote yearly vaccines when the protocols have been changed for a long time now and we are seeing so many vaccine related fibrosarcomas that are killing cats. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > >Do indoor cats really need annual feline > >distemper shots? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Megan Do you have documentation for that? Mine are due for vacs and I hate subjecting them to something they don't necessarily need... Mar -------------------------------- "Did you find the gun?" "Yeah.. it was in Buffy's underwear drawer. She has nice things." "Show me." "Well, I didnt take 'em but there were thongs and regular underpants..." "Show me then gun!" -Andrew and The First -Buffy the Vampire Slayer Mar wrote: >Do you have documentation for that? >Mine are due for vacs and I hate >subjecting them to something they don't >necessarily need... Documentation for what? Please be more specific. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > Mar wrote: > >Do you have documentation for that? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Megan Documentation for this... "The protocol for giving vaccines has changed and now vaccines for rabies and distemper are recommended every *3* years." Or is it just something that your vet knew about and had put into practice? Mar ----------- "Did you find the gun?" "Yeah.. it was in Buffy's underwear drawer. She has nice things." "Show me." "Well, I didnt take 'em but there were thongs and regular underpants..." "Show me then gun!" -Andrew and The First -Buffy the Vampire Slayer >Documentation for this... >"The protocol for giving vaccines has >changed and now vaccines for rabies and >distemper are recommended every *3* >years." Or is it just something that your >vet knew about and had put into practice? Thanks for clarifying. Informed vets have been using the new protocols for awhile now. Unfortunately there are vets that know about them, but don't practice them because they lose money when they don't vaccinate pets yearly. Here is a good overview that also includes the info I was talking about WRT to the distemper shot being effective for as long as 7 years: http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2615 Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray Thanks so much for both the links! Great info... Mar Signature"Did you find the gun?" "Yeah.. it was in Buffy's underwear drawer. She has nice things." "Show me." "Well, I didnt take 'em but there were thongs and regular underpants..." "Show me then gun!" -Andrew and The First -Buffy the Vampire Slayer > >Documentation for this... > >"The protocol for giving vaccines has [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - W.H. Murray I wanted to add a second link, because it is specific about the rabies booster every 3 years, where the other was not, probably because laws vary from state to state regarding required frequency of the rabies vaccine. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/health/vaccination-guidelines.html Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > > >Do indoor cats really need annual feline > > >distemper shots? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Mar Feline Parvovirus Vaccines (a/k/a Distemper, Feline Panleukopenia) are probably good for life. FHV & FCV, 3 years. Duration Of Immunity in Cats Vaccinated with an Inactivated Feline Panleukopenia, Herpesvirus, and Calicivirus Vaccine F.W.Scott,C.Geissinger Feline Practice 25,4,July/August 1997 Duration of immunity,based on antibody titers,was evaluated in a group of specific pathogen free cats vaccinated as kittens with an inactivated triple vaccine (feline panleukopenia,feline herpesvirus and feline calicivirus).Vaccination of 15 kittens at 8 and 12 weeks of age with two doses of this inactivated vaccine resulted in high antibody titers against FPV for at least 6 years.FHV and FCV antibody titers were low positive after vaccination,but gradually declined over 6 years.All vaccinated cats had positive FHV antibody titers for at least 3 years after vaccination,and positive FCV antibody titers for at least 4 years. Negative FHV titers were first determined in some vaccinated cats at 4 years after vaccination,and at 5 years for FCV.All 17 unvaccinated contact control cats had negative antibody titers against the three viruses throughout the 6 year study. The results of this study confirm that vaccination of kittens with an inactivated ,adjuvanted FPV/FHV/FCV vaccine can produce long-lasting antibody titers against these three viruse. While the cats in this study have not been challenged to date,one can safely assume that they would be solidly immune to FPV for at least 6 years after vaccination. Annual revaccination for FPV/FHV/FCV vaccines is routinely recommended by vaccine manufacturers and most veterinarians. Recently some practitioners and some scientists have questioned the need for annual revaccination.(Are we vaccinating too much? JAVMA207:1995 421-425) In our opinion,cats that are properly vaccinated as kittens should be revaccinated with a single dose of triple vaccine at 1 year of age,then revaccinated every 3 years with either a FHV/FCV vaccine or a triple vaccine. Follow-up study 1 1/2 years later: Am J Vet Res 1999 May;60(5):652-8 Long-term immunity in cats vaccinated with an inactivated trivalent vaccine "RESULTS: Control cats remained free of antibodies against FPV, FHV, and FCV and did not have infection before viral challenge. Vaccinated cats had high FPV titers throughout the study and solid protection against virulent FPV 7.5 years after vaccination. Vaccinated cats were seropositive against FHV and FCV for 3 to 4 years after vaccination, with gradually declining titers. Vaccinated cats were protected partially against viral challenge with virulent FHV. Relative efficacy of the vaccine, on the basis of reduction of clinical signs of disease, was 52%. Results were similar after FCV challenge, with relative efficacy of 63%. Vaccination did not prevent local mild infection or shedding of FHV or FCV. CONCLUSIONS: Duration of immunity after vaccination with an inactivated, adjuvanted vaccine was > 7 years. Protection against FPV was better than for FHV and FCV. CLINICAL IMPLICATIONS: Persistence of antibody titers against all 3 viruses for > 3 years supports recommendations that cats may be revaccinated against FPV-FHV-FCV at 3-year intervals." If your State requires vaccination against Rabies, request only Purevax vaccines. These vaccines are manufactured without adjuvants. Adjuvants have been implicated in the development of vaccine-associated-sarcomas (VAS). HTH, Phil |
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